your when in fact she was pretty much the main support, financial support, for her first husband, rolly, by playing in an elegant restaurant, piano and organ and other jobs, and her husband, rolly, was hired by a franchiseee, an early franchisee to manage an early franchise in st. louis park, minnesota, that joan was behind the scenes on, and so you really don't get a sense of how hard joan and her first husband really worked, and also in the movie they say that joan is certain of plot twist that convinces ray to use milk shake machine mix. that's not true. and that's -- >> host: instead of real ice cream. >> guest: it's minutiae but important historically because it turns out -- i found this out -- i still hear from people who are mcdonald's historians so it's that kind of information that is really key and critical, and joan really was so important behind the scenes in the early days of mcdonald's. she wasn't just a trophy wife, a beautiful, much younger wife. she was working the french-fryer with her house who became an early franchisee. >> host: the movie -- she isn't portrayed as m