it was roisin�*s, my auntie roisin�*s, 11th birthday.nd then just in the living room there, gerard and rory were just watching tv. and they went in and shot both of them dead. so for you, you're young people, this isn't history. this is something that is affecting you and your generation now. i'm the youngest of the family, and i have watched my family, campaign tirelessly their entire lives forjustice over the murders of gerard and rory. and i believe this legislation is completely cruel and unjust. almost all victims�* groups are against a plan to give a conditional amnesty to suspects who provide information to a new commission. what we're seeing here in terms of the justice system _ is an amnesty for murder. when he was ten, shane laverty walked behind the coffin of his brother robert, a police officer who was murdered by the ira. there's huge ramifications for society ifjustice - is not seen to prevail, i i don't think it would be accepted in england, - wales or scotland and yet in northern ireland, - it's one of those things again

it was my auntie roisin�*s 11th birthday.nd they came in through the front door and told roisin to be quiet inside the kitchen here. and then just in the living room, gerard and rory were just watching tv and they went in and shot both of them dead. so for you, you're young people, this isn't history. this is something that is affecting you and your generation. no, i'm the youngest of the family, and i've watched my family campaign tirelessly their entire lives forjustice over the murders of gerard and rory. and i believe this legislation is completely cruel and unjust. what's your family's goal, as it were? definitely truth. truth would be the main thing. and civil cases and inquests, for notjust our family, but all families. almost all victims groups are against a plan to give a conditional amnesty to suspects who provide information to a new commission. what we are seeing in terms of the justice system - is an amnesty for murder. when he was ten, shane laverty walk behind the coffin of his brother robert, a police officer

i do want to ask you very quickly about the of roisin murphy . you the case of roisin murphy.ry . d do cancellation within the music industry. d do you have anything, anything to say about what's happened to her? >> , it's the story gets >> well, it's the story gets more and more ludicrous. she it seems like although one source says that her label ninja tune are no longer they're not going to drop her, but they're no longer going to promote her album, which is, you know, absolutely absurd. and then rough trade east in london. she had two gigs booked there at the end of the week and they those gigs have been cancelled. why exactly? not clear this is exactly? it's not clear this is happening now . it seems almost happening now. it seems almost daily, but certainly weekly. last week it was alice cooper who got dropped from vampire cosmetics for saying that if a kid identifies as a tree, maybe that's not right . also last that's not right. also last week, carlos santana had to issue or issued an apology for thinking of you're a girl, you're a girl and you're a boy. you're a boy an

that station just taken roisin mu itsy that station just taken roisin mu its off its schedule despiteknow if it's true, but the bbc explanation plausible. they'd come to end of the >> they'd come to the end of the round of promoting her and using her material. and that's why they were moving on to other people. that seems to me plausible. >> but do you believe it, nigel? >> but do you believe it, nigel? >> i'm saying i don't know whether it's true or not. i'm saying the reason they've saying that the reason they've given is a plausible one. >> it's woke privilege. >> it's woke privilege. >> what has to >> here's what the bbc has to say because of course, say about it, because of course, both sides of the argument always on gb news member of always on gb news a member of the complaints team said the bbc complaints team said people will interpret songs with any element of nuance or ambiguity. ambiguity differently i >> -- >> that's 5mm lam >> that's what i said. >> that's what i said. >> that's what i said. >> that's a reach. dan if anything, carol mcgiffin , do anything, carol mcgiffin

that station just taken roisin mu itsy that station just taken roisin mu its off its schedule despiteknow if it's true, but the bbc explanation plausible. they'd come to end of the >> they'd come to the end of the round of promoting her and using her material. and that's why they were moving on to other people. that seems to me plausible. >> but do you believe it, nigel? >> but do you believe it, nigel? >> i'm saying i don't know whether it's true or not. i'm saying the reason they've saying that the reason they've given is a plausible one. >> it's woke privilege. >> it's woke privilege. >> what has to >> here's what the bbc has to say because of course, say about it, because of course, both sides of the argument always on gb news member of always on gb news a member of the complaints team said the bbc complaints team said people will interpret songs with any element of nuance or ambiguity. ambiguity differently i >> -- >> that's 5mm lam >> that's what i said. >> that's what i said. >> that's what i said. >> that's a reach. dan if anything, carol mcgiffin , do anything, carol mcgiffin

i do want to ask you very quickly about the of roisin murphy . you the case of roisin murphy.ry . d do cancellation within the music industry. d do you have anything, anything to say about what's happened to her? >> , it's the story gets >> well, it's the story gets more and more ludicrous. she it seems like although one source says that her label ninja tune are no longer they're not going to drop her, but they're no longer going to promote her album, which is, you know, absolutely absurd. and then rough trade east in london. she had two gigs booked there at the end of the week and they those gigs have been cancelled. why exactly? not clear this is exactly? it's not clear this is happening now . it seems almost happening now. it seems almost daily, but certainly weekly. last week it was alice cooper who got dropped from vampire cosmetics for saying that if a kid identifies as a tree, maybe that's not right . also last that's not right. also last week, carlos santana had to issue or issued an apology for thinking of you're a girl, you're a girl and you're a boy. you're a boy an

the bbc has denied that singer roisin murphy's recent comments on puberty blockers was not the reason posted on facebook that puberty blockers were "desolate," adding that "big pharma was laughing all the way to the bank." the singer later apologised. but, contrary to reports she was removed, the bbc said there was no ban, it was entirely a scheduling issue, and roisin murphy's music remains on rotation. the thing is, it's not the first time an artist has been forced to apologise for her thoughts, in fear of being "cancelled". and it is a wider issue that alarms many in the world of art and publishing. is there, in british and american culture, a rising, left—wing "i—lliberalism" that threatens our freedom of thought and expression? pen america thinks so — which is interesting, because in the united states, they are a major promoter of literature and poetry would most likely define themselves as liberal. they have just written a report called booklash: literary freedom, 0nline 0utrage, and the language of harm. and they say a growing problem with online hate campaigns directed at book

record company that recently cancelled its promo campaign for the album of one of its own artists roisinafter private comments of hers about trans healthcare were leaked online. do you support their decision? what i think about this, thinking about the idea of accountability versus council culture, for me there's an interesting idea of how we hold people accountable —— cancel. we need boundaries, people who are saying unhealthy things, but the idea of accountability, a much more beautiful reflective surface where people can grow and become their own role models bite saying they made mistakes and they are prepared to stand on that —— by saying. situation like this is where we need to look at this and say, how do we hold accountability and also allow there to be a reframing and relearning. allow there to be a reframing and relearninu. . ~ allow there to be a reframing and relearning— relearning. thank you very much indeed. and to play us out we have film of last night's performance and the song "berlin". goodnight. # sorry love i'm running home # i'm a child of sun and the stars i love # o

as roisin murphy trans debate. as roisin murphy appears to change writer's mind. so great.ogy. graham linehan has been absolutely gracious about it and said, thanks very much. appreciate that. could the floodgates open? because there are so many people who are locked into the trans ideology who probably it's very difficult for anybody at this point, isn't it, to back out and say, do you what? i've had say, do you know what? i've had to think and i'm not sure about this difficult for to think and i'm not sure about this to difficult for to think and i'm not sure about this to aboutult for to think and i'm not sure about this to about graham them to say so about graham linehan, who is you is not he's not further than jk rowling not he's further than jk rowling or whatever, isn't he? >> even though they both came from place . from an equally loved place. yeah. and this is quite a complex story , which we probably complex story, which we probably don't go don't have all the time to go into john boyne's history, but apparently he wrote a book. i think he's written novel which th

now, what's wonderful all about, and i'm so happy for roisin murphy, because firstly , roisin murphy,d she made an apology, but she did not retract what she said. she just apologised for offending people, which i think is heartfelt and i'm not actually against. >> but what what made me sad, though, about her apology is she felt the need say that she felt the need to say that she will never speak on this subject again and she will never be part of the public debate again. and thatis of the public debate again. and that is so sad that that's what she into. we it she felt forced into. we saw it with recently, with amanda abbington recently, the come dancing the strictly come dancing contestant who did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over who did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over hery did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans:he same the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans viewsne the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans views .e the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans views . now, thing over her trans views. now, you other

and they came in through the front door and told roisin to be quiet inside the kitchen here.hem dead. so for you, you young people, this isn't history. this is something that is affecting you and your generation now. so, i'm the youngest of the family, and i've watched my family campaign tirelessly their entire lives forjustice over the murders of gerard and rory. and i believe this legislation is completely cruel and unjust. what's your family's goal, as it were? definitely truth. truth would be the main thing. and civil cases and inquests, for notjust our family, but all families. almost all victims groups are against a plan to give a conditional amnesty to suspects who provide information to a new commission. what we are seeing in terms of the justice system - is an amnesty for murder. of his brother robert, a police officer who was murdered by the ira. i looked up to all of my . brothers as semi—heroes, so i put them on a pedestal. he was a good brother. the government says this legislation will help reconciliation. do you think it will? there is huge ramifications for so

now, what's wonderful all about, and i'm so happy for roisin murphy, because firstly , roisin murphy,d she made an apology, but she did not retract what she said. she just apologised for offending people, which i think is heartfelt and i'm not actually against. >> but what what made me sad, though, about her apology is she felt the need say that she felt the need to say that she will never speak on this subject again and she will never be part of the public debate again. and thatis of the public debate again. and that is so sad that that's what she into. we it she felt forced into. we saw it with recently, with amanda abbington recently, the come dancing the strictly come dancing contestant who did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over who did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over hery did the same the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans:he same the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans viewsne the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans views .e the strictly come dancing conte�*over her trans views . now, thing over her trans views. now, you other

headliners kicking things off in this section with the express and the cancellation of the singer roising concerned about children. >> louis yes, according to the express, the bbc shuts down roisin murphy cancellation rumours after singer sparked a trans row. so row is a row of row row. she she spoke out against the globalist elite dogma that that you can trans children and everything is going to be okay. she spoke out against it so but the bbc said well we we're taking her off the air but it has nothing to do with this thing. yeah. >> so it was revealed that she was being taken off air and being replaced with another artist hadn't voiced an artist who hadn't voiced an opinion, outspoken opinion, opinion, an outspoken opinion, but she said, but the bbc have come said no, but it was come out and said no, but it was just we were do that just we were going to do that anyway. reason we anyway. just for some reason we didn't that scheduling until didn't do that scheduling until after trans just after the trans row. it's just pure coincidence and i believe the bbc. when the bbc ever lied? >> w

roisin shunned by bbc roisin murphy shunned by bbc play song with kick turfs lyric.ey played song by a band called dream the lyrics dream nails. one of the lyrics was turfs all day don't was kick turfs all day don't break sweat and the bbc have break a sweat and the bbc have come out and said, no, you just you've got to. it's all about interpreting which interpreting the lyrics, which is there's is it's not dead poets. there's not much ambiguity in the turfs is it's not dead poets. there's notday.:h ambiguity in the turfs is it's not dead poets. there's notday. don't)iguity in the turfs is it's not dead poets. there's notday. don't break in the turfs is it's not dead poets. there's notday. don't break a] the turfs is it's not dead poets. there's notday. don't break a sweat, rfs all day. don't break a sweat, i.e. that's physical activity i.e. that's a physical activity which comes from physically kicking . kicking turfs. >> okay, so and tariffs are women. they're explicitly women and they're explicitly identified by their political beliefs. >> fighting for women's rig

court. complaint against roisin murphy and goes to court . way, the sheer fear that such a law would instil in someone and have a complaint made under this law against you is enough to basically shut people up in ways that should not happen because obviously it stifles debate and it's been said before in respect of these kinds of laws. often the process is the punishment. so the sheer stress and ordeal of going through an investigation or having a complaint made against you, so on, so accused of hate under new law. i mean, a headune under new law. i mean, a headline like that, the vast majority of people want to avoid that kind of thing , even if it that kind of thing, even if it doesn't result in prosecution . i doesn't result in prosecution. i mean, we've seen what's happened to graham linehan, to people like graham linehan, also irish and notably accused of hate. and britain has had the police call to his door. we don't know if that kind of thing that ireland it that happened in ireland and it was few months ago was a case a few months ago

it was my auntie roisin�*s 11th birthday.to be quiet inside the kitchen here. and then just in the living room, gerard and rory were just watching tv and they went in and shot both of them dead. so for you, your young people, this isn't history. this is something that is affecting you and your generation. no, i'm the youngest of the family, and i've watched my family campaign tirelessly their entire lives forjustice over the murders of gerard and rory. and i believe this legislation is completely cruel and unjust. what's your family's goal, as it were? definitely truth. truth would be the main thing. and civil cases and inquests, for notjust ourfamily, but all families. almost all victims groups are against a plan to give a conditional amnesty to suspects who provide information to a new commission. i looked up to all of my brothers as heroes, so i put them on a pedestal. he was a good brother. the government _ he was a good brother. the government says _ he was a good brother. the government says this legislation will help r

court. complaint against roisin murphy and goes to court . that by the way, the sheer fear that such a law would instil in someone and have a complaint made under this law against you is enough to basically shut people up in ways that should not happen because obviously it stifles debate and it's been said before in respect of these kinds of laws. often the process is the punishment. so the sheer stress and ordeal of going through an investigation or having a complaint made against you, so on, so accused of hate under new law. i mean, a headune under new law. i mean, a headline like that, the vast majority of people want to avoid that kind of thing , even if it that kind of thing, even if it doesn't result in prosecution . i doesn't result in prosecution. i mean, we've seen what's happened to graham linehan, to people like graham linehan, also irish and notably accused of hate. and britain has had the police call to his door. we don't know if that kind of thing that ireland it that happened in ireland and it was few months ago was a case a fe

>> all of those people who bought roisin murphy's . i don't bought roisin murphy's.or anybody who doesn't know, she posted something on facebook criticising puberty blockers and expressing concern for protecting vulnerable children . protecting vulnerable children. and then the bbc, there was a controversy around the bbc of them not playing her music and so on. so she's gone to number five in the charts with her solo album and it's her highest rating , her highest placing rating, her highest placing sorry , solo solo piece of music sorry, solo solo piece of music and ad so i'm nominating all of the people who bought it to push back against the scandal and attempt at cancelling her. >> michael, it is a crazy world where a singer makes a post on facebook where they say they're concerned about medication for young children that would stop them pubescent gets cancelled . them pubescent gets cancelled. >> it's an appalling world and it's frightens people to say what they think. it frightens proper, intelligent, calm and courteous debate to right. >> well, look, you are th

>> all of those people who bought roisin murphy's . i don't bought roisin murphy's.or anybody who doesn't know, she posted something on facebook criticising puberty blockers and expressing concern for protecting vulnerable children . protecting vulnerable children. and then the bbc, there was a controversy around the bbc of them not playing her music and so on. so she's gone to number five in the charts with her solo album and it's her highest rating , her highest placing rating, her highest placing sorry , solo solo piece of music sorry, solo solo piece of music and ad so i'm nominating all of the people who bought it to push back against the scandal and attempt at cancelling her. >> michael, it is a crazy world where a singer makes a post on facebook where they say they're concerned about medication for young children that would stop them pubescent gets cancelled . them pubescent gets cancelled. >> it's an appalling world and it's frightens people to say what they think. it frightens proper, intelligent, calm and courteous debate to right. >> well, look, you are th

because if they do look at what's happened to roisin murphy, look at what's happened alice cooper, theyre cancelled immediately. and it's of people like it's because of people like david . david tennant. >> indeed. i mean, that's absolutely true. i mean, david tennant might not believe in cancelling, but fact is that cancelling, but the fact is that once you maintain position once you maintain a position that nobody can have a contrary view , then you create view, then you create the atmosphere in which cancelling becomes norm and that is becomes the norm and that is exactly why so many people in showbiz and so many people from the stage and elsewhere are simply don't want to speak out because there are too many. david are too scared. >> they're too scared . and when >> they're too scared. and when it comes. thank you so much. we will speak next week. but coming up, meeting william up, after meeting prince william earlier treating him earlier today and treating him to a smooch that he could to a smooch that only he could get i'm very excited get away with, i'm very excited to be joined

we've seen it with roisin murphy last week , neo the week before, now week, neo the week before, nowoper , one of the greats, alice cooper, one of the greats, can't state, i think, a very sensible point of view without being cancelled . ed right. being cancelled. ed right. >> i mean, what alice cooper said was simply common sense. why on earth is it controversial to say that six year old children should not be changing their genders? why are we confusing children? so it's not as if he said, you know, i'm against trans people. simply against trans people. he simply said olds should said that six year olds should not doing this. and he not be doing this. and he believes that fad and believes that it's a fad and many believe and know it many people believe and know it is i think it's very is a fad. so i think it's very bad for business for this brand to capitulate to the woke mob and release this statement. i actually think it's a very bad marketing move. and, know, marketing move. and, you know, i think will lose a lot of think they will lose a lot of customers did not say customers be

the brilliant singer roisin murphy was also threatened with career armageddon just a couple of weeks she highlighted her concerns about puberty blockers for children. the ultra woke bbc removed her playlist from their music shows and everyone an and anyone wanted this poor woman cancelled. well it's going the other way . as it's going the other way. as with graham linehan's book sales , her latest album is rocketing up the charts and may be number one by the end of the week. and she performed a sold out gig this week to five star reviews . this week to five star reviews. so the bud light debacle, the politically correct disney movies, flopping at the box office, j.k. rowling's massive new tv deal. mainstream british stars speaking up for basic biology. the woke tide is turning, folks . this is a moment turning, folks. this is a moment to rejoice . in fact, it's such to rejoice. in fact, it's such good news. i'm going to have a custard cream . nice one. there you go . i've got nice one. there you go. i've got to say, this story does take the biscuit . it's a great to be biscuit. it's

. >> look, let's be honest. 99% of the public think that what roisin murphy thinks or said on her private it is my her private facebook, it is my view that there aren't such a thing as trans kids. there's very confused kids that are being pushed into things by parents and teachers and society into something they do not understand and could regret. probably will regret for the rest of their lives . rest of their lives. irreversible. it's irreversible. puberty blockers. so let me just tell you, it's one big agenda. we're seeing hollywood and celebrities, a—list celebrities parading their trans kids around like they're the new sort of fashion accessory. right this is unbelievable for , you know, unbelievable for, you know, trans i'll say less than 1% of the population. yet we're seeing trends everywhere in the media to in adverts in our schools . to in adverts in our schools. it's an agenda that someone born somewhere or organisations are pushing and the poor kids are being so confused and they are being so confused and they are being pressured. it is become a trend to be trans or to support

the brilliant singer roisin murphy was also threatened with career armageddon just a couple of weeks she highlighted her concerns about puberty blockers for children. the ultra woke bbc removed her playlist from their music shows and everyone an and anyone wanted this poor woman cancelled. well it's going the other way . as it's going the other way. as with graham linehan's book sales , her latest album is rocketing up the charts and may be number one by the end of the week. and she performed a sold out gig this week to five star reviews . this week to five star reviews. so the bud light debacle, the politically correct disney movies, flopping at the box office, j.k. rowling's massive new tv deal. mainstream british stars speaking up for basic biology. the woke tide is turning, folks . this is a moment turning, folks. this is a moment to rejoice . in fact, it's such to rejoice. in fact, it's such good news. i'm going to have a custard cream . nice one. there you go . i've got nice one. there you go. i've got to say, this story does take the biscuit . it's a great to be biscuit. it's

we've seen it with roisin murphy last week , neo the week before, now week, neo the week before, nowoper , one of the greats, alice cooper, one of the greats, can't state, i think, a very sensible point of view without being cancelled . ed right. being cancelled. ed right. >> i mean, what alice cooper said was simply common sense. why on earth is it controversial to say that six year old children should not be changing their genders? why are we confusing children? so it's not as if he said, you know, i'm against trans people. simply against trans people. he simply said olds should said that six year olds should not doing this. and he not be doing this. and he believes that fad and believes that it's a fad and many believe and know it many people believe and know it is i think it's very is a fad. so i think it's very bad for business for this brand to capitulate to the woke mob and release this statement. i actually think it's a very bad marketing move. and, know, marketing move. and, you know, i think will lose a lot of think they will lose a lot of customers did not say customers be

because if they do look at what's happened to roisin murphy, look at what's happened alice cooper, theyre cancelled immediately. and it's of people like it's because of people like david . david tennant. >> indeed. i mean, that's absolutely true. i mean, david tennant might not believe in cancelling, but fact is that cancelling, but the fact is that once you maintain position once you maintain a position that nobody can have a contrary view , then you create view, then you create the atmosphere in which cancelling becomes norm and that is becomes the norm and that is exactly why so many people in showbiz and so many people from the stage and elsewhere are simply don't want to speak out because there are too many. david are too scared. >> they're too scared . and when >> they're too scared. and when it comes. thank you so much. we will speak next week. but coming up, meeting william up, after meeting prince william earlier treating him earlier today and treating him to a smooch that he could to a smooch that only he could get i'm very excited get away with, i'm very excited to be joined

. >> look, let's be honest. 99% of the public think that what roisin murphy thinks or said on her private it is my her private facebook, it is my view that there aren't such a thing as trans kids. there's very confused kids that are being pushed into things by parents and teachers and society into something they do not understand and could regret. probably will regret for the rest of their lives . rest of their lives. irreversible. it's irreversible. puberty blockers. so let me just tell you, it's one big agenda. we're seeing hollywood and celebrities, a—list celebrities parading their trans kids around like they're the new sort of fashion accessory. right this is unbelievable for , you know, unbelievable for, you know, trans i'll say less than 1% of the population. yet we're seeing trends everywhere in the media to in adverts in our schools . to in adverts in our schools. it's an agenda that someone born somewhere or organisations are pushing and the poor kids are being so confused and they are being so confused and they are being pressured. it is become a trend to be trans or to support

i mean, we've seen it this week with alice cooper and roisin murphy, the irish singer, both of them allrty blockers. and they have been axed. i mean, it's terrifying . and what it's terrifying. and what happens if you speak out against the kids transitioning ? the cult of kids transitioning? >> they need to make sure that they are educated on this before they are educated on this before they fold and apologise. right. and i think alice cooper did not. but murphy did. jean murphy did indeed. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so they need to get it together because they were right the first time. puberty blockers, which are sold as it's just a pause. just a pause. so your child can figure out 97% of children who go on puberty blockers to gender blockers proceed to cross gender hormones . once they go down this hormones. once they go down this lane, they do not reverse unless a parent rests them away from this thing and seizes back control of their child's life, which is your obligation as a as a parent. 90% of children a normal parent. 90% of children will this. you will grow out of this. if

i mean, we've seen it this week with alice cooper and roisin murphy, the irish singer, both of them allberty blockers. and they have been axed. i mean, it's terrifying . and what it's terrifying. and what happens if you speak out against the kids transitioning ? the cult of kids transitioning? >> they need to make sure that they are educated on this before they are educated on this before they fold and apologise. right. and i think alice cooper did not. but murphy did. jean murphy did indeed. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so they need to get it together because they were right the first time. puberty blockers, which are sold as it's just a pause. just a pause. so your child can figure out 97% of children who go on puberty blockers to gender blockers proceed to cross gender hormones . once they go down this hormones. once they go down this lane, they do not reverse unless a parent rests them away from this thing and seizes back control of their child's life, which is your obligation as a as a parent. 90% of children a normal parent. 90% of children will this. you will grow out of this.