part of it's also their rolodex. is that something that's become more truer over time or, less to or about the same? the rolodex definitely important. but the rolodex in washington often in particular, is what i focus on in the power of the money. you look at someone like jamie diamond, who is the ceo of jpmorgan chase and a very skillful operator. i talk about him a lot in the book. and one thing i notice that jumped out to me about jamie. there are a couple of things that he's he's really smart about. so number one is when he started ceo, he used to come to dc twice a year and he realized that wasn't enough. he started coming twice month. that's a big use of resources. and the number one value you have in, if you're in the c-suite is the ceo's time and they are choosing to use the ceo's time in that way by bringing him to twice a month and in doing so he can't meet the same people. i mean, you can't come meet the secretary of the treasury every time you get to meet other officials. and so regardless of who wins thi

would be a great service to the incoming trump administration if the biden administration updates its rolodexof contacts and starts establishing munication both ways with the key actors on the ground. >> you identified the biggest concern and that is these camps in the northeast of the country in which they are holding these isis fighters and their families and there is a considerable number of them. the current support from the united states is crucial to that process. when donald trump says we should stay away it is not our fight, that might not be how syria's immediate neighbors view it and some very important allies. can he just walk away from it? >> donald trump himself really once little to do withyria during his first administration. he called it a land of quote desert and death. that was the quote. i am not sure he has spent a lot of time since his first administration trying to redefine how he views syria. but there are other people in his circle who are much more concerned about counterterrorism issues for example and who view a particular syrian kurdish militia called the ypg as a

absolutely right, visa and mastercard, they're as bad as the banks in the terms of sort of the golden rolodexsry challenge. so it's a lot proof money at stake, but they are going to fight hard for that. charles: yeah. the american people are watching. this is the kind of hinge that does unite folks on both sides of the political aisle, particularly apolitical folks. by the way, i know you were big on bitcoin. congratulations, you were absolutely right. we'll talk about that again because i've got a feeling that train keeps going. thanks a lot, my friend. [laughter] >> all right, charles, thanks. charles: by the way, bitcoin, right, let's face it, it had a pretty big boost yesterday. michael saylor on this show, i think when he gave us his target, 13 million. take a listen. did i read somewhere you're saying each bitcoin would be worth the equivalent of $13 million? >> yeah. when you crank in the growth rate which, for me, the base case is 29% a year on average for 2211 years, that gets -- 21 year, that gets you to $13 million a coin in the year 20 the 45. charles: my next guest posted online,

you know, there are times, even though i have a rolodex of people i can reach out to, there are timeseel like i'm all alone. >> still? >> still, yeah. i mean, it's those days, but i still know that, i'm like, "all right, pick up the phone. who can i call?" like, just go through and make a phone call. >> the u.s. olympic committee has said that it has made advances, particularly in the wake of your speaking out, other athletes speaking out. how do you assess the changes that the u.s. olympic committee has made? has the committee gone far enough? what do you want to see happen that hasn't happened? >> there needs to be more. flat out. the abc organizations have done some steps in the right direction to get help and care that us as athletes need, but they're not doing everything they can, and that upsets me. >> what do you want to see them do specifically? >> i want to see them put the athletes first. that's it. nothing else to say. >> and that means providing better mental health care? >> it's everything. the athletes need to be first. >> and you didn't feel that way when you were an ol

. >> everybody is looking through the family rolodex.isions in terms of taxes? >> if you have simple taxes, go to the irs. it's never been easier to file a simple tax return. that could make this a nice, smooth tax season. file for me at irs.gov. if you have a more complicated return, you can finish your taxes all the way by october. so those are a couple of important things. those seem like they're weeks out in the future. >> it's crazy. >> a little charitable donation is a good way to end the year. >> you might have done it along the way. you might have had a museum membership. part of that might be tax deductible. you can think about what you spent your money -- a lot of people at the end of the year give to their religious organizations. i think a lot of places are getting checks today and tomorrow. so don't forget. >> thank you so much. >>> we'll get another check of the weather now from dylan briefly. >> good morning, everyone. we do have some pretty wet weather across new england this morning. that will exit and move east then we

for example, your rolodex right interest, andrew sorken's phone whereby just the people in there, thew text elon musk. he might not know your name. either way -- i'm >> i'm in his phone as jonathan. >> i want them to know -- i want the viewer to know exactly. i walked in here i don't know 15 minutes ago. commercial break i said to andrew. i gave him some thought, okay, to preload this, to think about this. i want to tell you exactly what i told him, which is, andrew, grab your phone and look through and think of any business leader in your whole phone, and i want you to grab your phone, hold it up to you and you've got a million people in there. and could have changed mine over and over and over. in fact, i think you did more than once. and to think of one person in there. have you got somebody in mind? >> just so we're clear, the ceo of a major company. and i went back and forth and then i said one. >> have you told anybody, have you whispered it? you've got one person right now out of your whole phone. >> yeah. >> if you were to get this person on the phone i feel like right away yo

he didn't have the rolodex, but he didn't have the rolodex, but he did use it as a platform to launchelf into a far more worthwhile career than most presidents do afterwards. essentially, most of them hit the lecture circuit and just start. >> i don't know what did he do.7 >> i don't know what did he do? >> well, he established the camp david peace talks. i mean, i know that, but i mean, all of that, you know, it was largely he was he hosted talking shops mostly to do with middle east peace crisis. >> i was camp david after he was president. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> or was it? >> or was it? >> i didn't realise that. >> i didn't realise that. >> i didn't realise that. >> i don't remember much about it. >> i rememberi it. >> i remember i was 15 by the time he stopped being president. >> so i remember the peanut thing was massive. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> everyone made a big thing abouti >> everyone made a big thing about i don't know why. >> even as a child, i knew that there was a president who was a peanut farmer as if that was like really, really important. >> well, the reason was he was ver