not only ryan and romney. but knew senator majority leader mitch mcconnell joining in to an apparent resistance movement to the republican party's elected standard-bearer. he said the remarks about the trump university judge were beyond the pale. ryan in his typical fashion took no note at all of the judge's potential political organizations. what could be better than two women leftists on the democratic ticket. hillary clinton stoking speculation she may choose senator elizabeth warren as her running-mate. clinton met with warren at her home in washington. trump tweeted pocahontas is at it again. goofy elizabeth warren has a nasty mouth. hope she is vp choice. warren called trump a thin-skinned fraud. the race already heated. i'll be talking about it with a number of tonight toes and a haven'ts -- a number of politicos and a savants. another social media giant is accused of cyber ask kren orship. news that google hid negative stories about hillary clinton. >> google has been actively altering search recommend

fresh attacks on the gop coming from mitt romney. our cnn politics reporter teddy schleiffer is there. what is mitt romney saying today. >> he's talking to about 300 of his business friends, donors, previous republican candidates. he had serious words both for republicans who failed to stop trump in the past. he lamented, ted cruz and john kasich who he said did not take on donald trump sufficiently. but the most emotional moment came when governor romney talked about the state of affairs today. he said seeing this is breaking my heart. obviously we know governor romney is not a fan of donald trump. we know he feels pretty strongly about this. at times he appeared to be beating back tears as he gave what he saw as the status of the party. it was not very hopeful. you know, he kind of talked about other republican candidates who he might have been more willing to support, he said, had there been a president bush referring to jeb bush, president walker or president rubio, he might have been willing to serve on their administration. he

, and republican voters in the race already decided they're not listening to mitt romney and mitt romneythese are people that lost the gop electorate, the elite. >> my question is are you okay saying to speaker ryan, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and paul ryan, keep it up, keep saying these things, at a certain point it has to hurt. >> he made comments people disagree with and they have a right to their opinion. end of the day, i think you'll see the republican party unite around trump, especially at the convention. all of the things romney put out, there will be a white knight candidate hasn't materialized, he failed even in that. >> tara, mitt romney says these things and says them strongly yet he is not running, says he is not going to try to cause some revolt at the convention with someone else, he is not going to vote for hillary clinton, he is going to write in someone else's name. if his goal is to stop donald trump, is that short of doing everything he can? >> yes. i happen to agree with mitt romney's assessment of what's going on here but it would have been nice then fo

romney saying he's not doing that.out all of that in his exclusive interview. watch. >> as an individual, i simply can't put my name down as someone who voted for principles that suggest racism, xenophobia, racism, bigotry. i can't be a part of that, i don't want to be associated with that in any way, shape or form. >> what do you say to your vice presidential running mate paul ryan who is very pretty cal of donald trump. does not any of the words he used for judge curiel. but still says he's going to support donald trump? >> i don't look at people who are come to different conclusions. they're looking at who is best to serve our country at this time. i'm sure there are some things they'd like to change. and whoever they're going to support, every candidate has a problem or two or maybe more than that. for me, mr. trump's problems are such a dramatic nature. such a departure from the values of our country and personal values that i can't sign up to be part of this campaign. >> are you disappointed that paul ryan has en

>> yeah, and creates governor romney romney's.ts at the republican nomination and the presidency and he blew both of those shots and now you have a hypocrisy problem because he had no problem taking donald trump's money when it mattered to him. now he's got all of these issues with donald trump, please. >> let's talk for a moment, also, about the temperament factor a lot of people have been talking about, particularly with the fox news poll poll that just came out. when it comes to the temperament issue people go -- they trust mrs. clinton more man mr. trump. how do you read that? >> it's interesting those numbers mirror each other. they're in mirror reverse. look, i think donald trump was able to get the republican nomination because of the kind of raw authenticity he showed on the campaign trail during the primary season. people like that he was who he is, that he told it like it is, that he was willing to say politically incorrect things because i think a lot of voters at least on the republican side and a lot of independents f

mitt romney.ave donald trump still going after some of his party statesmen. i want to play the sound bite and get your reaction on the back end of it. take a listen. >> i've had moropposition from the republican party than i do from the democrats. it's crazy. with that being said, i think it's coming together. the republican party has to be tough, has to be smart. and if they're not tough and smart, i'm going to win, but a lot of other people won't. >> i mean, he's saying, like, we're going to come together. like it's almost like, you know, very -- >> oh. >> exactly. >> no fun. >> i feel like -- i feel like he -- i want to get your reaction to whether or not you think comments like those are going to divide the party further or not. >> the -- the goal we all seek is to have the right kind of policy to liberate the american people from a lot of burdens that we face now that we really could find much less so if we had the right kind of leadership. and donald trump has said some very compatible, cong

, trump calling romney a, quote, choker as romney renews his calls for trump to release his tax returnsusing the presumptive nominee of hiding a bombshell that's in this cnn exclusive with wolf blitzer, watch. >> there's no question in my mind he will never release his tax returns. he'll follow one excuse after another to say why he can't and he'll never release them because there's something in there that he feels is worse for him than shooting someone on fifth avenue. >> in addition to the concerns over the republican infighting, some in the party are worried that trump will not be able to just raise the money necessary to compete with the democrats this fall. cnn politics reporter is following this story for us. and we know that at this romney summit, this was i guess fair to say a decidedly anti-trump crowd. >> right, well this is not a never-trump conference per se, but it is, of course, a retreat for allies and associates and fund-raisers for governor romney who has been leading the charge against the presumptive nominee, you know, on the sidelines here, you know, the trump talk h

i want to focus on mitt romney.'s somehow a concept that being against donald trump is somehow against your values, against your integrity because last time i checked, if your values included surrendering the supreme court, giving up the first amendment, second amendment and all those that follow, if those are your values, then maybe you should vote for hillary clinton because that's what's going to happen if the republicans don't support their nominee which is what they asked all of us to do when it was mitt romney. >> romney says trump appeals to what he called racist tendencies that exist in people. that's a quote. why hasn't donald trump done more to condemn some of the white supremacist supporters out there, why hasn't he told them he doesn't want their support. >> you know what, wolf, a lot of those supporters are fake. mr. trump is not wasting time applauding and appeasing to the media or a lot of republican detractors. he has one focus, that is the american public, the voters. believe it or not, the majority

romney said about donald trump today. but what is the political value of that? is he going to continue to lash out at every single critic, given he now has hey clear opponent in clinton? >> mitt romney is a pretty prominent one and i do think this goes to reinforcing his image as the antiestablishment candidate ic candidate. i mean, i have no idea what mtt romney is doing here. to be perfectly candid, every time he does something like this, in truth i think it only helps donald trump. and the best thing for him to do would just go dark as it were and not say anything. but he keeps doing this and frankly i think that that helps. you heard the crowd boo him when donald trump mentioned his name. that's just -- if you're from

he's already tweeted at mitt romney criticizing him. what exactly did romney say? >> yes, mitt romney here was speaking to his yearly conference of about 300 fund-raisers, donors, allies, people who have been in the romney fold for a while. and romney pretty much not only tore into donald trump but also people who he kind of thought enabled his rise. he said of the current republican party, seeing this is breaking my heart. at times pretty emotional, he seemed to be beating back tears as he spoke on a stage before people who admire the man. he also had sharp words for fellow republican candidate, who mitt romney said did not adequately challenge trump during the primary season calling out ted cruz and john kasich in particular. this is a very emotional moment for governor romney. at times he seemed to be trying to implore them to change their mind, maybe act differently. this conference is not a, quote, unquote, never trump retreat. there are several people who are prominent fund-raisers, prominent supporters of the trump campaign. if they were looking for a signal

then he made an attack on romney a centerpiece of the rally this afternoon. listen to this. >> i watched this poor sad mitt romney this morning. he suffers from mysogenist. i don't think he knows what mysogenist is. he's sitting like a real stiff. this guy let us down, folks. >> reporter: not all republican governors have welcomed trump with open arms when he visited their state. today, governor rick scott did. he was a main part of the program, introducing mr. trump and that goes to show that in what will be a very important state come november, donald trump has the support of a major player in the state's establishment wing. back to you. >> thank you so much. >>> mitt romney's stinging anti-trump comments came during his annual summit, a who's who of republican donors and top campaign staff from 2012. they gather to talk about ideas and american leadership. at least that's what they say it's about. this year, many of the closed door sessions have turned angrily anti-trump with ceo meg whitman comparing him to joining us, mitt romney's 2012 policy director,

in 2012 obama versus romney. republicans saw romney won big among white voters. a 20-point marnlen over obama. and obama won huge among nonwhite voters. republicans looked at these, particularly the obama advantage among latino voters and said this is a group that's growing in size so the conclusion from the professional and political class of the republican party after 2012 was if we're going to compete in 2016 we need to be more friendly to latino voters. more friendly to nonwhite voters. we need to do immigration reform. we need to get this number up. it's the only way back to the white house. here we are four years later. donald trump is going to be the republican nominee. that is not his theory. donald trump's theory is not going to get a bigger share of the latino vote. it's this. he this he can drive up the support that mitt romney had among white voters. this is where things get interesting. because a lot of republicans assumed after 2012 that that number that romney got there, 59-39 he was basically maxing out what republicans could get from white voters

mitt romney has to make that calculus. he's 100% committed to helping some of our folks who are in down ballot races, senate races, house races. the open seat we have in the florida. he's absolutely committed to doing those things and i think regardless of what he does at the top of the ticket he'll be very involved in helping house and senate candidates. >> thank you so much for the conversation in that beautiful part of the world. get back to those meetings. >>> bernie sanders next move. when could the presidential candidate bow out of the race and what future role could he play on the campaign trail? (vo) on the trane test range, you learn what makes our heating and cooling systems so reliable. if there's a breaking point, we'll find it. it's hard to stop a trane. really hard. trane. the most reliable for a reason. and i quit smoking with chantix. i have smoked for 30 years and by taking chantix, i was able to quit in 3 months and that was amazing. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit

or are they using romney as a punching bag? >> reporter: there is no concern from people from the trump campaign we talked to or folks at the rnc about a serious challenge at the convention. in fact, if you want to kind of look at how far the republican party has gone in the last four years, how much it's changed, when donald trump was punching back at mitt romney today saying he choked in 2012, saying that basically, he had a chance and he loved it. there are not a lot of people at trump rallies who sympathize with the point that mitt romney is trying to make so the crowd got as energized as ever in florida, an important state, when trump was going after mitt romney. it does not seem the folks who supported trump through the primaries really care too much about what the 2012 nominee has to say. >> we certainly heard that out west, the folks who were big deals in 2012 now going clearly time has passed us by. folks are interested in other things. peter doocy down in tampa, thank you, sir. >> thanks, leland. >> despite the start,

>> google mitt romney and racism.r things when he was running. >> he got skewered for it. but he is not running this time. do you take issue at all with your boss, you say you know him personally, with comments he made especially about the judge? >> no. mr. trump clarified his remarks, he issued a statement. his remarks were misconstrued. there's a double standard in the media. it was unfairly played out. again, he doesn't have a racist bone in his body. he is an amazing person with a huge heart, he employed african-americans, hispanics and minorities by the thousands. it should be left there. >> jason, he said trump can read off a teleprompter and pretend to be someone he is not, but do you think voters will forget the things he said in the past year? >> no. as governor romney said, he would like to move on from the comments, but the problem is you can't put the jeannie back in the bottle. it is one thing after another. every week we have new controversy and every other week he is offending some other group that we n

donald trump firing off on twitter responding to cnn's exclusive interview with mitt romney, romney vowing dangerous. >> presidents have an impact on the nature of our nation and trickle down racism, trickle down bigotry, all these things are dangerous to the heart and character of america. >> and here's what donald trump had to say just a short time ago on twitter. mitt romney had a chance to beat a failed president but he choked like a dog. now he calls me racist but am least racist person there is. we're live from tampa, florida, where that trump rally is scheduled to start in just about three hours. jeremy, donald trump didn't mention romney last night but we see he is starting the day at least mentioning him on twitter. i guess we should expect to see that at the rallies today in florida as well. >> reporter: it doesn't take mitt romney to fire at donald trump for donald trump to hit back at him. he's been accusing him of choking like a dog for the last weeks. but despite mitt romney hitting him yesterday with this racial accusation, donald trump in the whole last week has been, you k

trump calling romney pathetic, the continued war of words coming as romney holds a big annual big donorrence in park city, utah. that's where the barbs were out for the head f o the gop ticket. >> i don't want to see trickle down racism, i don't want to sea president of the united states saying things which change the character of the generations of americans that are following. presidents have an impact. on the nature of our nation. and trickle down racism, bigotry. ma sonlgny, all these things are exextraordinary nairly dangerous to the heart and character of america. >> what will happen to the republican party? judy miller, your recent book was the story. a reporter's journey. judy, let me start with some stunninging and sharm slams at the closed door meeting. politico is reporting tonight that meg whitman, she compared trump behind closed doors to hitler and mussolini. speaker ryan supposedly said he told magician david copper field, he wished he could disappear with this continue ver saysy, so how in the world can the republicans unite with this division? >> i think they're going t

so he went hard at mitt romney, of course, mitt romney just yesterday talked about, again, how he couldn'tupport donald trump as the nominee, saying he was worried about trickle down racism and trickle down bigotry. here's trump's response. >> i watched this poor, sad mitt romney this morning. he suffers from massagenist. i don't think had know what's massage massagenist is pt sitting like a real stiff. he let us down. he's a stone cold loser and when you're a choker you can never give a choker a second chance. >> reporter: proving he is a counterpuncher and went again after elizabeth warren, calling her again pocahontas saying he knows he shouldn't say that, and not to the senator, to pocahontas, of course. this is really one of the worst weeks in his campaign where he had very heavy criticism not just from gop insiders in the never trump movement, but from top republicans like the speaker, like mitch mcconnell. even one republican senate unendorsing trump but doesn't seem at his rails to be changing anything. again, sounding about the same as he did several months ago. now, he has more t

i've been clear with mitt romney.t mitt romney needs to do in all candor, he needs to find a hobby, go away, take up golf. lou: what did you tell bill kristol? >> i said what he is essentially doing is trying to ensure that hillary clinton gets to pick four supreme court justices. lou: he doesn't care does, he? >> i think he does care. >> i think he's a neocon and nothing more than residue of a time that is gone. >> they don't understand what's happening. they don't understand the changes that people want. lou: to hell with them. step aside, this arena is trump's and the republican parties. >> their time is then, not now. so many people are in denial what's happening in this country. easy to be dismissive. but it's hard to come up with the -- lou: trump has 86% support of republicans. >> that's right. lou: he needs 90 according to all of the savants. >> i don't know if i agree. lou: that's what the savants say, how much does he need? >> i think high 80s is good. i think he's going to get a higher percentage of indepen

and mitt romney, who i don't understand what he's doing. like myth but he is trying to divide the party at a time when we need to unite. trish, what doesn't make sense is that if we want to talk about things a candidate said, could we go back and dig up about the 47%? i mean how many times do we need to be reminded that candidates make mistakes. or that even when they don't, they say their mind. i just think this is an absurd way for republicans so-called leaders to act. >> they so desperately want to be able to keep the house and the senate. i wonder, governor, if by criticizing donald trump so publicly and saying, loo, you for example he's this, he's that, you know, if they are running the risk of alegal leanating all of trump's supporters and therefore pretty much guaranteeing themselves an inability to secure the house and senate. >> i think they are hurting the prospects for getting the house and senate. again, they seem to forget that house and senate members have a lower approval rating than cockroaches right now. i want you to think

mitt romney and elizabeth warren.conomists on the right and the left and the center all agree -- trump would throw us back into recession. he says women will start making equal pay as soon as we do as good a job as men. he calls himself the king of debt. and his tax plan sure lives up to that name. alexander hamilton would be rolling in his grave. he has written a lot of books about business. they all seem to and at chapter 11. [laughter] is this who you want to lead us in an emergency? someone thin-skinned and quick to anger, who would likely be on twitter attacking reporters, or bringing the regulatory system down on his critics, when he should be focused on fixing what is wrong? what he even know what to do? mark: unlike in the past, when clinton attacked trump, this time team trump replied with more than just a few tweets, deploying and more conventional tool. what is known as rapid response. the trim campaign fired off 9 press releases, along with a a handful of trump's tweets.he followed that up with posting thi

mitt romney's bane capital was better by any metric.mitt romney was a better businessman than donald trump. unfortunately he was embarrassed about his wealth, romney. he was embarrassed about the business career and wouldn't defend it. i don't know why. trump doesn't have that problem. he'll defend it. he'll say there were failures. look at trump tower. people swear by these golf courses. he won't have a problem standing up for himself on the business case. >> donald trump's attacks on hillary clinton. what's he trying to do going after her political and personal evidents as well? >> he's defining her as the special interest. crony capitalism. the one thing he's showing is one thing republicans wanted for a long time. the candidate will take the bark off the opposition. going mano a mano with hillary clinton. it will be a fistfight. he's showing her you want to attack me, i will dump on you relentlessly. attack you as a corrupt person. there is a lot of suspicion in the country. >> what do you think? >> absolutely. it was also just inte

mitt romney and his pals, they're in utah or soon will be.d what is their purpose if they have one? i'll have a few thoughts in my commentary tonight. isn't it great to see former members of the republican ticket doing their best to achieve party unity and supporting the nominee and all of that. stay with us. we're coming right back. >>> it appears on the romney-ryan-cue ball disaffected and steams elite. mitt romney gathered high profile elites big money donors who get together to talk about big weighty issues facing the world and ponder, pop der the republican party's future while sipping chardonnay. it is the very same place that romney summoned the cadre at the beginning of his election campaign four years ago. a place where trump said romney should have won. e-2. experts and enthese thus yafts. i think it should have been e tu rather than e-2. he sought money four years ago, donald trump's money among them. guessing by the guests most are not fans of donald trump. imagine. speaker ryan, senator bass, governor scott walker will be there.

and donald trump already has more appeal than mitt romney did. >> he does.or clinton sattacking, hey i hope there's a housing crisis, because i'll get rich. he said, i'm a businessman. this attack is even a deeper wound. they're talking about preying on older people, single moms. it's a real psychological appeal. they're talking about preying on people's weaknesses. they up-sell them, they don't get what they want. they say trump is going to hand-pick the teachers, but he doesn't. we have jewelry salesmen teaching real estate with no real estate experience. so it gets to the heart of whether he's made his money as a scam artist. i was kind of shocked, i thought that was a remarkably tepid defense of co-chair. donald trump doesn't say, this is under litigation. he said they're losers. i was surprised that mr. clovis sat back and said, we'll see. >> it's not going to be resolved legally during this campaign. is this an issue, somebody out there yeah, i'm probably for donald trump right now, does somebody turn on him because of this? >> i'm sure there will be s

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mitt romney. the party's presumptive nominee donald trump and why he is having such a hard time getting the party behind him. >> it is going to be difficult for donald trump to unite the party. that's just a statement of fact and a statement of the obvious because you have somebody that's said some really out rages you things so i don't think we can expect everybody to fall in line but we have to look at this fall. >> joining us now is a former aid and former spokesman for george h.w. bush. he was at the meeting sitting in there. how to get out of this depression mode really. >> there were two topics discussed in that meeting. number one is how do we deal with the donald and number two is how do we preserve our majority in the house and senate. the two are intertwined. >> but if energy is low money might also be low and will that translate to the energy needed down ballot. >> that's one of the huge concerns. you need to have politics 101. a strong person at the top of the ticket otherwise the dete

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and i think that with something like 67 combined electoral votes, if trump were able to hold romney's 202 i think it was or 212, that would put him close to or over the top. my math is a little rusty. >> sounded like 279 to me. >> it's new jersey that he's really -- >> he's showing off. >> but i think that if that pattern holds and we begin to see that as the election draws closer, it certainly will be a very interesting election. >> is it your judgment that he can make that kind of hay this year? >> i think he can. i think there is a long ways to go. everybody is gnashing their teeth at the things he's saying, but i think he's defined not by his words, but by his actions and people see him as a leader who is tough, strong at a time the country needs a leader. >> you say that, and at the same time, i think his words do matter. and i think they matter a lot to a lot of people. he's got more votes than any republican in history and you still have five states to go. he is galvanizing a group of people in this country who have given up all hope frankly of ever being represented in washing

he can't do worse than romney is. the evidence so far is he's doing worse than romney with both those groups right now. >> and elise, if you're taking a look at the map, i'll reset it back here to what it looked like in 2012. indiana, that was not what it was. i pressed wrong state. let's try this again. ohio, pennsylvania, florida, going to reset into the democratic column. this is what it looked like in 2012. if you're looking at a scenario for donald trump, you're looking at this map, when would you put the path? >> first of all, i want to say, what would be the absolute game changer, and i think what is a distinct possibility, i think donald trump could lose texas. and then it's really game over. and romney carried it by 16%. it's a very red state, but it has a large hispanic population. and if trump has more weeks like this week, i think we'll really see his numbers crater even more among hispanic voters. and it had been a steady upward trajectory with george w. bush in the state, hugely popular among hispanic vo

you hear mitch mcconnell, mitt romney. mitt romney, detests donald trump. he just called him in that interview vulgar, racist, bigot, xenophobe, a lot of other things. but still saying the will of the people, he's going to be the nominee. do you think donald trump will be the nominee, or do you think it's possible that this could change in the convention floor? >> well, you know, if there is anything we have learned, that anything is possible. we know that a majority of republican voters did not vote for donald trump by the millions. and we also know this. that every delegate that comes to that convention is going to be free to choose to not vote for him. the state laws that purport to bind these delegates, they don't apply. they're unconstitutional. so these delegates are going to go to this convention, and they're going to have a choice to make. and if they choose to support donald trump, what they're doing is, they're choosing to support him and all he stands for. a majority republican voters did not choose donald trump. >> and so do you think enough peo

obama spent those months making the negative case against romney.nk she will probably do that between now and the convention. and the convention will be the time when she becomes positive on herself. mark: this is the democratic strategist view of races, which is they are basically decided before the convention and everything else is falling action. do you think the clinton campaign is geared up with their research, target rich environment to put donald trump away before the convention? jon: i don't think they can put them away, but i think they will unload quite a bit between now and then. mark: the time you got to the convention, gets mitt romney, there wasn't a single person in the obama campaign that thought you would lose. every day, you said we are going to win. do you think the clinton campaign could be in that position? jon: it depends on what happens after the primaries over. we are in that weird space where the primary ends and she gets 70% or 80% of sanders supporters. john: i know you think speeches matter and that president obama gave a

but he did really beat romney by a lot in south carolina. and at the time he had this billionaire backing him who seemed ready to spend infinitely to promote newt gingrich as a candidate. the way that newt gingrich won south carolina so big was that he just brutalized mitt romney in the press and that just seemed like a very effective thing. that wasn't going to turn around any time soon. i remember covering it at the time. i remember it was a short period of time but i remember the beltway being absolutely captivated for a short period of time by this idea that newt gingrich had come back from disgrace, right? newt gingrich had come back from the '90s. he had dug himself out of his political grave. he was going to topple mitt romney for the republican presidential nomination in 2012. for a short period of time after that huge win in south carolina, it really felt like he might. but even in the midst of that newt-mania in 2012 you could kind of tell even newt gingrich himself wasn't really swept up in it. you could kind of tell that even tho

you mentioned mitt romney, though, the 2012 obama strategy against romney to paint him as the out ofe on the backs of working people. donald trump and mitt romney, both rich guys on paper, but trump's skews a lot more blue collar. >> i can only imagine mitt romney thinking this guy is way richer than me, like why is he getting a pass where i'm not. trump rhetorically and perception-wise doesn't come across as sort of a member of the landed gentry in the way that mitt romney did. which is totally fascinating. imagine mitt romney saying the following, i'm rich, i'm really very rich. he would never say that and unless he was labeled as out of touch rich guy. trump has said that multiple times. i'm very successful, i'm very wealthy, and yet people see him as sort of this populous messen exercise in messenger in which he could they ever connect with peel. donald trump has his own plane and yet for average people, there feels like something different there. and the only thing i can chalk it up to, the way they present themselves is different. >> it's not always the word, sometimes it's how

mitt romney's was better than any metric. he was a better businessman than donald trump. but unfortunately he was embarrassed about his wealth, romney, he was embarrassed about his business career. he wouldn't defend it. i don't know why. trump does not have that problem. she's bog to defend it and say, well, there have been failures but look at trump tower. people swear by a lot of these golf courses. so he is not going to have a problem standing up for himself on the business case. >> dan, donald trump's attacks on hillary clinton, what is he trying to do with her, going after her political ethics and personal ethics as well? >> he's defining her as special interests. those are his words. crony capitalism. she is very vulnerable. the one thing he is showing her is the one thing republicans have wanted for a very long time, a candidate who be take the bark off the opposition. she's going mono a mono with hillary clinton. it's going to be a fistfight and he is showing her, you want to attack me, i am just going to dump on you relentlessly. i'm going to attack you as a cor

if you were someone like mitt romney, you want people who are proud to vote for him.ou could say this is a true conservative, a guy who served in the military with outstanding resume. but is he someone who donald trump could meet with and say how do we react to david french? , no. not yet. john: we don't want to be dismissive of this person is a -- as a citizen, in the best possible standing. but we were talking about this is someone for never trumpers, who don't like the idea of sitting out the election, and want to cast a vote for someone, you can imagine this guy or someone like him. mark: if you can't raise money, you may have to vote for him by writing him in. the chances of him getting on the ballot, even in states where the deadline is down the road, he has not lined up a running mate or financial support. he has not even definitively decided to do it. that is who kristol was talking about. john: gary johnson and bill wells are more likely to be a factor in this election, running on the libertarian line. two guys who have run states, one of them is almost a nat