rohrabacher: how about answering that question.does your organization consider any seismic activity as an earthquake? mr. holstein: no. rep. rohrabacher: so what is your definition of an earthquake that gives us hundreds of earthquakes in oklahoma? mr. holstein: congressman, in my testimony, the references i made to the earthquake came from the report that the oklahoma geological survey has issued in the last few days. let me just say -- we did not do any independent investigation. secondly, i want to endorse your suggestion that we gather information about the cost of whatever earthquakes -- i think the insurance industry is a good source of that. rep. rohrabacher: i am a formal journalist as well and i remember a story i covered years ago. when -- we have had oilwell disasters. it doesn't exist anymore -- the water is back to its normal state in california after 1969, when there was a big oil spill. anyway, the oil companies had decided they would pay for major research into the danger of oil wells. i was called in as a reporter

rohrabacher: how about answering that question. does your organization consider any seismic activity as an earthquake? mr. holstein: no. rep. rohrabacher: so what is your definition of an earthquake that gives us hundreds of earthquakes in oklahoma? mr. holstein: congressman, in my testimony the references i made to the earthquake came from the report that the oklahoma geological survey has issued in the last few days. let me just say -- we did not do any independent investigation. secondly, i want to endorse your suggestion that we gather information about the cost of whatever earthquakes -- i think the insurance industry is a good source of that. rep. rohrabacher: i am a formal journalist as well and i remember a story i covered years ago. when -- we have had oilwell disasters. it doesn't exist anymore -- the water is back to its normal state in california after 1969, when there was a big oil spill. anyway the oil companies had decided they would pay for major research into the danger of oil wells. i was called in as a reporter t

meanwhile, some of our own folks on the republican conservative side dana rohrabacher, for example, want to go -- >> host: anyone with the last name paul. >> guest: anyone with the last name paul. and he'll be out there, rand paul will be out there and that'll be a big thing. but if we could talk about the beginning, could i change the subject a little bit? >> host: absolutely. >> guest: the other part of the beginning of the book is, it seems to me, where the strongest part of the brief is, and that is the harms of marijuana. i mean, we summarize and, indeed reprint the entire article from the new england journal of medicine which summarizes the research done at 20, 30 major universities. and the harms are considerable. short term harm attention, focus, memory, long-term harm paranoia schizophrenia, loss of iq, loss of motivation, all sorts of problems. i didn't have this evidence when i was drug czar in '89, '90 and now that evidence is amply available. hans brighter, who's conducted a lot of the research -- professor at northwestern and harvard -- said if i could design a drug maximal

rohrabacher for 30 minutes. mr. rohrabacher: thank you very much mr. chairman. i rise today to draw the attention of the american people and my colleagues to an issue that is rapidly coming to the floor of the house and it is an issue that's coming so rapidly some people might not notice the overwhelming magnitude of this issue. in fact, it is an issue that most people are bored with, they don't like to discuss it, they think it's so complicated they don't pay any attention. unfortunately, the fact that little attention is being paid to this issue may result in major damage to the well being of the american people. what i'm trying to say is, there's legislation that will cause great harm to the american people, our security and to our prosperity, and it is something that was coming to a vote and we could well lose unless the american people mobilize and the people in this hall pay attention to the interests of the american people as a whole and not to make international corporations that have been manipulating this issue. what am i talking about? i'm not talking

rohrabacher, for 30 minutes. mr. rohrabacher: i thank the chairman. mr. chairman let us note in this great hall of freedom that this is the culmination of over 200 years of sacrifice and hard work and commitment by generations of americans who started back in the 1700's to build a country that was based on freedom, liberty and the democratic ideal in which all people's rights are respected and that laws are made by the consent of the governed and that indeed we could have established a government in the federal level which had its areas of authority, but other authority was vested in the states and in the people themselves. this great wondrous experiment of democracy in great danger today from a number of areas. overseas of course we see radical islam on the rise who would like to terrorize the population of western civilization. especially those of us in america. but we also have people who fear forces within our own society. ironically one of the things most of our people fear is that our own government is out of control and that we have a government to

rohrabacher: thank you very much. the question we are discussing is simply whether the veterans administration positions can -- physicians can recommend the use of marijuana or not recommend the use of marijuana to their parents -- to their patients. as republicans, we supposedly believe in the doctor-patient relationship. but apparently some of my colleagues believe that that relationship is not relevant when it comes to v.a. doctors and their patients. the patients who happen to be our nation's great heroes who went off to defense us in -- defend us in war. it is criminal that we send our men and women off to war where their minds and bodies are broken and then deny them the ability to obtain a medical recommendation from a legitimate v.a. doctor upon their return home. why is it that we have faith in the medical qualifications of congress to determine the best medical practices rather than those people who are doctors in the veterans administration? i would submit that perhaps marijuana is a better option for some

chairman rohrabacher. >> thank you very much. i'd like to thank our witnesses. thank you all very much for being with us today. general allen, your last point about large deployments sometimes actually destabilize rather than stabilize the situation. it was very well-taken and i hope that my colleagues understand the significance of that point. and to the degree that you have outlined a strategy that does not require large -- a large deployment of american troops on the ground is something that i think we should all take very seriously, make sure we see how it works. this is a strategy that does work in the long run. let me ask you about letting the -- mobilizing the local forces, which is what you're outlining for us today. you were involved with the anbar province and the efforts there? >> deeply involved, sir. >> okay. so are the sunni tribal forces that enabled you to succeed there, are they currently involved in the struggle against isil? >> anbar remains very contested at this moment. >> that's correct. >> i've met with many of the shiites of anbar. some o

craddick has said, that we so strongly support, and, in fact, i was thinking about it as congressman rohrabacher was speaking, with respect to offshore drilling, and that is that one of the essential challenges of -- for regulators is to simply keep up with the enormous amount of innovation that is going on in the oil and gas industry. and i make no complaint about that innovation. i simply note that it is a highly complex and heavy industrial activity and regulators need to be on their toes. so let me conclude my response to you by saying that if you can imagine the many communities and states where suddenly oil and gas development is occurring where no one alive has ever seen it before, has ever experienced it before, has ever worked in the industry before, you can imagine the challenges to elected officials at the state and local levels in trying to devise appropriate regulatory programs and oversight. and that is why we have such differences from state to state with states like texas having 100 years or more of aggressive and increasingly complex regulation of the industry. but other states