>> well, senator romney can speak himself to the significance of that. but i'll say it shouldn't surprise anyone that a senator like senator romney, who has remained committed to his oath to the constitution, would not be supporting senator lee. and so they're just two very different senators. i'm grateful for senator romney's leadership in the senate. i consider him a close friend. i know that if we prevail in this race, i'll work very, very closely with senator romney on most matters. utah and, in fact, every state should have two senators who take the approach of senator romney. we have one, thankfully, but we need two, and that's why we're running to make a change here. >> i want to quickly go back to january 6th. then vice president pence ultimately broke with donald trump and decided to proceed with the certification of the electoral ballots. now, donald trump lambasted his vice president, tweeting... and we all heard the rioters and their chants to hang ke pence. i asked senator lee about that day, and here's what he said. >> i have never seen a v

newted, i supported romney in 2012. i always liked him personally. but this trump derangement syndrome has really revealed a lot about the establishment and what they really stood for all along, has it not? >> well, it's particularly dumb for a republican senator to not be endorsing a republican senator. there's no question that mcmullen will vote with the democrats. all of this nonsense about being independent, that's just baloney. the way the senate and the house work, you ultimately end up with a party. bernie sanders is technically an independent. however, he meets with the democrats. that's a fact. angus king of maine is technically an independent. he meets with the democrats. if mcmullen wins, it's a vote for schumer and a vote nor biden. it's that straightforward. while romney would vote or fail to pursue helping his colleague keep a republican majority, which is where they're drifting now towards a majority and utah will be one of the great surprises if we lost it, furthermore, senator lee is a constitutional scholar a solid conservative and

mclittlen has said, stayed out of this race, no love lost between mitt romney and mike lee. what is happening in utah? >> it is extraordinary to think that a republican incumbent senate candidate in utah could lose his re-election bid to an independent candidate, but mike lee is only five points ahead in the latest statewide poll that is a lead, and not really a safe lead and it is extraordinary to see mike lee begging, pleading with mitt romney with whom he does not have a good relationship, for his support, i think there is no sign that senator romney is about to endorse mike lee. he says he is also friends with mcmillan. and the independent candidates have been closer to romney's view on president trump and on the 2020 election than senator lee has been so that could be one. if you're looking for surprises to watch for, on election night, katy, this is one to watch. >> what do you think, dave? >> i think utah will be in play. i think if we're off in one direction, and it is more likely to be underestimating the size of the republican wave at this point. >> so why would mi

>>, lilac, i have to defer to senator romney can only speak to that but i will say that senator romney and senator lee are two very different kinds of senators, anderson. one, on the part of senator romney, he works across party lines to get things done. he's remain committed, his adult to the constitution, and to defend that. senegalese done the opposite. he's won a least productive members of the senate, in the 12 years of service, he's only passed ten bills. a good number of them were in federal buildings. he refuses to work with members of his own party, letter own democrats to get things done. and he's betrayed his oath to the constitution, when he tried to help president trump remain in office, despite the will of the people. it's something that had they've been successful, would've ended or lead to the end of the american republic. and for all of those reasons, it's isn't a surprise that senator romney, who knows senator lee best. is refusing to endorse adam. and that's why, again, we're able to build a large coalition to replace senator lee. >> liz cheney said yesterday republi

mitt romney, i love the man. i would walk over hot coals for him, but he cannot win a republican primary in iowa and new hampshire. you know, it is a different time right now. we will get through this. we will eventually come back around, but it will take time. so yeah, i am not optimistic. rob portman, what an incredibly good guy and quality legislator, and he was almost on the ticket with mitt romney, but there is not a future right now in the short term in the party for him. no grades, we had dinner -- bill graves, we had dinner with bill graves the other night, and he came out and endorsed a democrat in the state. times are changing. gerald: last question, david. >> when you pull republicans on their belief in the big lie on the reading of the election, you get as high as 70% who believe that. mr. newhouse: i get 59% or so. >> is there any way to differentiate between those that believe that? mr. newhouse: that is tough. we do ask on the survey, on some of our surveys among republicans , do you consider yours

what do you think mitt romney is doing? why don't you think mitt romney?rse mike lee and happens to be the other senator in the state he represents? >> well, you know, mitt romney is an interesting character in this shakespearean drama going on in the republican party. one mp the very few left, liz cheney and others, who stood up against donald trump, and stood for the truth and about what happened on january 6th. that's a real point of contention with him and senator lee and could make the difference in the election. >> there are text messages between lee and mark meadows, who was then trump's chief of staff, that show how much lee was pushing trump folks towards sidney powell, pushing towards a fake election scheme and towards john eastman, in the end, though, he didn't vote to contest results of the election. do you think that saves him? >> no. i mean, i think the fact they're having this debate and that mcmull han so much ammunition, and that he has receipts of mark meadows phone. mark meadows, should have thrown that phone in the river given how much

romney on back to the early 2000s. i always liked him personally, r but this trump derangement syndrome has really revealedreay a lot about the establishment and what they really stood for all along, has it not? >> well, it was particularly dumb for a republican senator to not be endorsing a republican senator . there' at s no question. bu bt mcmullan is going to that' vote with the democrats. and i mean, all this nonsense abouto being independent, that's just baloney. the way the senate and thers i house work, you ultimately end up with a party. bernie sanders is technically an independent. however, h 's ae meets with thetechni democrats. that's a fact. ifgus kingy anhe of maine is technically an independent. however, he meets with the m democrats if mcmullan wins is a vote for schumer and a vote for biden. it's tha ft simple, that straightforward. and why romney would vote or fail to pursue helping hiswhichs colleague keep a republican majority, which is whether suey're drifting now towardsmajy a majority in utah to

mitt romney is one of them.is working against his fellow utah republican senator mike lee in his reelection campaign. it seems like a big story. it's not getting a ton of coverage. senator mike lee joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. your race. i haven't been paying attention but i started reading about it. you're being painted as some sort of dangerous extremist. you are not. you have your fellow utah republican senator working against you. how did this happen? >> he's explained that he's got two friends in this race. when he first told me that, my reaction was who is the other friend? wants to remain neutral. i understand it and i respected. here's what's going on, my opponent is a democrat running in disguise. i understand the commitment made by my colleague and i work with him, i like him. here's the deal. i don't think mitt romney wants chuck schumer to continue to be the senate majority leader. if i am right on that, he needs to get on board because that's exactly what he'll be producing. that's exa

mike lee is mitt romney's colleague in the senate.o this himself. but it's unusual that a senator of one party would not endorse his colleague of the same party, especially when they're in a very tight race to hold on to their seat. so i think that speaks volumes. senator romney and i have a similar vision to how a senator should conduct himself in the senate. number one, maintaining one's oath to the constitution. senator lee has failed to do that when he tried to recruit fake electors to overturn the last election. and then also working with others across party lines and with your own colleagues to get things done. senator lee is one of the least productive and effective members of the senate. senator romney works every week with republicans and democrats to pass key pieces of legislation that help our country overcome major challenges. that'll be my approach if we prevail here. and that will better serve utah and the country. >> i want to follow up with you on something you said there but before i do because we're talking about the

remarks, but the romney campaign did not ask mourdock to pull down a tv ad romney taped. donnelly would go on to win that race. asking you, do debates matter? if you say yes, (202) 748-8000. if you say no, (202) 748-8001. we go to south dakota. doug, good morning. caller: good morning. i watched noem and jamie smith -- jamie smith is a democrat and kristi noem is a republican who kind of followed donald trump around. that was a good debate. if you ask me, i think jamie smith won that. i believe in both parties. both parties got ideas. i should be an independent, but it is too hard to vote up here independent. but that debate was a pretty good one. noem, she is in trouble, because she used the state plane to follow trump around, i believe, and she got in trouble over that. also, she gave favor to her daughters or whatever. but i watched that debate between green last night, too. all she does is uses talking points, you know. and there is really no debate about it. host: you are talking about the democratic candidate winning that debate that you were referring to. what do y

mitt romney is one of them. he is working against his fellow utah republican senator it's lee, in his reelect campaign. seems like a big story, not getting a ton of coverage. senator mike joins us tonight. >> senator , thank you very much for coming on . so your race, which i haven'tve' you' really paying attention to ,but i just started reading about it, you are being painted as some sort of dangerous extremist, which i could seeu a first hand .t. you are not. red you have your fellow utah republican senator working against you. happe >> like, how did this happen? h when, he's explained it. >> he's got two friends in this race. when he first told me that, who my reaction was who's the other friend and therefore wants to remain neutral. look, i understand wants to remain ne and respect. here's what's going on . wha my opponent, evan mcmoon, is a democrat running in disguise. so i understand the commitmentca made by my colleague and igue k with him like him. >> but here's the deal. i don't think mitt romney wants

the fact that mitt romney is not endorsing says everything i need to know about mitt romney and senator to me now. >> i am thrilled to have the endorsement of 48 other republican colleagues in the senate. i welcome mitt to the party. he and i have a good working relationship. that will continue even after this race is over. it would be a shame if we lost the majority in the senate. the ability to serve as an effective counter balance to joe biden's excesses. his rampant inflation. in utah is at 16%. it would be a shame if we lost that because utah elected a leftist named mccullen. i encourage viewers to go to my website. i need their help. >> sean: we support you and the conservatives in utah will see through this. also breaking tonight. even in deep blue connecticut senator richard is seeing his lead splip away. this is a deep blue state. here with reaction republican senate candidate in connecticut is with us. i regret i didn't last year pay more attention to the new jersey gubernatorial race. i don't want to make the same mistake in connecticut. this is a tight rice. i know a lot of

mitt romney, all of these senators, every republican senator but mitt romney is supporting mike lee.h mitt romney? >> inexcusable. they had a debate and mike lee dominated it. mcmullen, he is the democrat in the race. he won't tell you who he will caucus with. why does he go to act blue to get 75% of his funding outside the state of utah. mike lee is strong on the constitution and works hard for utah. i don't think it will be thatcrose if republicans show up and vote like jim jordan said. >> sean: ohio. j.d. vance holding the lead there. it came out today that apparently tim ryan, who was sucking up to chuck schumer future boss, he wants to release one million people in jail and set them free and put them on the streets? >> again part of the radical left agenda. j.d. vance's campaign is going well. i think he will win in a strong way. j.d. vance is the american story. comes from a humble home. served in our military. does great with education. it's the american story. i think the people of ohio understand that. our state is a strong pro-trump state. i think j.d. vance will win. i thi

help us do that. >> have you spoken to senator romney about his neutrality? do you expect him to stay neutral in the race? >> well, i haven't spoken to him about it, but i deeply respect senator romney's leadership in the senate for utah and for our country, and i respect and appreciate his decision to stay out of the race. that's about all i can say. i don't know what his decision will be going forward, but, yes, i would expect him to stick with the decision he's made. but i haven't spoken with him about it. >> senator lee is implying that a vote for you is a vote for the democrats to keep their majority. is he right? >> look, no, because i am running as an independent. and, look, i'm building a coalition of republicans, democrats, independents, and members of third parties to help lead our country forward. i'm not going to washington to join a party or caucus or play the party power game. i'm going to represent our coalition and that's a commitment i made to our coalition and i'll maintain my independence. >> all six years? if you serve the entire time you'

you were on fox news reaching out to mitt romney, a republican in utah for his endorsement, here is the reaction, romney aides gop divide in utah and here is what evan mcmullin says. >> i think it is shameful what i saw this week from senator lee attacking our other senator, we need who will work together. >> you didn't endorse senator romney, why should you get his endorsement now? >> i have always supported nominees for the u.s. senate in my party in the general endorsement of my 48 republican colleagues in the senate even collins and murkowski, we often disagree on a number of issues and collins and murkowski and republican senators have endorsed me and i'm grateful. we need help explaining and spreading the word that evan mcmullin is the democrat's candidate in had race and i encourage your voters and you videoers who want to vote in utah go to lee for senate.com, we could use their help. >> shannon: if you win the senate and house back as republicans, the president has warning, inflation sits at 40-year high, and his policies need time to kick in, he is celebrating and had a warnin

chen was an advisor to republican politicians, including mitt romney and as a fellow at stanford's hoover institution. many experts predict a tight race, so what we've done is invited both candidates to the show. chen joined us on tuesday. today, we welcome his opponent to the show. welcome. this first question we asked your opponent as well, so we want your take. a state comptroller is the chief financial officer who oversees the state budget. what in your background has prepared you for this job? >> thank, so as you heard in the introduction i spent eight years on the san francisco board of supervisors and in that role i chaired the budget committee for a number of years and at that time it was a $12 million budget. i also chaired the government audit and oversight committee, and that's important to note, i did that for a couple of years aired one of the key functions of the state controller is to perform an audit. i have in my background i'm a policymaker, so i have experience with understanding the budget, understanding how audits work, but also taking those audits and putting them in

mitt romney's father, as head of housing and urban development because romney's father wanted to be proactive in anti segregation efforts right. and so it was both the sort of coded racial appeals and the recognition that a lot of racial inequality would continue through inertia in our systems, through, you know, as segregated as the city of chicago is. and many of the problems that were created during the era of formal apartheid and in saying we refuse to dismantle that formal apartheid, we created, but we will say now the laws are neutral. i think you would call some of those euphemisms maybe euphemisms dog whistles, coded racial appeals, which you know, makes me realize even more how beautiful language can be, but also how it can be used in ugly, ugly ways, in certainly the words that we use use matter, but in in structural races, some words have been strategically used because people who use them understand how the receiver will receive them. and then, you know, continue to. play out whatever racist or prejudice that the speaker wants. civil rights was. well, let's talk about another term

this is the 2.0 of romney's bill and i'm sure 3.0 will be better. he made improvements and there are probably other flaws that could be further and his offices will improve it. we should be participating in those discussions. >> right. we also need to be talking about adoption. during those dobbs debate and there was a backlash against adoption and also against safe haven laws. we could talk for hours more, unfortunately we have a close in a moment, i'm sure we'll have more conversations about this in the coming days and weeks and months, really critical to make sure that, so often women are asked, they'd rather have, they'd rather choose abortion rather than knowing that they abandoned their child. meanwhile, there are so many couples struggling with infertility who would love to raise a child to a woman courageously, you know, gave birth to. so, so many human conversations we have to have and so many stories we have to tell about the pregnancy health centers and the maturity and you talk about mary's shelter in fredericksburg and each one of you w

i'm the, it's for the dental candidate mitt romney describes american leaderships expectations of i'm team of the sanctions on the russian economy. he was the here, the latest hearing of the senate foreign relations committee. i had the same sense that i'm hearing from both the chairman of the ranking member that we, that we have in our own minds overstated the impact of sanctions. the rubel is actually trading higher than it was before the, the war in global markets. if we cut off access to certain technologies that russia would want to purchase, they can find ways around it. and particularly if their friends are china and india . as we just heard romney singled out rushes, increasing opportunities with china on thursday. china is military defense. suppose 1st and announce and deepening of fatigue communication between the 2 countries. while trade between the pair is expected to have an old time record this year. at least for us to tell them longo, a do political and market. analysts says that ever since the 1st us sanctions was issued in 2014, they continue to boomerang. i felt this

one of the most curious developments is mitt romney's decision not to make an endorsement there. why won't he. >> reporter: well his explanation is he is friends with both. but as you could imagine, it is infuriated many people on the gop side literally because he's the only gop senator who hasn't endorsed mike lee. all that aside, or i should say they both have different views on president trump, romney and lee. all of that aside, though, lee didn't endorse romney back in 2018. it is closer that many expected. we'll see if this debate moves the needle. >> watching that closely. omar, thank you for your reporting. >>> to arizona's gubernatorial race now where the republican candidate said she will accept the results of the election, if she wins. kari lake still said she believes that the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump. this is what she had to say about her own race in an interview with dana bash. >> my question is will you accept the results of your election in november? >> i'm going to win the election and i will accept that result. >> if you lose, will you accept th

this was 2.0 over romney's bill. i'm sure 3.0 will be even better. he took into account criticism.got and he made improvements. they're probably other flaws that could be improved even further in his offices willing to continually improve it. we should be participating in those discussions. we also need to be talking about adoption during the dobbs debate and the oral arguments in particularly. there is a backlash against adoption. also again safe haven laws. um, we could talk for hours more. unfortunately. we have to close in a moment, but more conversations. i'm sure we'll have more conversations about this in the coming days and weeks and months really critical to make sure that you're so often women are asked they rather have. they rather choose abortion rather than knowing that they abandoned their child mean while there are so many couples struggling with infertility. who would love to raise a child to a woman courageously, you know gave birth to and so so many human conversations we have to have and and so many stories we have to tell about the pregnancy help centers and the

romney's team to prepare for the potential that romney could have won and obama on the way out. in 2016, actually did coordinate with both hillary clinton's team and with then candidates. trump's team. so there is law that requires this type of cooperation. the culture, washington up this year has been that there is a group of bipartisan officials that care about transitions deeply and that work to create an environment where a transition is seen as this kind of holy and very important part of of american democracy where the outgoing cooperates with incoming and so that's been the tradition it's the and hopefully that will happen in the future. can i just follow on that david? so my understanding is, are these kind of memoranda of understanding that the respective campaigns agreed to, right? and there are also these ethics laws that are in place to prevent know someone from i don't know coming in from a law and doing certain things on the campaign then going back to the law firm that kind of stuff. i don't know that any that's actionable is i what is the actual what is it there

romney and rubio are on the right side of the eye.there's no reason one on the left side of the aisle can embrace these bills. it should be a bipartisan act. you see this happening in states so texas got lots of media attention for the heartbeat bill. that same legislative session they allocated anadditional hundred million dollars to the texas sialternatives to abortion program . ron app signed into law the fatherhoodinitiative , a variety of states are doing both and. they're both prohibiting legal islands and providing support to mothers and providing incentives for family formation, for fathers to be involved in thelives of their children . to my mind the ultimate pro-life institution, the ultimate social justice institution. i think efforts have already been in the works. there ramping up and we should be working to make an even better. this is gthe 2.0 of romney's bill andi'm sure 3.0 will be even better . he made improvements, there are other flaws that could be improved further and his office is willing to continually improve

. >> and mitt romney the republican senator there as well has yet to pick a side in that senate race. reporting. i want to bring in the senior editor for the political reporter. you are the expert on these things and the landscapes in utah and oregon are quite different but what is the commonality between what the third-party candidates are trying to accomplish by bucking the party lines? >> they're playing a big role this year, peter. my assessment is that utah is not competitive. i don't buy that evan mcmullen is going to win a state that trump carried with 58% of the vote in 2020 and by 20 points over joe biden. the fact that democrats have embraced evan mcmullen gives the signal to most utah voters that he is more sympathetic to the anti-trump portion of the electorate. now, betsy johnson in oregon is another story. i do think republicans have an excellent chance to win oregon's governorship in part because johnson is a former democrat, splitting that vote, and the republican is running on a hard message against crime and homelessness. and then in georgia where you have a libertar

-- mitt romney in 2012 election. today in his retirement from the daily grind of campaigning, he is still working on election officials matter, including the election officials legal defense network, which defense elected officials from the threats and challenges that they are facing. we have got three excellent guest here. i want to start out with just the general thought about, what is on your mind about the election coming up. what are the big issues you see as things that the public should know on how to run elections, what things we might be doing well, or things we might need work on russian mark i will start with lori -- need to work on? i will start with lori. >> we have seen a lot of changes. i think the -- as legislators, i think it is important for voters to be familiar with the law changes, be sure you familiar familiarized yourself with the timeframe to mail your violent in. ballot in. the one thing i think became really apparent in 2020, is how varied election law is from state to state that can be very

okay you were on fox news days ago we played this clip reach out your fellow senator mitt romney also a republican course there utah for his endorsement. here's a little bit of the reaction for the "washington post" as romney aides irked by lee plea for highlighting gop divide in utah. here's what mcmullin says. >> i think it is shameful what i saw this week from senator lee. attacking our other senate we need two senators will work together. >> you did not endorse the late senator orrin hatch when he ran for reelection. you did not re- endorse sent ronnie and his primary pizza why should you get his endorsement now? >> first about i have always supported nominees for the u.s. senate in my party in the general election, always. and in this circumstance i am pleased i've got the endorsement of all 48 of my other republican colleagues in the senate. even susan collins and lisa we often disagree on a number of issues. and yet susan collins and lisa and every other republican senator have endorsed me i'm grateful for their support. look we are going to win this but we need help. we need h

watch. >> senator romney worked hard over the past 3 years. i think it's important.works with republicans and democrats, senator lee, to deliver for utah and voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill you voted against. >> tucker: right. if voters in utah want to elect a liberal democrat, another pete buttigieg and think that pete buttigieg's politics or mcmullin's represent the politics of the families of utah, do it. but don't lie. say who you are. you are a liberal democrat. that's the update from utah. we go to new york where something equally surprising is happening. something surprising in a good way. new york is an overwhelmingly democratic state. no republican will get elected governor of new york obviously. but this year a republican looks like he may be elected governor of new york. zeldin is running against kathy hochul. he was not elected but appointed. kathy hochul has made new york must more dangerous. robberies are up 34%. murders in the subway system are as high as they have been in a quarter century. that's the population of the center of the state

revenge you know and and also the outliers like liz cheney, adam kinzinger and mitt romney, not a lot of others, but, you know, there are examples of this which do me and sometimes when i speak a little bit to enthusiastic about how inspired i am by liz cheneys of the world, i kind get looked askance. you from people who say oh but about her father and the iraq war so forth or well, look what mitt romney did in 2012 when he was running against a i'm of the belief that it's never too late to do the right thing and to stand up for something as precious for it as democracy and you know i hope that things turn i have real doubts that the republican party at this moment has the fortitude and the will and frankly the courage to do anything about what they all consider privately to be the existential problem for their because it's not conservative, you know, it's been disastrous many ways. it could cost us dearly as a democracy and that sounds again i've been very encouraged that people seem to be laughing on every page. i think there's a lot of undermined ridicule, scorn towards a lot of th

mitt romney. and i think senator jason chaffetz sounds pretty good to me about now. >> here's what i do know, sean. i've got to get through this and i'm thrilled to have the endorsement of all 48 of my other republican colleagues in the senate. i'd always welcome mitt to the party if he would like to join. he and i have a good working relationship and that will continue even after this race is over. >> but i will say this. >> it would be a shame and utter shame if he lost the majority, the republican majority in the senate. the ability to serve as an effective counterbalance to joe biden's excesses is rampant inflation, which in utah, since the day he took office, has been at 16%. >> it'd be a shame if we lost that. if we elected a leftist named evan mcmullin. >> so i would encourage your viewers, viewers to go to leave for senate, .com and they're likely where we're supporting you. and i know the conservatives in utah will see through this. >> thank you. all right. also breaking tonight, even a d

we both knew mitt romney's governor with that he was an okay guy. don't think they present obama's going to get reelected. my father very quietly said they are both good men we are going to be fine. i thought my father after a lifetime of some pretty backward racial prejudicess could look at president obama and say they're both good men we are going to be fine. any of us can do that. >> this is your fourth book. this is my seventh book not sure people and spent a lot of time over the holidays reading about nuclear strategy. >> it had somee academic books that be a fair statement? >> were due for general readership absolutely. >> one more reveal you and i are the same age lamenting the loss of a pleasanter time on the things like tackle in my book is nostalgia which i think is very destructive wasn't crazy about my childhood in a factory town. sure one cup frogs of my cousins and allda that stuff. there's a lot of really bad stuff in those s days. we are not wrong to remember a more bipartisan time but it worked in senate 30 years ago. we would work

is this a situation where mitt romney wants to partner we have in the hopes they can control, no billnless it goes through them? that would make the case, i would argue, for republicans to have an overwhelming majority, a mitt romney-proof majority, if you will, for the u.s. senate. >> yes, yes. that's a great point. my opponent is using this as a selling point. i'll put utah first by being the decision-maker in everything. he's not putting utah fast. that's putting evan mcmullin first. there's a difference. if it quacks like a duck, walks a like a duck, that's a democrat. >> sean: that's a pretty good saying. how do you interpret that? >> i endorse mike lee. as a matter of fact, one of the questions we should answer right now is if you want to support mike lee, how do we do that? you go to leeforsenate.com. that's leeforsenate.com, associated with win red, which is for republicans. >> by the way, we are here for adam. i'm sure he has a website too. >> we'll get to that. >> sean, think about this, in 2020, losing a single seat in georgia cost the american taxpayers $4 trillion. covid

remarks, but the romney campaign did not ask mourdock to pull down a tv ad romney taped.oe donnelly would go on to win that race. asking you, do debates matter? if you say yes, (202) 748-8000. if you say no, (202) 748-8001. we go to south dakota. doug, good morning. caller: good morning. i watched noem and jamie smith -- jamie smith is a democrat and kristi noem is a republican who kind of followed donald trump around. that was a good debate. if you ask me, i think jamie smith won that. i believe in both parties. both parties got ideas. i should be an independent, but it is too hard to vote up here independent. but that debate was a pretty good one. noem, she is in trouble, because she used the state plane to follow trump around, i believe, and she got in trouble over that. also, she gave favor to her daughters or whatever. but i watched that debate between green last night, too. all she does is uses talking points, you know. and there is really no debate about it. host: you are talking about the democratic candidate winning that debate that you were referring to. what do

why hasn't romney endorsed? >> mike lee defeated the incumbent senator who was a very conservative republican. i can't remember if it was a balanced budget. they get to start thinking about the voting booth and what power they want trolling the senate. utah is still a very republican state. i think it will be a close race then you would expect. people will likely decide for the republican. as far as the mitt romney component, i'm sure mitt romney finds it hilarious that this guy who used to torch him, how dare you not endorse? the advantage of being a quarter billionaire is not caring. he's been diligent here of ron. -- he's been just diligent here, right here. >> do you get the sense that there is a silent majority out there in the privacy of the voting booth may infect reject the doctrine? >> i didn't hear the last part. >> i guess the democratic anti-dobbs. >> in kansas there were 220,000 voters that didn't vote on anything except the referendum. what's going on? >> i am skeptical there is a big group out the

why hasn't romney endorsed?> mike lee defeated the incumbent senator who was a very conservative republican. i can't remember if it was a balanced budget. they get to start thinking about the voting booth and what power they want controlling the senate. utah is still a very republican state. i think it will be a close race then you would expect. people will likely decide for the republican. as far as the mitt romney component, i'm sure mitt romney finds it hilarious that this guy who used to torch him, how dare you not endorse? the advantage of being a quarter billionaire is not caring. he's been diligent here of ron. -- he's been just diligent here, right here. >> do you get the sense that there is a silent majority out there in the privacy of the voting booth may in fact reject the doctrine? >> i didn't hear the last part. >> i guess the democratic anti-dobbs. >> in kansas there were 220,000 voters that didn't vote on anything except the referendum. what's going on? >> i am skeptical there is a big group out t

so here with me is kevin madden, who is mitt romney's presidential campaign, also cnn political commentator scott jennings and nina turner, who was co-chair of bernie sanders 2020 better than the pain. i know you guys are thinking, wait, i went to the politics for this? guess. yes he wanted, because this is really happening, okay? elementary school kids are not peeing in litter boxes, okay? scott, that's not happening. >> why are you addressing me? i've litter -- i've been defending this new york panel all night. we're harlem globetrotters. the other panel is the washington general. >> you're wasting time! politicians are falling for this. there's a republican gubernatorial candidate in minnesota who you just heard is falling for this. there's another one in colorado is falling for this. how are they so gullible? >> it says a lot about how people process information in a very hyper partisan world, right? i mean, like, one of the things that's the hardest thing about combating this information, or disinformation, is just how strongly people want to believe it when it confirms a prior worldvi