how about this today from ron paul?ng points memo" today interviewing a pastor, the ron paul iowa campaign recently touted as a paul supporter. the supporter's name, robert fazier of the dominion church. turns out reverend cazer, praising his enlightening statements and support for ron paul. this guy also believes homosexuality in the united states should not just be outlawed but the punishment for being gay should be execution in the united states of america. how is that for small government? the ron paul campaign so far refusing to comment on tpm's reporting on this. so far, at least as far as we can tell, the ron paul campaign making no efforts to distance themselves from their kill the gays supporter who they've been touting. if there's a big picture story to tell about iowa a week out, it's a story of constant motion, desperation and chaos. yay. the bottom line today is probably ultimately the same bottom line you would have had a year ago today. for all of the ups and downs and headlines and gaffes and scandals, -

>>eric: he started the interview saying that he has been a ron paul fan and he wanted to work for ron paul but he came to you and decided to work for you and i am wondering if all along he was forking for ron paul and had his eyes on working for ron paul, what a terrible time to leave your campaign. if anything, i commend you for being stand up, you have worked so hard in iowa and for this to happen now. >> i think the best about people and i know that he had a lot of support from ron paul people when he ran for the state senate and they were just disheartened when he went to work with me early. but honestly, i think this is an opening the reason paul campaign people saw and they saw after the fox debate, i picked ron paul apart on the dangerous foreign policies concerns and his viewpoint and this is what this is about. it is unbelievable the traction we have had since the debate, literally thousands of people switching and coming to my side, and, so, next, ron paul and i share about 50 percent of the youth vote. that is a very important vote for ron paul, and he is trying a last minu

ron paul. the one we've been looking for. >> what do you like about him? >> about ron paul? yeah. >> what is there not to like about him? military, i came from indiana. i was raised on principles and morals. and go back 5, 10, 20, 30 years, ron paul has had the same, consistent message, something none of the other candidates can fake. message on principles, morals, our personal rights, our personal liberties, restricted government that keeps out of our pockets, out of our lives. something the government was never meant to do. our founding fathers were very specific about that. >> how old are you? >> 23. >> what do your friends say? >> most of them, i don't have friends many my age because most of them i'm kind of distant because i'm in politics, i'm a little above the age level. most the kids my age are worried about college, worried about what club to go to tomorrow night, not about their future. >> ron paul speaks to you. >> yes. >> you got up and said he's the only one. >> yes, sir, absolutely. >> what's the attraction? >> because he follows the constitution. that, for me

he got into it on mitt romney, he got into it on ron paul. he was a lot tougher on ron paul.m, you know, would you be able to vote for mitt romney but i didn't, the clock was ticking, and i knew he would say, yes, i would vote for mitt romney but no way he's going to vote for ron paul. >> he made that pretty clear. >> yeah, he says, look, ron paul's not going to get the nomination. i said hypothetically if he were to get the nomination would you support him. his answer a flat-out no. >> you're interviewing mitt romney tomorrow. is there one question you're looking forward to asking romney? >> well, i'm going to play for him -- they'll have overnight, i'm sure his aides will tell him -- i'm going to play what newt gingrich said and give him a chance to respond and ask him, does he have the guts, does he have the courage to sit down one-on-one with newt gingrich and debate these issues 90 minutes without a moderator? i pointed out to newt gingrich, you know, they've had more than a dozen debates. they've been on the stage together. they've been very close to each other if not r

they said about ron paul. ron paul is a dangerous man.s domestic libertarian views are quite attractive to some voters fed up with politics as usual, it's paul's position on issues of national security that are truly dangerous. it's about time new hampshire voters showed him the door. it seems to me that the new hampshire ron paul supporter may be at the fringe. appealable to some other camps. but who is the most likely beneficiary of defections from ronç paul's camp? i think you have to say huntsman or really anybody. let's not forget the new hampshire model is live free or die. liz libertarian stance has an appeal in that way there. but han has proven itself to be famously impervious to whatever happens in iowa. so i think it will be interesting to watch. and christina's point is well taken that new hampshire is really his only hope at this point. of all the candidates remaining in the field he must be wondering why he hasn't been able to get more traction avenue all the on paper qualifications. it hasn't worked for him. >> thank you b

i'm ron smith. >> ron smith spent most of his life with the wbal family, first as a tv new anchor on our old action news team between 1973 and 1980. >> those against, well, they say it is just another scheme to yank still more cash. >> then after a brief break from broadcasting to work as a stockbroker, ron returned to wbal radio in 1985 to begin a whole new journey as a talk- show host. >> there were able with our technology to bomb from far away, which is what they do. >> never a screamer, ron succeeded by staying on top of local and national politics. and standing firm on his principlees, even if his listeners didn't agree. a former marine, ron opposed both wars in iraq. >> a war of choice that, like many wars, hasn't gone as planned. >> and this year criticized the u.s. action in libya. billed a conservative, he had no problem picking on both political parties. in the 2008 presidential race, he called john mccain too angry to be trusted. hillary clinton, he thought, saw goverment as the ultimate nanny. and barack obama, ron asked -- what is beneath all the fervor? adding, it's ha

i talked to ron paul voters in 2007 who liked barack obama and liked ron paul. i was one of those voters. once they were disappointed by what barack obama did in office, they've remained in his camp. if you talk to young people at rallies, you'll hear a lot -- the first things they'll list off, the reasons they go for him, are the social issues. then they'll list the economic crisis issues. they come over to his side the way they could have easily been convinced. you're at that age where you're receptive to ideas like that. he's added those people to the party. i think also because the economy collapsed in 2008, because he'd been predicting it for so long, doesn't really matter if he was wrong in previous instances, you know. the preachers who predict the rapture are ever right, are we going to forget they got it wrong 20 times? that happened to him. people in the republican party disagree with him on a lot of issues became more sympathetic to him. the coalition in iowa is partly the new voters and partly old-line conservatives who would have listened to him bef

. >> ron paul may win this whole thing. >> if the weather is bad and it's real tough to get out, ron paul will win. >> and moderate primary, gingrich and romney are scrumming for. >> newt's new tact,'s attacking mitt romney as a massachusetts moderate. >> he's trying to come down and pretend to be a conservative. >> i believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country. >> speaker gingrich is a desperate candidate. >> he has more baggage than the airlines. >> newt gingrich did not make the ballot in virginia. >> three folks who are running as strong conservatives. >> gun todting is santorum. >> shotguns for christmas. >> we need a solution. >> that's the reason i call for a part-time congress. >> no republican has won the hearts and minds of the republican base. >> where is tim pawlenty right now? because he would be the guy you turn to. >>> today was a good day for the obama re-election campaign. but it was a tough day for the democratic party. the good news for the obama campaign is that the republicans running for president continue top savage each other. newt gingrich is sa

ron paul story. she was talking about foreign policy. >> foreign policy. >> he wants to abolish the fed, abolish income taxes, cut $1 trillion from spending, wants to abolish half the government departments. >> when you start talking domestic, i'm all about ron paul. >> you are not all about ron paul. you put up a great fight, but you are not. >> it goes on with a testy exchange on the air that shows that maybe he is beginning to feel the heat we speak of. >> and also, people wanted ron paul to be examined in the media. >> and they're looking. >> they are looking. there were some comments made, racist comments in news letters which he profited from. >> well. >> and that were written in his voice and that he previously claimed authorship of some, although we don't know which. so there's a little ambiguity, he's denying he had anything to do with the ones that said that gays were trying to poison the blood supply with aids. he's saying he didn't write that, we don't know, because a few years ago he was

is ron paul.ele bachmann commented on that. and joanne, i want to play this for you and get your response. >> he'd have a lot of difficulty voting for him, ron paul won't be the nominee, i will be the nominee of our party. he won't win the nomination, i will. >> she's not the only one to say that they would not vote for ron paul if he were the nom flee. >> ron paul has always had a problem within the republican ç establishment. michele bachmann is part of the establishment. ron paul's foreign policy is very much against what the republican party has stood for, he's considered looney to them. if he wins, let's say the iowa caucuses and michelle doesn't get completely pushed out, you have so many people in it can only help romney. >> we're starting to see this get ugly, though, certainly. newt going negative, more words of zany, crazy, circus. will this hurt the gop as we see all this infight something. >> i think it depends on how long it gets stretched out. if it's wrapped up in january, this who

ron paul. he is unwilling to stand up for the united states when it comes to dealing with a nuclear iran. >> you guys were arguing over questions of fact, whether or not there was -- >> there was an iaea report issued in november that said iran was perilously close to having the technology for a nuclear weapon. i sit on the intelligence committee, we deal with the nation's classified secrets. i cannot talk about a lot of that. >> we have ways to make you talk. >> no, you don't. there is a clear report that iran is perilously close to having a nuclear weapon. ron paul was essentially denying that the report exists. then he said the report was not worth anything later. the whole point is, ron paul would be a dangerous precedent for the united states. he has frightening views on foreign policy. after that debate, it was like an electric lights which went on across iowa. we began our tour in that area. the next day, that was all people wanted to talk about. we had more people come out to our meetin

about, is that ron paul is in a position -- i talked to folks here who like ron paul and see him asis bold and trying to take on washington and clean things up and shrink the size of the federal government. not just here in iowa but across the country. you need to get congress to work with him to do those things and there is not a long record of passing anything in washington, d.c. but when it comes to national security, people who like him and are concerned about, you know, not really crazy about his national security but we're not that worried we like him on this other stuff. the problem is, as you know in the constitution, the president's powers are really in the security. >> are you worried that he might be dangerous? >> my concern is that they will pull him back to this country and he can do that day one without congressional approval, without any oversight and move our troops from europe to the middle east and that's something he can do and that's one of the reasons i think you see a lot of folks having second thoughts about putting him in a position where he can be -- >> he o

you know ron paul is pretty amazing in his uniqueness as a candidate running on the g.o.p. . bill the thing is with with iran it's not so much the man as it is the ideas he didn't have very much charisma he's he's rather old compared to some of his contenders so when people like myself are were looking at iran in two thousand and eight we saw a french candidate but as time began to pass and we start to see some of the things that he spoke about on the two thousand a g.o.p. debate stage the economic collapse that was looming especially in the housing market as well as the dilution of the u.s. dollar by the federal reserve it began to ring true i think with more and more people who consider themselves to be mainstream like myself that maybe this guy isn't so crazy as as we were actually thought maybe we just haven't looked into things as deeply as we should and as you mentioned what's fascinating is here we have the the old if candidate garnering much of the youth about i want to show this clip here's what ron paul had to say a while back about this phenomenon. the question is

where he questioned ron paul's judgment and wisdom. >> you took a pretty good crack at ron paul in thereyet he's polling well in the very state that you've been in every county. >> oh, he's been here too. he's been here for like three elections or four elections. >> you're you whacked him pretty good on the question of the straits of hormuz and the volley verbally back and forth with iran and the united states right now. how do you calculate his support in this state? >> people are upset. i mean, he's sort of the zeitgeist candidate. i get it. but the people of iowa i believe and the people of this country are going to step back and say, you know, what's the right course to put the person up against barack obama who's going to present the contrast that is most likely to get the big problems in this country solved? and the big problem in this country is not a military that has grown out of proportion.ç 50 years ago the military took up 60% of the budget. it now takes up 20%. it is not the reason we're in a deficit situation. >> ron paul and mitt romney lead santorum in the latest polls.

i'm ron smith. >> ron smith spent most of his life with the wbal family, first as a tv new anchor on our old action news team between 1973 and 1980. >> those against, well, they say it is just another scheme to yank still more cash. >> then after a brief break from broadcasting to work as a stockbroker, ron returned to wbal radio in 1985 to begin a whole new journey as a talk- show host. >> they were able with our technology to bomb from far away, which is what they do. >> never a screamer, ron succeeded by staying on top of local and national politics, and standing firm on his principlees, even if his listeners didn't agree. a former marine, ron opposed both wars in iraq. >> a war of choice that, like many wars, hasn't gone as planned. >> and this year criticized the u.s. action in libya. billed a conservative, he had no problem picking on both political parties. in the 2008 presidential race, he called john mccain too angry to be trusted. hillary clinton, he thought, saw goverment as the ultimate nanny. and barack obama, ron asked -- what's beneath all the fervor? adding, it's hard

what if you have ron paul win?that point, i think -- the people just sort of shake their head. >> i like to come in second in new hampshire. i think it's hard to beat romney in new hampshire.ç it will be fun. >> either win iowa or new hampshire? >> south carolina. >> every one who has won south carolina has been the nominee. >> he had this response last late night about those eroding numbers from that cnn poll sf. >> what about the new poll out today? >> well, one word of warning, by the way, on this cnn poll, they didn't poll independents and democrats, they used a listless base sampling there. could it overshow candidates doing better than republicans and not noting the support of nontraditional republican voters, overstating a rick santorum who performs better among rank and file republicans. we'll find out. some big polls coming out, including our poll out tomorrow. >>> ron paul's spokesman responded this way, saying it's a too small a sample to be very accurate. romney was caught on a rope line after one of s

gwen: ron paul, we have to ask you about ron paul. there's some possibility he could even best mitt romney on tuesday night. how strong is he now in iowa? then how much can he use that as leverage to get another leg up in new hampshire? >> you know, i've been surprised at some of the people i have run into at ron paul's events. four years ago they were sort of this kind of hard core libertarian crowd. but this year i have run into evangelicals and homeschoolers. i think his appeal this year is somewhat broader than it has been and also as ken sorenson, michele bachmann's recently departed campaign chairman as he was joining ron paul forces, he said these people who support ron paul, it doesn't matter if there's five feet of snow on the ground caucus night, which thankfully it does not look like there will be, these people are going to show up. gwen: intensity, jeff? >> i think there is intensity, no question. the only question for ron paul is what is his ceiling of support? you hear every other candidate, really every single candidate

this is from the ron paul report in 1992. "if you live in a major city you've probably already heard about the newest threat to your life and limb and your family, carjacking. it is the hip-hop thing to do among the urban youth, who play unsuspecting whites like pianos. what can you do? more and more americans are carrying a gun in the car. an ex-cop i know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately through the classifieds, for example. i frankly don't know what to make of such advice, but even in my little town of lake jackson, texas, i've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self-defense. for the animals are coming." the "new republic" a few years ago also unearthed this gem from the ron paul newsletters on the subject of foreign affairs. the end of apartheid's white rule in south africa described in a ron paul newsletter as "a destr

i don't think this will come down to a battle between romney and ron paul because i don't think ron paul is seen as a credible nominee for the party. there will be an alternative to romney that is other than ron paul. we don't know whether it will be gingrich or perry or somebody else. >> i was talking about iowa, not long temperature. >> ifill: what is not credible about ron paul? his foreign policy? >> there's a ceiling on ron paul particularly on foreign policy. but also on some cultural issues. drugs and the like. his support is very intense. it's very deep. it's just not very wide. he's the kind of person who can get every single ron paul supporter out to the caucuses on, as they say, a cold, snowy winter night. that makes him a force in iowa. but in terms of breadth in other states, it just isn't there. but let me just say this, susan. you're picking a fight with me. if ron paul finishes first or second, he becomes a very complicating factor for others in the race, particularly other than mitt romney. romney would be, i think, rather happy or at least contented if ron paul happens

ron had been using it rather ideally as a pig pen.old stone foundation was to be the location of her husband's murder. the plan, jaime was to lure ron to the pig pen, hit him from behind, load his body into his old suburban and roll it off the side of this mountain road, known by the locals as chili bar. of all the miles of winding road around ron's little farm, this was the perfect spot to stage an accident. you see that s curve where the truck is coming around the hill over there? there is no protective barrier. a car can go right down into the valley, hundreds of feet below. and just over here, behind that berm, is the only place along this road which is perfect for hiding a getaway car. on june 24th, 2008, patty went shopping with jaime for shoes and coveralls in case the killing got messy. that afternoon patti took jaime to a use d ought 0 owe lot and bought him a used getaway car, a 2003 green hyundai. afterwards, patti went to dinner with family as jaime returned to ron's place. >> her alibi was being with her daughter and gran

paul could win and i would because of his organization there so does a ron paul win in iowa then leave the door open for romney to win new hampshire and make this and easy run through the primaries by contrast mitt romney has a massive and sprawling organization and then there's ron paul who is right there in the top tier in many polls that are statistically tied for a three way conversation with randy and gingrich. all right so that's right ron paul is now in the number one spot on i with twenty three percent of likely republican caucus voters behind him in the latest poll i know that we talk about this all the time how the media barely gives this man any coverage but here it just becomes so much more blatantly obvious he's number one in the poll and they either really just quickly kind of glaze over that and then move on to the other candidates and what this means for their campaigns or they just don't even mention paul and instead only talk about newt gingrich and mitt romney i mean it's just absurd especially if you think about the way the mainstream media had a collective heart at

i think asset of mitt romney now is ron paul and i'm sure they're go, ron, go! >> i don't think it's ron paul's intention, but he is serving the republican establishment that wants to slow or stop newt gingrich. if ron paul wins in iowa, everybody will say isn't that nice? but he won't be nominee. there are two things you can say about ron paul, though. he is consistent, and he is principled. and once you understand those principles, you understand how he can be for legalizing marijuana and for not doing everything possible to stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. he believes in virtually no government. he would dismantle the current government by 80%. he is a libertarian. >> what about the conservatives establishment? we've heard about the republican establishment. you can speak to that. as a matter of fact, you could reflect on the cover of your magazine, which i'm putting on screen now. that's a caricatures of newt gingrich. >> it. >> what is he saying? >> marvin the martian. we think he's just such a high risk nominee, for not enough reward he would becom

ron paul running on a ticket not worth. a warmonger as hillary clinton is who cackled wildly when we were watching videos of our proxies in libya was she orchestrated executing khadafi but let's. synods i wouldn't trust him with a commonly but he has impeccable credentials when it comes to the constitution and our foreign policy. and a lot of staying on foreign policy i do want to play two sound bites for you one is from ron paul and another is from russian prime minister vladimir putin will compare and contrast this idea that we can be the policemen of the world and settle all these disputes i mean soon we'll have to quit because flat broke but we cannot continue to get into these issues like this and and getting ourselves into more trouble you know they made up their mind on afghanistan and what did they discuss the mission with their own eyes in advance they carried out their strike and we started pulling in other forces saying it was not with us is against us we'd like to be allies with the united states but what i see