vladimirovich vereikin. we were going thoughts about kalina red vasily makarychevna. the creative industry podcast on channel one is still hosted by elena kiper, music video director and producer, and romanhe title , she she me, by the way, it’s also terribly exciting, because in general the definition of the creative industry has arisen. about three or four years ago. then no one says anything at all i didn’t know him, and to be honest, because... i told lena, i’m a media manager. in general, i worked in the media, which has always considered itself a separate industry, generally speaking, just like the film industry and industries in general. in general , any other, and then in the end everything, in general, is not the same. now, i am listening to you now. no la, why? do i have all the words of your title? i just need to explain to the viewer why there was a discussion, the discussion started with me saying that i don’t understand a single uh, well, like the word from the name, what does it mean, that it does not cause you any unassociation. it’s just that i, for example, understand that now, uh, this trend is not only our country, the whole world. eh, everything has turned into an in