the event was organized by mitt romney.washington post reports, it was intended to be a passing of the torch to the republican party's would be saviors. instead it quickly became a romney revival. here is more from the washington post. joe scarborough urged them to begin a draft romney movement. harold hamm, a billion anywhere fundraiser said everyone would encourage him to consider it again. george p. schultz said i wish we could call him mr. president. nbc's casey hunt reports that romney's former finance chairman spencer zwick said i think if you asked this group who can beat hillary clinton, they eyde say mitt romney could beat hillary clinton. when asked about the comments romney said the unavailable is always the most aattractive, right. that goes in dating as well. well said there. he later addressed the romney movement with david gregory. >> david, i'm not running for president. i have said that many times. i want to find the best candidate for us to take our message to the american people that we can bring better j

horseback ride with mitt and ann romney.ered a campaign-style speech at the summit, he zinged hillary clinton, for instance, the buzz was whether he'd maybe make a third go at the white house. the two-time presidential candidate tried to put some of those rumors to rest on "meet the press" yesterday. >> will you be a candidate in 2016 if you were drafted if the conditions were right? would you consider another run? >> david, i'm not running for president. i said that so many times. as you know, we just had this conference here in park city, utah. i brought a number of the 2016 contenders here to meet with my fund-raisers. had i been running, i wouldn't be doing that. >> well, that's sad. romney went on to say he wants to find the best candidate for 2016 and help shape the future of his party. but if it's not going to be romney is there anyone who can take on the hillary clinton juggernaut? joining us to discuss, democratic strategist bob shrum and robert schrader. thank you both for being here. gentlemen, first off, what do

he said romney has got it going on. >> mitt romney's assessment is going at hillary's record is the game >> the idea you would make it more about her record and less than things that might be personal and could be full of land mines, especially the world events you are talking so much about iraq and russia some of those things made romney said during the last campaign seem very smart and that sets her up as having this record of secretary of state, the leader of all of those foreign policy issues as her most vulnerable point. >> you really could go back and you could look at what mitt romney said in 2012 about keeping forces in iraq and what barack obama said. you can see what mitt romney said about russia, what barack obama said. you could have a pretty impressive reel about which candidate was right and which candidate was wrong and more and more, as the events unfold, it's looking like mitt romney may have been on something in some of these foreign policy issues. >> mike allen, thank you so much. kasie hunts, thank you as well. brian schweitzer will join us next hour to explain what h

mitt romney is right, all politics is local.hat's how eric cantor, having run a bad campaign, sort of absentee campaign lost, and lindsey graham, who was attentive, won. >> hillary clinton, harold, a week of rollout on her book, the dead broke comments. is she in a better position or worse position now that she's getting more of the rough and tumble -- >> they have to go back and regroup. she has to have some tighter, easier to connect and understandable answers around her wealth, which i don't think is really an issue. most people running for office who have been out have found ways to make a living. i don't think voters punish. they won't vote for someone they have issues with but they won't vote for someone who they don't believe likes them and doesn't respect them. she fought her whole life for those things. she had a tough week. they have to figure out how you get back to answering questions. her husband was the best at stepping back, looking at the moment, understanding that people want answers to their own problems in the

for romney to run against which romney spoked with a campaign-style speech deeming the quote, obama/y clinton foreign policy a monumental bust. romney staunchly denies he's going to run a third time, but with republicans particularly the republican donor class struggling to settle on a viable candidate, there's increasing sense that romney may be the best they've got. poll released yesterday showing romney as the leading gop presidential candidate in new hampshire and on fox business a few weeks ago, neil cavuto had a message for the skeptics. >> now, before you dismiss what i said then, what i'm telling you tonight, do remember this, ronald reagan tried three times and succeeded on his third venture. >> fair point. joining me now, msnbc contributor, josh barro for "the new york times." kelly ann conway, president and ceo of the polling company. and phillip klein, senior washington writer at the "washington examiner." kelly, let me start with you. as someone i guess who had their pulse to a certain extent on the public opinion on the republican base, is there any base appetite for a

romney finished his annual policy reteet in utah, what is his role here?ingmaker here? does he have that kind of influence? >> two years after he lost, faded away a little bit on the national scene, he's become a bit of a kingmaker. people do in the establishment are interested to some extent of romney running again, but he continues to rule that out. he's likely have enough of that political campaign. but i think there's a lot of interest in some sort of national figure who can galvanize a lot of interest. the other candidates, like rand paul, marco rubio, chris christie, all having potential drawbacks and trouble mounting their own campaigns. i think people would like romney to stay what kind of candidate they would like to see. >> jeb bush was invited not able to attend. but are those in attendance possibly the gop candidate in 2016. >> absolutely. continued talk about a divide in the republican party in trying to figure out which way they want to go, do they nominate someone in the primaries with who's a far more conservative candidate? the national pa

she's no mitt romney. >> mitt romney had more dynamism. you look at the answer in the recent clip we saw, there's not a dynamic fresh face candidate who is going to transform the american economy. >> she was at least in the open. >> first of all, don't you think to a certain extent she's had a couple bad weeks out of a 30-year career. most americans have a lot more to say about the world cup than any of this stuff. don't you think we're getting too excited? now we have her in a box. >> first of all, i think the fact so many people are ta paying attention about hillary clinton says a lot about president obama. the big problem she has is exactly what you said. this is not a fresh face on the scene that's going to bring new energy. she's been on the scene for 25 years. she hasn't driven a car since 1996. nothing but secret service protection. >> we get all excited about her saying a little thing. if you're the average person, you think hillary clinton, you know who she is. you don't think she doesn't care about anybody. >> it's been three wee

romney was the last contender for the white house. this is a way of holding together the thing that he built. the campaign structure, the money, the donor and have the structure somehow have some influence going forward in the party and in the 2016 primaries. >> is mitt romney sort -- has he emerged as the defake factor leader in the gop? >> i wouldn't say that. he built the most successful fundraising machine in republican presidential history. in the early part of the campaign, what you have is pieces of the machine looking for a candidate to get behind, whichever of the 2016 contenders can seize what he built will have a huge advantage in those primaries in the year and a half. >> who else was out there? and what else happened? >> we had chris christie out there, we had mike huckabee. christie gave a speech. he didn't talk about the bridge scandal. he said it's over and done with when asked about it. i'm not sure the donors are moving on. i think now, at long last after all the months it is really taken its toll. i think a lot of t

joe biden, rick perry, mitt romney and sarah palin.than biden, perry and mitt romney but by this standard, sarah palin. one question i had in all these interviews, as she sees president obama going down in the polls, how much does she have to worry about that or does she let that take the place over here an worry about 2016 over here? >> i think she can't afford to do that. i think you've seen some of her answers reflect the fact that she's cognizant of president obama's declining standing with the american public. she's picked her response where to create separation with president obama. she did not have to put it in this book that the obama folks wanted her to go after sarah palin in 2008 and she pointedly said no. the fact that she put that in there i think is very telling. you add on some of the sort of foreign policy differences, most notably syria, she wanted to arm the rebels. she is creating some space. not in a way that will tick off some obama folks. >> always hard for the president to maintain that party's power. she's obvio

they're very good at it. >> it's clear as day when president obama debated mitt romney and mitt romneythere should be been a status of forces agreement, mitt romney said no. he said it would have tied us down and wouldn't help us in the mideast. >> that clip needs to go everywhere. what you really did is you showed that it's a convenient, kind of statement and argument to make with one reporter but then at another time it's not so convenient. and when you put them together, you see that the president and his people are not being honest with us. >> the magic of videotape. what did you think about the bergdahl thing? obviously you know the platoon. >> i think there's no reason she should be defending bowe bergdahl's kind of situation at this point. we don't know what he's going to say. it would be easy for her to say they were there, we take them at their word. >> there was no reason to diminish them in trying to protect him. >> more on our lead story next. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash pre

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because people like john mccain and mitt romney are able to survive. >> there's the romney path. >> let'sause a lot of people making the comparison on election night what happened to, you know, senator graham in south carolina, how did he win given his position on immigration and cantor ostensibly this was an issue. there's an issue between running statewide and running in a congressional district, so when you're looking at the voter makeup, the primary makeup in a statewide republican primary versus a congressional republican primary, the dynamics are very, very different. you do have more moderating voices that come out in the statewide primaries because it's from parts of the state that may be a little bit more moderate in their make-up in, you know, that area versus a specific congressional district which was designed and crafted to be very red. so, that's number one in terms of how the numbers kind of play themselves out. i think more broadly on what jeb bush needs to do and i really -- of all the people at the table, participating at the table for president, i think he has the gravi

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mitt romney is right, all politics is local.hat's how eric cantor having run a bad campaign, sort of absentee campaign lost, and lindsey graham who was attentive won. >> hillary clinton, a week of rollout on her book, the dead broke comments. is she in a better position or worse position now that she's -- >> they have to go back and regroup. she has to have some tighter, easier to connect and understandable answers around her wealth, which i don't think is really an issue. most people running for office who have been out have found ways to make a living. i don't think voters punish. they won't vote for someone they have issues with but they won't vote for someone who they don't believe likes them and doesn't respect them. she fought her whole life for those things. she had a tough week. they have the figure out how to get back at answering questions. her husband was the best at stepping back, looking at the moment, understanding that people want answers to their own problems in their homes and communities, how you create jobs. h

romney from running again. >> very quickly on hillary clinton and this book.ll of a sudden, you know how you watch conventional wisdom in this town and all of a sudden the weekend chatter was, well, it was a disaster. the rollout didn't work. it hasn't gone well. what have you learned from the rollout? >> two things. one is that she's still rusty as a person in these interviews. she has something of a thin skin. the other is that there is a big audience out there for hillary clinton. if you see the people lined up to get these books, there are a lot of people who want to hear from her. there's potential energy, particularly from a lot of women behind a hillary clinton candidacy. we have this by fifurcated worl >> enthusiasm is real. >> the worst news for hillary clinton was not the rollout, which had some problems, it's what's happening in iraq. she'll have to be answering that and that is going to be a tough one. >> especially since she used this book to say, okay, i was wrong. susan page, dan balz, thank you very much. >>> time for the first number in today'

you don't get to run an effective campaign against the ghost of mitt romney. >> also if you're being you're a democratic candidate who is being compared to mitt romney, that automatically right there is terrible, as a huge mitt romney credit -- >> stephanie, if you had been running hillary clinton's non-campaign, her book tour, and you heard her go "we were dead broke when we left the white house" you'd be back on the phone, oh my god, you'd never believe what she just said, correct in. >> it was a fact they were dead broke leaving the white house. >> you needed clarification. >> however. >> however. >> i would say spend more time talking about everything that you have fought for in your entire life including your first job out of school working at the children's center. >> that's exactly what she said and i think this is a great opportunity for her as she did this week to talk about not only her life experience, she left law school and went to the children's defense fund and went door to door working on issues of ensuring every poor child in connecticut was actually going to school.

now, clearly, there's a double standard at work and mitt romney and john mccain, because they are rich or have money in their family and the mccain's case, you know, were treated by democrats as if that made them ill suited to be president. but for hillary clinton to try to make such a pretense. yes, she and her husband were in debt when they came out of the white house, but they were clearly members of the nation's very most elite and both of them with enormous earning potential which they have gone on to display to the tune of what some people say as much as $200 million. >> she already had a book deal before she left. >> she did. terry mccallive standing there to help her on any mortgages. there was never any doubt about their financial prospects. if they weren't rich on paper, they were about to be rich and everybody knew it and i don't think -- and i don't think it's a problem. i don't know why she's worried. maybe it's because bret she wants to make income inequality an issue and she doesn't want to be on the wrong side of that issue. >> what do you make the overall roll out, a c

way back then it was mitt romney pushing vouchers. i don't know, maybe to blame him. and then i got an unusual amount of e-mails on this and what was a big environmental push back there. global warming, global freezing. and so we are all going to find ourselves in another ice age. and a 1978 leonard nimoy documentary that spelled it all out. and spot going nuts about global cooling, balance and told you it was bogus. on the other hand, that would've scared me. and nancy pelosi during yesterday's press conference, still enjoying a photo of you with your parents. >> sui, one of my favorite pictures. and you are right to be skeptical. that came right after and suddenly the whole world was turning into a big skating rink. good for you and your parents. and it was absolutely brilliant. using that high school graduation photo to seal the deal, not so brilliant. and ianni says do you think your parents had any idea that you would grow up to become a right-wing clueless person that you are today. now, do you think your parents named you that

you pointed out mitt romney's problem. at that point in time we were saying i wish he would just own the fact that he worked for this and that he's a successful person and we want hillary clinton to own who she is. we're sitting here watching her stumble over her words and she's so guarded and she's watching what she says. people just want honesty. they're sick of this. >> and my recollection is she grew up under relatively modest circumstances and when her husband was governor of arkansas, they remember making dirt back then. >> but that's been several decades ago now. >> sure. she should just admit that you're rich now but that you woshed your butt off to get there. they started as -- i think she was a staffer during watergate on capitol hill making nothing, you know? she woshs hard. >> if you compare hillary clnt on to a sarah palin, people feel like she's a regular person. she struggled, she's not a washingtonian. she's just one of them. i don't know if it's about the money with hillary clinton. i think she has this im

they have mitt romney to thank for it.re there for a retreat organized by the former gop presidential nominee. lots of 2016 presidential hopefuls were in attendance, including new jersey governor chris christie, kentucky senator rand paul, wisconsin congressman paul ryan. he was the 2012 vp nominee with romney, of course. you may be surprised to hear that this man was there too. former montana governor brian schweitzer. he's a democrat. there's plenty of buzz that he may be thinking of running for the democratic presidential domination. according to "the new york times" he joked that, quote, there's not a single vote for me in the building. "times" claims romney took a shot at the media saying schweitzer would find some votes in the pressroom. looks like romney also invited hillary clinton. she's of course in the middle of her book tour and couldn't make it to utah this weekend. at the retreat romney didn't have kind words about clinton's tenure as secretary of state. he said the obama, biden, hillary clinton foreign polic

it gave mitt romney 206 electrical college votes.for windows 24 years the whites lost more than half of their electoral college. that is because, reflects a country, the census says it will happen in 200043, 30 years from now. there transition generation, much more mixed race public to read and every year. as more millennials agent to the electorate and more age out, nice way to move on the greater rewards, that a like to read, mitt romney won the light vote by 20 percentage points, he got 17% of the non white vote. and the ascendant to vote in the country. the reason the republican party is involved in an interparty civil war, if they look at these numbers and they say somebody described the republican party as the pale, male and sale party. if you get 70% and we're on have to become a majority non-white countries they have big challenges, it will not be smooth sailing for the democrats. it is possible their own coalition will be fissures within them. it seems complicated, politics changes, but both -- the republicans thought they w

we're up here for a mitt romney summit. 300 mitt romney donors who just don't want it to end.gotten together people who could be big backers of 2016 candidates. and they're here to audition. you're going to have chris christie, rand paul, mike huckabee, paul ryan all here talking over the next couple days. and for the -- they call it the e-2 summit for experts and enthusiasts. you can shotgun shoot with paul ryan, golf with rand paul. >> wow. so what's the idea here? what's the goal? we want these big donors to take a look at different candidates for 2016? and if so, who are they most excited about? >> they would be most excited about jeb bush and chris christie, period. that's what this crowd is about. and the idea is to try to keep them together. mitt romney wants to keep them as a powerful political force. he's going to speak today and keep his name in it. but hearing what heilemann called the non-cheap seats of park city. they're pining for mitt. they want mitt to run again. that's not in the cards, so they're looking for someone else. so if you're rand paul, if you're mik

. >>> coming up on "meet the press" in 20 minutes, an exclusive interview with mitt romney and turmoil and how the u.s. should respond. coming up at 10:30 on nbc 10. >>> a day in mourning in ukraine after pro russian forces shot down a military plane killing 49 troops and crew on board. the military transport plane carrying equipment and provisions was about to land when it was shot out of the sky. ukrainian officials accused the russians of supplying weapons that downed the plane. russia denies that. the newly elected president poroshenko promises to track down and punish who's responsible for shooting down the plane. >>> people are dead after a bomb blast in afghanistan. among the dead are four members of the country's election committee. the explosion came after taliban leaders warned people not to vote in the runoff election. in a separate incident, taliban members cut off 11 people's fingers as punishment. the results from this election are expected in july. >>> today marks 100 days since the disappearance of malaysian flight 370. family members gathered in beijing saying all they

mitt romney taking on hillary clinton. they all seem to see vulnerabilities in her and they are seizing on the sort of rocky book tour. >> yes, and it was very interesting. one thing that he left out was he didn't mention the other "b" word besides bergdahl which is benghazi, for one. and then i think i'm not sure about whether her comments on bergdahl are a vulnerability, but one thing that will be an interesting set of discussions, something that she touches on very, very lightly in "hard choices," she is -- iraq and her role in the maliki government, the decision to -- the failure to negotiate a status of forces agreement and how that situation was allowed to deteriorate. if you look in the index of the book, one mention of maliki. she fesses up to having got ten wrong on iraq and then she doesn't say very much more about it. >> the vote to go in was 2002 so that does not involve her tenure as secretary of state. chris cillizza, we just saw some pictures of what happens when you go to the pentagon city costco on saturda

and mitt romney in 2012.this challenge republicans more because of the stereo type of wealth that democrats often leavy at republicans? >> well, i think it's like romney now. the comments the clintons are making are similar to him saying he likes nascar because he knows a lot of nascar owners. they have lived in the upper 1% they forget the rest of the average plight. we go around our town. they live in one of the most elitest money towns in america. usa all of this us, yeah, it changes the game. they're desperate to get back in power. they try to find ways to connect with average americans. >> does it hurt republicans more because the argument that has been made? >> i don't think it's hurting republicans more. i think it's putting her in a difficult position to be the leader of the democratic party. she's advocating policies. to angela's point, she doesn't anymore. >> i didn't say that. >> it just is not -- it doesn't -- it flies in the face of convention. >> that's not what i said. what i said was she tradi

mitt romney was very strong on protecting american jobs from immigrants both legal and illegal. i would also say that the last time republicans won a statewide election in california, when was that? with proposition 187. that was the proposition that said illegal aliens cannot get welfare and so on. do i think that's a winning issue. one other point on bret hume's point none of these proposals are amnesty because amnesty must be unconditional that's not true. ronald reagan's amnesty in 1986 was not unconditional, very much like the amnesty being talked about today where you have to jump through hoops and, you know, you have to learn to speak english and takes civics tests and ronald reagan called it amnesty. look it up in black's law dictionary. that's an example of an amnesty. the reason people support amnesty don't want to call it amnesty is because it's unpopular. like the way people don't want to be called liberal, the pro abortion ladies don't want us to call it pro abortion and illegal aliens -- >> let me ask you this, ann, because the latest polling shows 68%, i think it'

neil: but mitt romney says that is what they should get at. >> mitt romney is the good guy and he ismart. >> but he did not connect with the voters and there is a one thing that shows they are more pro-business if you want to connect to the lower income worker to make more money than you talk about pro-business policies you encourage so leaders to start hiring then you can take credit for that you cannot do that by trashing the obamacare may be to win the election. but republicans have to deliver and they have had that chance over and over and with romney it was like ability. i would vote for you if you were still there. neil: the you face this in california because things were so bad for so long just a nominal pick up in activity now governor brown looks okay. so i think this is national we are in a funk for so long we are grateful for the anemic pickup of sales that we have been so beaten down that we think we hit pay dirt? ltd. slogan is the california comeback but most families have no way dia when he is talking about. so we have to raise expectations and demand more to grow the

problem that was also at the center of romney's campaign.dence but with no core belief. it seemed like the real answer to why she was running for president was simply because she wanted to be president. will 2016 be different? it's possible but so far i haven't seen change i can believe it just yet. "now" starts now. >> as a crisis in iraq worsens, u.s. considers talks with a long time foe. it is tuesday, june 17th and this is "now". >> there is a giant hole in the middle of the middle east. >> more violence raging in iraq. >> heavy fighting between sunni insurge enlts and iraqry government forces. >> president obama is now authorized 275 troops -- >> to provide support and security for u.s. workers and the u.s. embassy. >> the iraqi government is focused on stamping out the insurgency there but not through the tactics favored through the obama administration. >> are we going to be fighting on behalf of the maliki government? >> he has done more damage to that country than anyone -- >> what we can't do is make it look like there's an iranian

listen, if we could pray here just to tick you off, let it not be mitt romney. don't want mitt romney. >> would you be more interested if it was marco rubio? >> i don't think rubio has a chance based on division in the party. jeb bush is your best candidate. >> no, he's not. >> someone else you're not interested in. >> america doesn't want another bush. we need somebody fresh. invigorating. marco rubio. >> looking forward to seeing that name or learning who that person is in the next couple months. nice to have you both here. thank you very much. >>> off roading in the middle of a car race. a 21-year-old man in the u.k. is facing charges for driving his girlfriend's volkswagen on the track while she screams for him to stop. >> oh my god. >> yeah! >> do you think they're still together at this point? just curious. race cars narrowly avoided them. they made it all of the way around the track once before pulling over to pit lane. the man is apologizing saying he's getting death threats and its fair share of criticism for the obvious security lapse. shepard smith is

they're characterizing mitt romney as the king maker. does he want to be king maker?s he want the crown for himself? is there a chance he'll run again? >> i don't think there's a chance he'll run again. i likes and relishes the role of elder states man. one of the most important things that's happening at the utah gathering is that romney's top donors are there. i think this is really the race to get some of the big money people behind the hopefuls more than just the kiss of approval from mitt romney. >> ed? is he running? >> i don't know whether he wants to run or not, but the fact that he keeps holding these meetings, we keep talking about them and that's what he's looking for. he's the gop elder statesman that conceivably one day he could be tied to the nominee and he's responsible for putting that person there. rand paul, chris christie showed up this weekend out there in utah to meet with these donors. a good opportunity to possibly woo some big financial supporters. in the case of rand paul, he's not stopping in utah. he goes onto the idaho convention and tomorr

family nor mitt romney remembers.running that everyday on the cover of the "washington post." this is when hillary clinton was an adult, a practicing lawyer and fits in with what i would say not only about the clintons but the democratic party generally this nonsense, i never want to hear about the republican war on women anymore. in addition to this, just this week new york taxpayers spending $40 million to pay off five savage rapists from central park i've written about a lot including my book "demonic" no proof these five are guilty. the powerful putting one over on innocent victims of rapists. >> you have sold multiple number one best selling books. 84,000 for 14 or $15 million advance, hillary claiming she was broke the year she got an $8 million book deal. seriously. then she says today that, well, bill and i aren't well off. meanwhile, chelsea clinton says i tried real hard to care about money. she got a $600,000 salary for almost a no show job in television. >> yes. what did they calculate it was per minute, $

mitt romney was very strong on protecting american jobs from immigrants both legal and illegal.at the last time republicans won a statewide election in california, when was that? with proposition 187. that was the proposition that said illegal aliens cannot get welfare and so on. do i think that's a winning issue. one other point on bret hume's point none of these proposals are amnesty because amnesty must be unconditional that's not true. ronald reagan's amnesty in 1986 was not unconditional, very much like the amnesty being talked about today where you have to jump through hoops and, you know, you have to learn to speak english and takes civics tests and ronald reagan called it amnesty. look it up in black's law dictionary. that's an example of an amnesty. the reason people support amnesty don't want to call it amnesty is because it's unpopular. like the way people don't want to be called liberal, the pro abortion ladies don't want us to call it pro abortion and illegal aliens -- >> let me ask you this, ann, because the latest polling shows 68%, i think it's 67% favor a pathwa

mitt romney was very strong on protecting american jobs from immigrants both legal and illegal.last time republicans won a statewide election in california, when was that? with proposition 187. that was the proposition that said illegal aliens cannot get welfare and so on. do i think that's a winning issue. one other point on bret hume's point none of these proposals are amnesty because amnesty must be unconditional that's not true. ronald reagan's amnesty in 1986 was not unconditional, very much like the amnesty being talked about today where you have to jump through hoops and, you know, you have to learn to speak english and takes civics tests and ronald reagan called it amnesty. look it up in black's law dictionary. that's an example of an amnesty. the reason people support amnesty don't want to call it amnesty is because it's unpopular. like the way people don't want to be called liberal, the pro abortion ladies don't want us to call it pro abortion and illegal aliens -- >> let me ask you this, ann, because the latest polling shows 68%, i think it's 67% favor a pathway to ci