. >>> welcome back, today, we're talking about changes in the roman catholic mass. we're happy to be joined in this broadcast by people of many faiths. you've told me we're not alone and these changes have impacts on other religions. >>> obviously, the catholic charge always worked with christians and nonchristians. after vatican two, most of the groups were excited about the changes. they did things like adopting the speech. they appreciated the changes we made to the readings. they also adopted a lot of our prayers. if you go to many episcopal churches, they say the gloria that we said up until two weeks ago. they said, we changed to match you and you're changing without letting us know and we don't think we want to make the same changes. they feel we're out of sink. we've made changes without consultation and understanding the impact it would have on the fact that you can walk into other churches and say the same prayers. that's upsetting to some. many of the orthodox brothers and sisters are excited about the changes. we've become more inline with what we say. p

there period of living together down there and i loved this is a roman catholic was basically for a couple of late night meals and to go to mass [laughter] that is so jack and they both went to mass together in the cathedral on broad street down there in beautiful charleston. it just shows as they came across throughout the book, and thinking about after i had written a book, jack was a devotional catholic who prayed every night at his bedside. jackie would laugh and say how superstitious he was. david powers told me, my editor said say dave powers told you and don't act like you believe it and jackie said that in her tapes, condescendingly because she was not very religious. she thought it was just superstition. i found out from lynne billings his closest friend who had a room at the white house and traveled with them in europe, travel through nazi europe, he would pray by his bedside. jack was a devotional catholic who also was what he was. he was very complicated. >> host: let's talk about the woman for a minute. we may have to return to it but let's talk about the women during that era. men straight, women stray. there are