that's a fair appraisal of what we just heard of ron paul pretty much i used to work with cars when ron paul used to work in the united states congress and ron paul is known as dr no because there is never a spending bill that he like he is against all government spending what is wrong possible what is wrong with that ok what's that isn't what you know everything you've heard about ron paul on this program sounds attractive i'm sorry i'm not going to vote for anybody in this election ok i don't vote but you know everything we've heard here what's wrong with ron paul in. well there are a number of things wrong with ron paul first of all a lot of americans like government spending the vesa driver americans like social security they like medicare they like their highways they like their bridges they like a lot of things government provides from libraries to schools to all the other things government does and ron paul pretty consistently doesn't want any government to do anything he also by the way is forest with republicans on foreign policy in fact his foreign policy probably will closely

a low in welcome across dark i'm peter lavelle the candidates the of ron paul what makes him tick why is he so popular among younger voters why do republicans sneer at him while at the same time fear him and those mainstream media fairly cover his campaign big. ticket. to cross talk the republican candidate ron paul i'm joined by mark williams in sacramento he is founder and former chairman of the tea party express and radio host in washington we have mark levine he is a senior fellow with the truman national security project and a talk radio host and in new york we have michael brandon dowdy he is politics editor at business insider i've gentlemen this is crossfire that means you can jump in any time you want last week we did a program on mitt romney and i got a ton of mail saying what no one mentioned ron paul once and i thought maybe i'm doing the same thing that american media is doing to ron paul so michael first of all explain to my international viewers who is ron paul what is he all about and if there were an election on you tube why would he win. well ron paul is a libertaria

well joining me to discuss ron paul's popularity among young voters is mary wells said areas of ron paul supporter and volunteer organizer for the ron paul los angeles liberty headquarters nice to see you mary so ron paul he hasn't won a single caucus yet but he is not giving up is he and i there is fans. no he's not giving up we're only halfway through this and ron paul is in this to win this and actually it's incorrect liz he did win the caucus in the virgin islands and since then in many other states he's had the strongest showing as far as delegates are concerned and we know that that's what actually wins the race now at this point mary many people would say that paul ron paul is likely if not likely that he's going to make it to the white house and if that ends up being the case what is next for ron paul and his followers and this whole movement well like i said we're only halfway through this lives and ron paul is not giving up and neither are the people giving up on him. as you just saw and showed you know the crowds are growing three to five thousand or five you know are showing

there was no way ron was not going to get back on that motorcycle. >> but ron has a new worry.onditions don't look good. >> it's all broken up. i don't like this. >> gets kind of squirrelly. >> track conditions would definitely be better. >> but ron's not about to back down. he's ready to get back on the bike and do what it is he does best -- break records. >> i'm in a cautious state of mind. i made some changes on the motorcycle. but still a little bit of nervousness there. there always is after a crash. you've got to get back on the saddle and do it again. i'm just optimistically cautious. >> as ron prepares his bike, mark is manning his camera midway down the track. >> i always want to make sure i get a shot of ron. because he is the fastest thing on two wheels. i heard over the radio that ron was taking off from the start line. so i immediately grabbed my camera, and aimed. and almost immediately he went into the high-speed wobble. >> mark's seen that wobble before, and he knows what's coming. as the camera rolled, ron's bike hits the loose dirt on the track. instantly ron

of the libertarian ron paul become the fourteenth floor you know hold. so mary why would there be it after it's a silence why what is the motive behind ignoring him. exactly as i mentioned you know ron paul you know he's not the establishment candidate he does not represent the things that. benefit these big corporate core pot corporate government sponsored organizations and the corporatocracy you know ron paul is the exact opposite he's the patriot for the people and you know that's why they don't give him any coverage because he actually can win they like to misreport on his delegate when they like to misreport on his caucus wins in the size of them so you know nobody gave him any cracking credit for winning the caucus in the virgin islands and that's just and say so if they want to call mitt romney the winner for winning eight delegates in the virgin islands and i guess that we can call ron paul the winner in maine is out of colorado where he took all the delegates now it's already earlier we played a clip there of ron paul he was raising suspicion of

from the republican primary coverage and media outlets certainly aren't the only ones on the plug on ron paul so why is the establishment so afraid of this dark horse and how low are they willing to go to kill his campaign. if you like we are living it in your words your government and it's awful because at least i'm pleased is like the middle east you know. you do know that you're living in a dictatorship you know the earlier we can hear the words you know like. quick to criticize others and even quicker to arrest its own dissidents the u.s. government sure doesn't practice what it preaches when it comes to the right to assemble we'll show you just how the first amendment is about to be muzzled. it's thursday march fifteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching our team. well it's not just occupiers and rage at wall street these days wall street's own are calling out the greed and corruption that plagues financial firms today an op ed written by a mid-level goldman sachs again is that executive is sure it's been making its rounds on wall street offices former

but here to tell me all about this ron paul mania traced in that co-founder ron paul swagg dot com welcome try so he hasn't won a caucus yet but he and his supporters don't seem to be giving up. that's right you know ron has been a very strong candidate so we're doing a movement supporting a whole way of thinking in the way of thinking is not going away so you know whether or not he. has going to the straw polls isn't going to slow down any of the fervor that is being built up around this campaign now address at this point we're getting later and later on in the nomination process here and it's doesn't look like he will make it to the white house so if he doesn't let's next for ron paul supporters. well i think that rum polls support really is about the ideas about liberty it's about the philosophy of applying freedom in every part of your life especially in your philosophical relationship with each other and extinct of the government so when we look at rumpole book in two thousand and eight and now again in two thousand well he's a candidate of ideas candidate of. issues and he brings mor

race to the finish or sold of mainstream media and the establishment what have you believe you are ron paul is still polling in the crowds and the votes but what the media blackout. feel like we're living in there we're here in government and it's awful because at least in places like the middle east you know . you you know that you're living in a dictatorship you know that you're living and it's sort of you know like. and yet this land of the free might only be intended for those who are brave enough to be arrested while exercising their first amendment rights there unless david seaman will tell us why we might have to stop protesting altogether. it's thursday march fifteenth seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching r.t. well the army private accused of looking hot leaking hundreds of thousands of secret military documents appeared in court this morning prosecutors today said bradley manning aided al qaeda documents to the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks handing out days as a slew of charges including aiding the enemy but that enemy was not names until tod

no it won't actually arrived with since ron paul unlike the other candidates does stand for a set of ideas that people are passionate about and you saw this in two thousand and eight as well as long as ron paul still wants to be in there fighting and as long as ron paul is still asking his people to support him he'll be able to do that i do want to add however that santorum so bizarre rise and ability to keep winning states complicate that narrative entirely a lot of ron paul's hopes early in the season relied on the notion that being rich and santorum would be knocked out pretty quickly by romney and that didn't happen which is why things have not been as bright for politicians have been i think looking at what happened in virginia yesterday is an interesting sign of what this race might have been like if those two had disappeared ron paul actually got forty one percent of the vote in virginia the state nearest the beltway which again well it doesn't add up to a victory in the presidential race is a very encouraging sign for what paul and his ideas can and will mean for the republic

caucus states are important to ron paul.as a real place where he had the potential for a victory and it didn't happen. i think that's got to be a disappointment for the poll people. but heading into super tuesday now, mitt romney in ohio. again, that's the big crown jewel of super tuesday, is outspending rick santorum. mitt romney and his super pac i should say. outspending rick santorum 4 to 1. he comes in with momentum, he comes in with money. he's going to raise more money after this. you know, you have to say the obvious. >> he's got momentum, hilary, going into tuesday. >> he does. because he has a significant financial advantage, the stakes are higher for him. you know, the fact that santorum and gingrich are still ahead in a significant portion of these super tuesday states means there's still a nagging dissatisfaction with mitt romney and the fact that he is spending maybe 5 to 1 means that he's going to underperform if he doesn't win the states. >> he doesn't wrap anything yet but he's moving certainly in the rye di

bates' about whether mitt romney lost by winning six states on super tuesday there's no disputing that ron paul had a bad night by winning zero so is that if the trucks as congressman well not quite stay tuned for a look at why. good evening it's wednesday march seventh pm here in washington d.c. from lucy catherine of and you're watching our t.v. well we begin today in syria where an end to the violence is seemingly nowhere in sight and the government of president bashar al assad seems on the able to regain control of the country the opposition groups are too weak and too fragmented to overthrow his regime and they made this bloody stalemate a debate right here in the united states about whether this country should intervene a lot of talk but still no consensus on the costs and benefits of entangling the united states in another armed conflict in testimony before the senate today the defense secretary leon panetta seemed to be cautious about intervention but also didn't rule it out. we are reviewing all possible additional steps that can be taken with our international partners to support

and ron paul supporters are fighting back sick of their candidate always being treated as a second string player in this political contacts as a republican field narrows all broad poll ever at ten ten or respect you deserve. it's tuesday march twentieth five pm here in washington d.c. and was well you're watching arts. well an executive order signed by president obama has sparked controversy on both sides of the political aisle the national defense resources preparedness executive order was signed quietly friday night it gives the president the power to control u.s. resources and times of war and peace and this includes food water or oil and transportation now some are concerned this could lead to the executive branch having absolute authority over the nation's resources and others question if this is all a preparation to go to war with iraq here is white house press secretary jay carney is answer to that question at a press conference. with the it's. not exactly a reaction to it i think it was a fairly. standard in which. piece of business. so is this just business as usual or does it gi

it wasn't the ron paul folks who were breaking the rules here it was the g.o.p. party a stablish ment's and happily the ron paul popes stood up for themselves it was good to see but then they get angry and then they turns out that they get the ammonites for for causing trouble. well they get demonized yes but again that's not their fault that might be the media's fault the corporate media's thought for reporting it that way but the nice thing is we have the video we can see exactly what happened we can see the leader of the ron paul folks brant stafford being arrested by state police out in the parking lot after they had shut down this caucus without holding their votes without doing anything you can see when he was arrested you can see that he was doing absolutely nothing when he was handcuffed and hauled away and if ron follow ron paul folks are furious about this frankly they have every right to be and i should also add by the way this is not an isolated incident what happened out there in st charles county missouri we also saw it in clay county missouri we al

it keeps ron paul alive. late in the evening, shep, long after the primaries of tonight are resolved, we will still be watching the caucus states. alaska, idaho, north dakota. those are places where ron paul could pick up delegates and be a significant force. could be a pretty late night for those. all in all, the bottom line is most accounts say that romney will get most of the delegates tonight. the question is whether or not it will solidify the perception that he has got the nomination at least on track to win it. or whether there might be some increased momentum for his two challengers, the anti-romney alternatives looking for that conservative vote which is pronounced, it's out there, and hasn't been persuaded by romney's candidacy yet. >> shepard: it certainly hasn't. carl, stay with us if you would. i want to bring in chris wallace on your local fox station. chris a couple of things, first of all the republicans, the establishment at least would very much like to have the republic candidates stop beat

ron paul. >> who are you supporting and why? >> newt gingrich. i think he is very experienced. i think maybe the reason he is not a favorite in the republican party is because he a renegade. >> rick santorum because he is a social conservative. >> one more. >> he is genuine. he is for real. >> months of this conversation, in some cases years because we have two candidates that have run before. new hampshire, one of mitt romney's most important surrogates, what message do you have to for them why romney should be the nominee? >> we need to beat barack obama in november. >> do you agree with that? >> yes! >> mitt romney is the candidate that can beat barack obama, we need somebody who has been outside of washington and who actually has the private sector experience, that knows how jobs are created and the private sector is right now. we don't need a washington insider. we need someone that knows how to fix problems. he has done that both in the private sector. in the olympics and it's not easy to

." >> ron brook had more than one reason to fear for his life. with crimes against women are often targets for violence. >> i don't have a crime i can brag about because i'm in here for killing a girl. >> but ronald brook is about to put his life on the line. he's joined a controversial peer therapy group at solano where inmates admit their crimes to each other. >> i just want to reiterate, and there's no need to reiterate it anymore after this, remember, we need to follow the ground rules and respect each other, maintain confidentiality at all costs and be as open as we can. and trust the process. >> many of the men in the group have never shared their stories with other inmates. earlier, shawn mefford shared his story with the group. he explained how a lifetime of abandonment and reckless behavior led to a crime that took decades to admit. a crime against a woman. this week's session is focused on the past. the counselors ask each of the inmates to go as far back as they can remember. now, ron brook must tell his story. >> i grew up in the san

we will continue to monitor ron paul's address.er in the evening we will hear from other candidates as well. let's take a look at close look at ohio right now with the polls closed in ohio a few moments ago. we have 1% of the vote in, in ohio and so far, very, very early, and mitt romney with a lead, and these are official votes. 39% to 37% for rick santorum, but look at how small the numbers are so far. 1,837 for prrm mitt romney and 1,767 for rick santorum. and he is only ahead by 70 votes right now, and so we will see what happens, but only less than 1% of the vote is in, and 16% for newt gingrich, and 7% for ron paul. we are taking a closer look at ohio. ohio is a key battleground and politically, it is a major bonanza for whoever wins ohio tonight. we saw the exit polls, john king, and the exit polls earlier suggesting a slight advantage for mitt romney in ohio and not long ago that the polls in ohio showed that santorum is ahead, but mitt romney has been spending, and the super pac, and his own campaign and ton of money spent

ron paul the most. >> right. ron paul, as i'll repeat myself, continues to underperform his polling and never won. we've always heard this is a state where he's outorganized everybody and never happens. the interesting thing for mitt romney is because all these guys hang in the race, almost 60% of the voters in every contest choose somebody else. however, rick santorum had to stop mitt romney in washington or he has to stop hip in ohio or his surge is over with and he has no chance to be the alternative to mitt romney. we have talked a lot about how momentum in this race is easily reversed and redirected. the timing now is critical because while you had voters strongly resisting that romney is along this process for many years now, he's running for president for six years, early in the primary season, want to go make a statement and in south carolina, that was an historic statement that they refused to pick the nominee and they voted for newt gingrich who is not going to be the nominee. that was a huge moment. >>

military officials whole warre a necessary evil for ron paul bags to differ on the aftermath of a tragedy at the hands of a rogue us soldier two questions looming over operations in afghanistan why are we still there and how we created more problems than we've helped to solve. and there's been some research than they did about two point two million votes were lost in two thousand and eight do voter registration problems. you know the saying every vote counts that might not be totally inaccurate in the u.s. we'll show you how ineffective the voting process really is. and speaking of election reformation several states think they may have a solution for voter fraud in the form of voter identification cards a well this really solve the problem or is it a way to stop democratic voters from getting the ballot box to be. it's tuesday march thirteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching r t well the u.s. has apologized for the shooting rampage in afghanistan that killed sixteen people many of them women and children and thirty eight year old staff sergeant is now und

the republican primary coverage and media outlets certainly aren't the only ones pulling the plug on ron paul so why is the establishment so afraid of this star course and how low are they willing to go to kill his campaign and feel like we are living in the words near you government and it's awful because at least in places like the middle east you know they you know the are living in a dictatorship you know that you're living in its origin you know like. quick to criticize others and even quicker to arrest its own dissidents the u.s. government sure doesn't practice what it preaches when it comes to the right to assemble we'll show you just how the first amendment as a balance of the muslims. plus twenty two months in jail twenty two charges against him no trial date set and sparse media coverage in the case of private first class bradley manning is on lockdown these days as the alleged wiki leaks or heads to court today why is this case so shrouded in so much secrecy. it's thursday march fifteenth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our team. well it seems

ron paul the most. >> right. ron paul, as i'll repeat myself, continues to underperform his polling and never won. we've always heard this is a state where he's outorganized everybody and never happens. the interesting thing for mitt romney is because all these guys hang in the race, almost 60% of the voters in every contest choose somebody else. however, rick santorum had to stop mitt romney in washington or he has to stop hip in ohio or his surge is over with and he has no chance to be the alternative to mitt romney. we have talked a lot about how momentum in this race is easily reversed and redirected. the timing now is critical because while you had voters strongly resisting that romney is along this process for many years now, he's running for president for six years, early in the primary season, want to go make a statement and in south carolina, that was an historic statement that they refused to pick the nominee and they voted for newt gingrich who is not going to be the nominee. that was a huge moment. >>

gingrich 42, ron paul scored 2 -- gingrich 72, ron paul 22. 6 of those came from alaska. >> the magicto secure the nomination. 1144. mitt romney is in the lead with 415, san tore raum 176 newt gingrich 105 and ron paul at 47. >>> now it's time for us to take a look at who's talking. gasoline prices, they are rising and american individuals want some answers. fox's own ed henry tried to get answers from president obama and said this is what he got. >> the critics will say on capitol hill you want gas prices to go higher you have said before that will wean the american people on to renewable fuels. how do you respond to that? >> from a political perspective do you think the president of the united states going into reelection wants gas prices to go higher? is there anybody here who thinks that makes a lot of sense? >> newt gingrich didn't miss a beat taking the opportunity to slam the president over this quote shallow response. >> i hope the analysts in washington and new york who spent june and july explaining our campaign was dead will watch this tonight and learn a little bit from th

ron paul the most. >> right. ron paul, as i'll repeat myself, continues to underperform his polling and never won. we've always heard this is a state where he's outorganized everybody and never happens. the interesting thing for mitt romney is because all these guys hang in the race, almost 60% of the voters in every contest choose somebody else. however, rick santorum had to stop mitt romney in washington or he has to stop hip in ohio or his surge is over with and he has no chance to be the alternative to mitt romney. we have talked a lot about how momentum in this race is easily reversed and redirected. the timing now is critical because while you had voters strongly resisting that romney is along this process for many years now, he's running for president for six years, early in the primary season, want to go make a statement and in south carolina, that was an historic statement that they refused to pick the nominee and they voted for newt gingrich who is not going to be the nominee. that was a huge moment. >>

and ron paul.ou don't like romney he is a repository of all of your opposition. how far does ron paul go in a state like virginia? how far does ron paul go in caucus states? alaska, we are talking about, where he has demonstrated more organizational strength bat of the enthusiasm from young people and people engaged in the social networks online? >> bret: bottom line, nobody is getting out of this race after tonight you don't think? >> no, i don't. i think they will stay in and try to slog it out. i look to virginia to what you said to build on that point. if ron paul does really well, what does it say about turn-out for mitt romney? i think that is where the pundits will be digging in the numbers tonight to see what the turn-out levels are. >> bret: you are shaking your head. >> i think look, most people don't think ron paul has a chance pen except for his voter. romney is the only long-term viable candidate in race in virginia. only one. the incentive for his people to turn out in great forces mi

ron paul. >> who are you supporting and why? >> newt gingrich. i think he is very experienced. i think maybe the reason he is not a favorite in the republican party is because he a renegade. >> rick santorum because he is a social conservative. >> one more. >> he is genuine. he is for real. >> months of this conversation, in some cases years because we have two candidates that have run before. new hampshire, one of mitt romney's most important surrogates, what message do you have to for them why romney should be the nominee? >> we need to beat barack obama in november. >> do you agree with that? >> yes! >> mitt romney is the candidate that can beat barack obama, we need somebody who has been outside of washington and who actually has the private sector experience, that knows how jobs are created and the private sector is right now. we don't need a washington insider. we need someone that knows how to fix problems. he has done that both in the private sector. in the olympics and it's not easy to

i'm a little ron polish their. political slant eyed i think both parties basically have done the same thing and they would complain relative to each other but both parties basically you know have followed a policy that the good has and promoted long term investment in the united states and i think ultimately we need to produce and suppose the paper. we couldn't agree more now ron paul has certainly seen his popularity and the popularity of his ideas grow and you draws huge crowds of supporters but take a look at the delegates that have been racked up by the candidates and you can see that he way way way way it pales in comparison and when it came to super tuesday it appears he had no first place win so what really explains this maybe maybe it's not the politicians or. maybe something else sucks or a. couple of shots on one idea and the mainstream media can't exactly how as an example look at m.s.m. these super tuesday show open and see if you notice anything. if you look at the republican party trying to fix presid

by or they hate anti ron paul propaganda from media and and then i think ron paul himself has not. been as clever as he should have been and the coast he has allowed himself to be positioned as somebody who will threaten the social safety net you know social security medicare so many tens of millions of people now are dependent upon and so when you add all those three together you can see that are. in fact i had a fourth most important thing about ron paul in my opinion is that he defends the constitution he stands up for the constitution of course the last ten years constitution has been murdered bush and cheney and now by obama yeah and so in a sense they lose in the constitution which means that we're losing the country and that's really the most important is sure and that's the reason why people should be flocking to ron paul because that's more important than the economy or anything else if you lose a constitution which we've done now. you're finished and so this doesn't seem to be appreciated by the general public may seem to be completely in the dark about the roberts you be

that was alex jones host of the alex jones show oh supporters of republican presidential candidate ron paul feel like they're being ignored and they're getting angry about it take a look at the chaos that broke out at the missouri caucuses yesterday. was. well here you see paul supporters clashing with g.o.p. officials the organizers say paul backers were being loud in obstructive pulse crowd says they just want to be heard police arrested two of us to call supporters there so are they in fact being disruptive or is this what they need to do in order to get their voices heard but i try to find out what's really going on here i'm joined now by trace dennet co-founder of ron paul swag. so we just saw there things got pretty heated and missouri paul supporters they feel like they're not getting a fair shot do you think there is an effort to silence the. i do absolutely in two thousand and eight i was part of the g.o.p. establishment if you will in texas and prior to all the convention levels not so much the precinct would be at the county convention and the state convention there's a lot

this is kind of how we felt. >> ron, are you okay? ron? >> ron? where are you?in a glass case of emotion. >> we were doing the happy kind of crying last night. yes, "anchorman" is back. >>> last night, jon stewart on "the daily show" showed off a little russian accent to make fun of president obama's hot mike gaffe with russian president medvedev. >> this is my last election. >> i understand that. >> after my election, i have more flexibility. >> yeah, i understand you. i transmit this information to vladimir. >> i transmit this information to vladimir. that is a sentence that should only be spoken into a shoe phone. i wonder if russia has been our enemy for years because everything they say just sounds evil. maybe tone and syntax. in russian it's like, has it been prepared for this evening? everything they say just sound like a veiled threat. have a nice day. >> it is my wish that you enjoy your waking up. >> i can't believe it's not butter. >> the authorities insist it is not butter, but -- >> a little drago action there. in still ahead, why you are awake. you

all military officials call it war a necessary evil ron paul begs to differ and the aftermath of a tragedy at the hands of a rogue u.s. soldier two questions loom over operations in afghanistan why are we still there and have we created more problems and we've helped to solve. there's been some research that and created about two point two million votes were lost in two thousand and eight due to voter registration problems. you know the saying every vote counts but that might not be totally accurate here in the u.s. well so you how ineffective the voting process really is and surveyed some solutions. and so a little bird told me just about everything there is to know about you that bird's name twitter so be careful what you tweet you never know this following your every move. it's tuesday march thirteenth seven pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching arts. well the u.s. has apologized for the shooting rampage in afghanistan that killed sixteen people many of them women and children and unnamed thirty year old staff sergeant is now in custody and in undisclosed location

that's what ron paul says.t's different than the others. >> who would like to ask senator ayat a question. >> i would like to see how we can bring the independent voters to romney. that's the challenge is romney is losing support from people like me. i am really an independent. >> he dropped 9 points among independents. much of it is because of the attack. not because of the republicans. a lot of it is barack obama. it is a fact he dropped among independents. how does he restore it? >> i think he has to bring this back to the big principles that are at play in this election. he is someone who firmly believes that this is a country that hard work will be rewarded. it is a country where opportunity is unlimited. bringing it to those principles and the decision that what we stand for and all of us stand for which is a smaller accountable government that will be fiscally responsible. i think bringing it back thouo prose prin those principles. you work ward you earn your success the land where personal responsibilit

but ron paul has one at least one state but ohio.joins us with the latest -- gary nurenberg joins us with the latest. good to see you again, gary. >> reporter: 86% of the vote in now. santorum and romney are locked in a very, very tight one. separated only by about 5,000 votes. 38-37% right now with romney taking the lead. it's been going back and forth all night. to summarize, romney wins in virginia, vermont and massachusetts. santorum in oklahoma, tennessee. we're watching ohio closely. back to you in a bit more. >> all right. thanks, gary. >>> i'm joined now on the interview set by bob urlick, the former governor of maryland. your guy not able to close the deal tonight. not able to pull away. maybe he gets ohio. but it's going to be 3-3 with him and santorum in the race tonight. >> not on the delegate. he wins big on the delegate count. and derek you know the bottom line here is ohio. a w is a w is a w is a w. we've seen that in american politics. whoever wins ohio, the white house is watching the race tonight. interesting result

ron. ron dellums, the radical dude from berkeley on the armed services committee. okay, we'll do it. and i think they -- i don't think they thought we could do it. but they sent the letter. the day comes when they're choosing people. i get this phone call. ron, you have been denied membership on the armed services committee. so i went to phil burton, a leader in the house at the time, from san francisco. phil burton, brilliant guy. i said, phil, i'm still an outsider. i don't know how to fight inside. i just have been denied membership on the house armed services committee. how die fight back? he thought for a moment and said, who is the chair of the congressional black caution? i said, lou stokes. he said he's a wonderful guy, nice gentleman, but find lou stokes and also find bill clay. bill clay. aggressive. take both of them with you to the meeting to fight to put you on armeds services. so i went -- bill clay, and lou are very good friends and i found them at lunch and said i've been denied membership on the armeds services commitee. i need you to pick up the p

but i believe that is partially why ron paul has just decided to. running as a republican because i think he is well aware of the fact that he probably would be included in a single poll if he was running as a third party candidate and not included in a lot of the polls running as a republican so i think realizes that a lot of people realize that running as a third in a third party is a political death wish of sorts because you're just not going to get the money and you're not going to get the backing of. the big money players you really need and i find it very interesting that ron paul actually is getting a lot of money god willing of course from the military but also from prominent investors like one of the founders of pay pal so i really think that a third party candidate running under a third party grafton's an independent or libertarian or so forth i think they realize that now we've been united with super pac and. almost unlimited money at the disposal of the obama campaign and the romney campaign. is really it would not be viable. it certainl