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nbc's ron allen and ron mott are in those states. ron allen, let's begin with you. >> reporter: good evening, lester. the conditions here are getting better but it's still somewhat dangerous because there's just so much snow everywhere as you can see. late today the governor lifted the ban on traveling the roads, but he like governor patrick in massachusetts, is still warning the safest course of action for everyone is to just stay home. it took four guys with shovels and a lot of grit to get just one car unstuck this morning. connecticut woke up to whiteout conditions. with several communities buried under more than three feet of snow. the deepest, 40 inches in hamden. >> it's been really hectic. we've been shoveling up in the front of the mall, and it's taking a lot of work. >> reporter: overnight, the blizzard was intense. dumping several inches of snow each hour. >> we've had no snow for multiple years so everybody forgot how to drive in it. >> i have filed a request with the president of the united states for an emergency declar
nbc's ron allen and ron mott are in those states. ron allen, let's begin with you. >> reporter: good evening, lester. the conditions here are getting better but it's still somewhat dangerous because there's just so much snow everywhere as you can see. late today the governor lifted the ban on traveling the roads, but he like governor patrick in massachusetts, is still warning the safest course of action for everyone is to just stay home. it took four guys with shovels and a lot of grit to...
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ron allen live in hartford. oh, ron. a lot different there than it is here right now. >> i'm great this is where we came to work this morning. this as far as we can go. just outside our hotel. downtown hartford. snow close to 20 20inches no so parts of the state, it's hard to determine exactly what the impact of all of this is. i know late last night driving here, some of our crews got stuck trying to get two miles or less through the center of town, it's that bad there are a lot of cars stuck on the roadways around, people for the most part heeded the warnings to stay home, the governor very adamant about that, the roads here, massachusetts for the most part, are shut down, they have been towing cars and even some emergency vehicles have gotten stuck, right now, it's very cold out here as well. temperatures must be in the 20s and the forecast keeps it in the 20s all day, so it's going to be getting hard and very slippery throughout most of the day. the snow is continuing, i understand the forecast is saying it will star
ron allen live in hartford. oh, ron. a lot different there than it is here right now. >> i'm great this is where we came to work this morning. this as far as we can go. just outside our hotel. downtown hartford. snow close to 20 20inches no so parts of the state, it's hard to determine exactly what the impact of all of this is. i know late last night driving here, some of our crews got stuck trying to get two miles or less through the center of town, it's that bad there are a lot of cars...
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ron allen, nbc news, chicago. >> a great note to end on on a tuesday night. for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you back home in our new york studios tomorrow evening. goodnight. >>> and dpeng good evening, everyone. i'm jessica aguirre. >> and i'm raj mathai. an update on the story we've been following the last couple of hours. you are looking at a live picture now and our nbc chopper on the scene with where two police officers have been shot. this is just a few miles from the santa cruz beach boardwalk in a residential area. a third suspect, possibly the suspect, has been shot. the fbi is involved in the investigation. it started around 4:00 this afternoon with reports multiple gunshots were fired near the intersection of water street. george kiriyama joins us live with this continuing investigation. what do we know this hour? >> reporter: you can see this crazy scene behind me. i'm going to step out of the way. we have confirmed two officers have been shot and wounded. right now the injuries are not known. another person was also sho
ron allen, nbc news, chicago. >> a great note to end on on a tuesday night. for being here with us. i'm brian williams. we hope to see you back home in our new york studios tomorrow evening. goodnight. >>> and dpeng good evening, everyone. i'm jessica aguirre. >> and i'm raj mathai. an update on the story we've been following the last couple of hours. you are looking at a live picture now and our nbc chopper on the scene with where two police officers have been shot. this...
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among a group of 100 african-americans featured on our nbc news website, thegrio.com, and tonight ron allen ♪ >> reporter: passion and artistry lift the mcgill brothers to lofty heights. demarre plays lead flute with the seattle symphony. kid brother anthony is the principal clarinettist for the world-renowned new york metropolitan opera. rising stars in the rarefied world of classical music, where just 4% of the musicians in national orchestras are african-american or latino. why classical music? >> i was drawn to the stories that i heard as a kid, musical stories, and my imagination would just go wild. >> when i was listening to an orchestra or i was playing the clarinet, somehow, it got deeper into my soul. >> reporter: they started on the south side of chicago, known for its urban problems, not the classics. >> hi, sweetheart! >> reporter: parents ira, a retired teacher, and demarre sr., a former firefighter, say they mortgaged the house five times to pay for lessons. >> the pads look good. >> reporter: they still have demarre's first flute and a little something he scribbled down when
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. >> nbc's ron allen has more on ed koch's life. >> hi!porter: ed koch was a quintessential new yorker and one of the city's most popular and outspoken politicians. known for his no nonsense in your face colorful personality and the trademark question asked of friends and foes alike, even on "saturday night live." >> how'm i doing? >> reporter: he was born to polish-jewish immigrants in the bronx, new york, 1934. drafted out of college by the army to serve in world war ii. returning home, he began climbing the political ladder. a lifelong democrat who served on new york city counsel and three terms in the congress and in 1977 he became new york's 105th mayor, a job koch often said he wanted for life. koch took over a city facing financial crisis and credited with saving it if disaster. he was mayor 12 years and spirited, irreverent and rarely if ever boring. >> thank you. >> reporter: in 1982, he lost a democratic primary for governor to long time rival mario cuomo. >> i promised i would never run for governor again -- >> you promised that
. >> nbc's ron allen has more on ed koch's life. >> hi!porter: ed koch was a quintessential new yorker and one of the city's most popular and outspoken politicians. known for his no nonsense in your face colorful personality and the trademark question asked of friends and foes alike, even on "saturday night live." >> how'm i doing? >> reporter: he was born to polish-jewish immigrants in the bronx, new york, 1934. drafted out of college by the army to serve in...
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nbc's ron allen is in hartford where it is snowing. ron, oh, ron. it's already come down so hard.t are you expecting there in terms of what -- how hartford is going to get hit? >> andrea, here in connecticut we're at the state capitol, hartford, and it's become aing ghost town. you can see traffic out on the roads behind me. the governor has warned people at the highways around the state are going to close down at any moment sometime after noon. they are really trying to get the roads clear for emergency vehicles to get around, and snow plows to get around. you can see the city buses are still running too. that's going to shut down. the airport is closing here at about 1:30, about this time. it's about 12 miles north of here. everybody is trying to hunker down. the governor declared a state of emergency at noon. he expects 30% of the state to have its power knocked out. they've really tried to put the pressure on the utility companies to preposition equipment and get ready for the storm. especially since they know that this one is coming. in this p state they have crew from north
nbc's ron allen is in hartford where it is snowing. ron, oh, ron. it's already come down so hard.t are you expecting there in terms of what -- how hartford is going to get hit? >> andrea, here in connecticut we're at the state capitol, hartford, and it's become aing ghost town. you can see traffic out on the roads behind me. the governor has warned people at the highways around the state are going to close down at any moment sometime after noon. they are really trying to get the roads...
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we have nbc's ron allen standing by for us in hartford. it looks a little better. you were being pelted earlier today. >> reporter: yeah, it stopped snowing, alex. the temperatures are as ron was saying hovering around freezing. it's very cold out here. you can see a lot of blowing and drifting snow. over here, this is snow that's been plowed by the plows off the main roadway. it's about four feet tall. but there are snowdrifts in other parts of the state as high as 7 or 8 feet. the highest snowfall total is about 38 inches. overall at the airport it's about 32 inches. they're saying this is the second biggest snowstorm ever in connecticut. we're also hearing now about two fatalities. one an 81-year-old woman who we understand was snow blowing her property and was hit-and-run over by a car, a car that kept going apparently unaware that they had caused this accident. the second incident which you just heard about in danbury, connecticut according to the mayor there. a man was on his porch shoveling. apparently fell, hit his head somehow. and it appears to be a storm-
we have nbc's ron allen standing by for us in hartford. it looks a little better. you were being pelted earlier today. >> reporter: yeah, it stopped snowing, alex. the temperatures are as ron was saying hovering around freezing. it's very cold out here. you can see a lot of blowing and drifting snow. over here, this is snow that's been plowed by the plows off the main roadway. it's about four feet tall. but there are snowdrifts in other parts of the state as high as 7 or 8 feet. the...
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nbc's ron allen, thanks to you. >>> that wraps up this hour of "jansing & company."have a great weekend. thomas roberts is next. >> have a great weekend. hi, everybody, good morning. the agenda next hour, watching reaction to the january jobs numbers. they are out. and while the unemployment rate ticked up slightly, wall street starts february with record highs. we'll have ron en sonna and jerryd bernstein join me as the markets are flirting with history today. >>> then did hagel fumble his visit to the hill? do democrats have cold feet after chuck hagel's performance during his confirmation of secretary of defense. we'll discuss that. >>> and this could be the gayest sprobl super bowl ever. one uses the game to promote marriage equality. another goes and gets busted for acting homophobic. former pro player, wade davis, who came out after playing in the nfl joins me to talk about the dichotomy of the super bowl narratives. that and much more at the top of the hour. rty for the big game. let's see if walmart's low price guarantee can make you the mvp of savings. look
nbc's ron allen, thanks to you. >>> that wraps up this hour of "jansing & company."have a great weekend. thomas roberts is next. >> have a great weekend. hi, everybody, good morning. the agenda next hour, watching reaction to the january jobs numbers. they are out. and while the unemployment rate ticked up slightly, wall street starts february with record highs. we'll have ron en sonna and jerryd bernstein join me as the markets are flirting with history today....
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my colleague ron allen. >> reporter: this is meriden, connecticut, where they got up to three feet of snow. they got tired of waiting for the snowplow on this street, so the neighbors have taken care of business by themselves. >> reporter: power crews travel great distances, from michigan, ohio, and tennessee to lend a hand in rhode island. still, restoring power and removing such massive amounts of snow takes time. hamden, connecticut, 40 history making inches. portland, maine, a record of nearly 32. 27.6 in west gloucester, rhode island. boston, almost 25. for thomas, the sea, not the snow was the menace. this is the deck of his house being bruised and battered yesterday. today, he was out trying to piece it back together while keeping it all in perspective. >> it's wonderful, the sunrise in the morning. big waves. but every once in a while, you get hit. >> reporter: tonight, connecticut's governor tweeted a stay home message for a lot of state workers for tomorrow, a lot of colleges and universities and schools in connecticut will be closed on monday. and here in boston, boston pub
my colleague ron allen. >> reporter: this is meriden, connecticut, where they got up to three feet of snow. they got tired of waiting for the snowplow on this street, so the neighbors have taken care of business by themselves. >> reporter: power crews travel great distances, from michigan, ohio, and tennessee to lend a hand in rhode island. still, restoring power and removing such massive amounts of snow takes time. hamden, connecticut, 40 history making inches. portland, maine, a...
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ron allen is down there live for us. how long will this take?ly means more money for people in connecticut and towns to get rid of the snow. the problem is there's so much snow around, it may sound simplistic, but really. you can see there are cars moving, but they're traveling through very narrow passageways. over there behind me, you can see the plows trying to clear off the sidewalk. that gives you an idea what it's like in smaller towns are secondary roads, where there are several feet of snow. cars are paralyzed in their driveways. we were in one town where the people got tired of waiting for the snow plow to arrive. so they were doing it themselves with plows and shovels to try to get out of their homes and get back to some sense of normal. here the international airport opened this morning. flights are getting back. i imagine there's a lot of cancellations. haven't heard officially about schools generally, but some reports that towns have already cancelled schools. i would think that would happen just about everywhere. while the governor
ron allen is down there live for us. how long will this take?ly means more money for people in connecticut and towns to get rid of the snow. the problem is there's so much snow around, it may sound simplistic, but really. you can see there are cars moving, but they're traveling through very narrow passageways. over there behind me, you can see the plows trying to clear off the sidewalk. that gives you an idea what it's like in smaller towns are secondary roads, where there are several feet of...
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for that, we turn to ron allen. ron? >> reporter: thanks, al. here in hartford, the temperatures are around 30 degrees so we're getting snow, not rain. it's been picking up in the last hour or so. we're at the state capitol. as you can see, it's pretty empty right now because the governor has asked only essential employees to come in today. people are heeding that warning out there. you can see a snow plow. the town is a ghost town. schools are closed here, the airport is going to close at about 1:30 this afternoon. all flights in the afternoon have been canceled. gas stations are busy. a bad sign if you wait until the last minute. i drove up here from the new york, new jersey area, about 200 miles or so. the interstates are passable but conditions are dedear rating. in some places there is only one lane opened. a tractor-trailer jackknifed and spun out. there will be probably more of that as the day goes on. a lot of sand trucks on the road and utility trucks on the road, which is a good sign. now let's turn it over to rehema ellis. >> reporter
for that, we turn to ron allen. ron? >> reporter: thanks, al. here in hartford, the temperatures are around 30 degrees so we're getting snow, not rain. it's been picking up in the last hour or so. we're at the state capitol. as you can see, it's pretty empty right now because the governor has asked only essential employees to come in today. people are heeding that warning out there. you can see a snow plow. the town is a ghost town. schools are closed here, the airport is going to close...
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nbc's ron allen joins us with the latest. >> reporter: things are shut down here, chris.aturday morning, people coming up and discovered that the roads are closed. the weather's bad. it's still frigid out here, although in the last half hour or so, the snow has stopped falling. nobody's going anywhere. there's a car coming here. i have no idea where he's going. it's very difficult to get around here tonight, this afternoon, all day. they're thinking that the roads will probably be closed perhaps as soon as -- as late as tomorrow morning. it's that bad at this point. about 37,000 homes without power which is actually good news. the thinking would be there would be many more, 100,000 or more. 400,000 in massachusetts, the hardest hit. people digging out and hunkering down for what could be the entire day. >> nbc's ron allen in hartford, connecticut. thanks so much. stay warm out there. >>> we're talking about feminism and global context and global women's movements. there was something you wanted to say? >> i was thinking nor'easter, feminists talk about a feminist tsunami
nbc's ron allen joins us with the latest. >> reporter: things are shut down here, chris.aturday morning, people coming up and discovered that the roads are closed. the weather's bad. it's still frigid out here, although in the last half hour or so, the snow has stopped falling. nobody's going anywhere. there's a car coming here. i have no idea where he's going. it's very difficult to get around here tonight, this afternoon, all day. they're thinking that the roads will probably be closed...
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now ron allen in hartford, connecticut. another state where they have a state of emergency in effect. are you seeing conditions worsening there for you, ron? >> reporter: absolutely. >> you're like dumb question, tamron. >> how's the warm studio? >> i would be willing to get out there. >> reporter: i'm sorry? >> i said i'd be willing to get throughout there for another hour. i understand it will increase in several hours, ron. >> reporter: it's getting worse, yeah. you might have heard a fire engine go by and that's the reason they want the roads to be open. and people to stay off of them. we are in a parking lot of the state capitol and it's empty. they ordered nonessential workers to stay home and everybody did that. hartford for the most part is pretty quiet. main road out here, usually busy, empty. we saw the buses going by. the governor a little while ago warned the roads can close down at any moment. afternoon. they're just waiting to see the conditions because they absolutely want to keep things clear for snowplows an
now ron allen in hartford, connecticut. another state where they have a state of emergency in effect. are you seeing conditions worsening there for you, ron? >> reporter: absolutely. >> you're like dumb question, tamron. >> how's the warm studio? >> i would be willing to get out there. >> reporter: i'm sorry? >> i said i'd be willing to get throughout there for another hour. i understand it will increase in several hours, ron. >> reporter: it's getting...
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here is nbc's ron allen. >> hi!> reporter: ed koch was a quintessential new yorker and one of the city's most popular and outspoken politicians, known for his no nonsense in your face colorful personality and his trademark question asked of friends and faoes alike, even o "saturday night live." >> how am i doing? >> reporter: edward irving koch was born in the bronx new york in 1984, drafted out of college by the army to serve in world war ii. when he returned home, he began climbing the political ladder. a lifelong democrat, who served on new york city council, then three terms in the congress. and in 1977, he became new york's 105th mayor, a job koch often said he wanted for life. koch tool took over a city facing financial crisis and was credited with saving it from disaster. he was mayor for 12 years that were spirited, irreverent and rarely, if ever, boring. he lost to mario cuomo. >> i promised i would never run for governor again. >> you promised that before. >> in 1989 he lost his bid for an unprecedented fo
here is nbc's ron allen. >> hi!> reporter: ed koch was a quintessential new yorker and one of the city's most popular and outspoken politicians, known for his no nonsense in your face colorful personality and his trademark question asked of friends and faoes alike, even o "saturday night live." >> how am i doing? >> reporter: edward irving koch was born in the bronx new york in 1984, drafted out of college by the army to serve in world war ii. when he returned...
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his funeral will be held on monday. >> ron allen, thank you very much. someone who was born and raised in this city, mr. mayor, thank you for all you did. >> one of america's originals for sure. >>> a busy morning, another big story, a terror attack at a u.s. embassy in turkey. tamron hall in for natalie at the news desk. >> good morning, everyone. an explosion outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey. local police say a suicide bomber detonated in the -- suicide bomb detonated in the capital city killing at least three people. ambulances at the scene are responding to several people who were wounded. >>> the latest jobs numbers are out this morning. courtney reagan is at the cnbc world headquarters with more. good morning. >> good morning to you, tamron. the first jobs report of 2013 showed 157,000 jobs were added in january. that was the low growth expectation. the unemployment rate dixes up a hair to 7.9%. but thanks to revisions the economy added one third of a million more jobs in 2012 than previously estimated. a large part of those jobs coming i
his funeral will be held on monday. >> ron allen, thank you very much. someone who was born and raised in this city, mr. mayor, thank you for all you did. >> one of america's originals for sure. >>> a busy morning, another big story, a terror attack at a u.s. embassy in turkey. tamron hall in for natalie at the news desk. >> good morning, everyone. an explosion outside the u.s. embassy in ankara, turkey. local police say a suicide bomber detonated in the -- suicide...
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i want to go to ron allen now, who is standing by in hartford, connecticut. where you're standing in hartford, the lowest snowfall is about 27 inches, but i understand a little farther south in hamden, they got dumped with about 40 inches of snow. how long before local cleanup crews can get those roads clean? >> reporter: that's a good question and that's the question that people all over this state are asking. there's just a lot of snow here all over the place. i'm going to show you something down the way here. you can see it's a long shot, but there's a commuter, a peter pan bus down there that's stuck trying to get off the highway or around this corner. it's been there for a long time, and there was another bus right around this other corner that you couldn't see, but it's been there for a long time, but it's an example of the kinds of problems people are still having trying to get around. that bus is obviously blocking traffic. but if you pan around the other way, you'll see that the roads here are still pretty treacherous. and over to your far right, the
i want to go to ron allen now, who is standing by in hartford, connecticut. where you're standing in hartford, the lowest snowfall is about 27 inches, but i understand a little farther south in hamden, they got dumped with about 40 inches of snow. how long before local cleanup crews can get those roads clean? >> reporter: that's a good question and that's the question that people all over this state are asking. there's just a lot of snow here all over the place. i'm going to show you...
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and clearly when you look at the speakers list, you see rick perry, mitt romney, sarah palin, ron paul, allenyne lapierre. i don't see chris christie and i don't see your dad. >> certainly no forward thinkers in that group you showed. that's unnerving to see people like this. that's not the future of the gop. >> when you look at the fact, victor victoria, joe scarborough who hosts "morning joe" here, he and i don't agree on much. but he even talked about it. take a listen to this. >> underlines how out of touch the movements are. it underlines just how little they care about actual electoral victorie victories. they have a coalition that cares about talk radio ratings. they understand you have to say extreme things to get those ratings. it's about resentment and hating democrats and hating -- of course that's not how you win. apparently these days being a republican is not about winning. >> so, i mean, what is happening to this party? how can they survive when you even have people to the right like joe scarborough saying it's not about winning. tell me how we can deal with this party? i'm loo
and clearly when you look at the speakers list, you see rick perry, mitt romney, sarah palin, ron paul, allenyne lapierre. i don't see chris christie and i don't see your dad. >> certainly no forward thinkers in that group you showed. that's unnerving to see people like this. that's not the future of the gop. >> when you look at the fact, victor victoria, joe scarborough who hosts "morning joe" here, he and i don't agree on much. but he even talked about it. take a listen...
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also like to recognize two members of the national congress of american indians from my home state, ron allen, chairman of the jamestown sklolum tribe and fawn sharp from the qunalt nation, the northwest area vice president. i know both of them are strong members of ncai and i look forward to working with them in this new capacity. in his speech, president keel spoke about indian nations and their need to secure their futures. this reminds me of what chief seattle once said. "the earth does not belong to us, we belong to the earth. whatever befalls the earth, befalls the sons and daughters of the earth, we do not weave the web of life, we are merely strands in it and whatever we do to that web, we do to ourselves." from first treaties with indian nations, the federal government has acknowledged that native people are the stewards of our land. native people have lived off the land and in harmony with the earth and its resources for thousands of years. you have a strong voice that needs to be part of the national dialogue, and when it comes to seeking solutions, whether it's on natural resource
also like to recognize two members of the national congress of american indians from my home state, ron allen, chairman of the jamestown sklolum tribe and fawn sharp from the qunalt nation, the northwest area vice president. i know both of them are strong members of ncai and i look forward to working with them in this new capacity. in his speech, president keel spoke about indian nations and their need to secure their futures. this reminds me of what chief seattle once said. "the earth...
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my friend and colleague ron allen is standing by in hartford.he travel ban there. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we are hearing reports that the governor may lift it in the next hour or so. we just took a drive around outside of downtown hartford where we are now and where we've been the the roads are pretty passable and we were struck by how many on and off-ramps are blocked and you can't get off the main highways. also, secondary roads are blocked and some officials in local towns are saying it could be tomorrow, sunday or even further before they can get plows from all of the roads. if they lift the travel ban, folks did go where they want to go and it's still difficult to get around out here and there's still a lot of snow on the ground. as you said, there are several towns reporting more than 30 inches of snow. overall, we're hearing that this is the second biggest snowstorm that this state has ever received averaging about some 22 or three inches for the most part and that's the reading at the airport where the official number comes in
my friend and colleague ron allen is standing by in hartford.he travel ban there. what can you tell us? >> reporter: we are hearing reports that the governor may lift it in the next hour or so. we just took a drive around outside of downtown hartford where we are now and where we've been the the roads are pretty passable and we were struck by how many on and off-ramps are blocked and you can't get off the main highways. also, secondary roads are blocked and some officials in local towns...
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ron allen, thank you so much. >>> giada is cooking up her favorite fish dish >> announcer: cooking withrget and target.com. >>> back now 8:51. cooking with giada today, our contribut contributor is here. let's start with the basics. you're in the supermarket, shopping for fish fillets or whole fish. what are you looking for? >> when you're buying fish, first of all, make sure it doesn't have any discoloration and that it's nice and moist, especially in the corners. when fish has been sitti for too long that's where you start to see. >> do you touch the fish? looking for firmness? >> you can touch it, it should bounce back a little bit. the meat of the fish should all be together. it shouldn't start to separate. >> when it comes to whole fish? >> it's a different story but the scales should all be very tight to the skin and the eyes should be nice and bright as you see that one is. you want to make sure, give it a nice smell if you can. >> if it's a little off -- >> if it's a little off, get away from it. >> forget about it? >> exactly. >> this is incredibly easy? >> very, very easy. if
ron allen, thank you so much. >>> giada is cooking up her favorite fish dish >> announcer: cooking withrget and target.com. >>> back now 8:51. cooking with giada today, our contribut contributor is here. let's start with the basics. you're in the supermarket, shopping for fish fillets or whole fish. what are you looking for? >> when you're buying fish, first of all, make sure it doesn't have any discoloration and that it's nice and moist, especially in the corners....
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joining us to talk about it though, john allen, senior cnn vatican analyst in ron.e of the most -- it's seek yet and intense in the history of the world really. what is this going to be like? >> reporter: lay, christi, you're absolutely right. not only is this mystery-soaked, but as you indicated in the old days they used to play for some very high stakes. bear in mind that when benedict xvi leaves the vatican on february 28th, the last thing that will happen is the college of cardinals will say farewell to him. they will do that in a room that is named for a pope, pope clement, who several centuries ago was kidnapped, taken to the crimea, executed. his body was tossed into a river with an anchor around it so it couldn't pop back up. i mean, this is not just the stuff of dan brown. this is the stuff of real life. nobody is expecting this time around it's going to be quite that dramatic. but when we're talking about a leadership change for a church with 1.2 billion followers all over the world, it's obviously momentous, and when the cardinals file into the sistine ch
joining us to talk about it though, john allen, senior cnn vatican analyst in ron.e of the most -- it's seek yet and intense in the history of the world really. what is this going to be like? >> reporter: lay, christi, you're absolutely right. not only is this mystery-soaked, but as you indicated in the old days they used to play for some very high stakes. bear in mind that when benedict xvi leaves the vatican on february 28th, the last thing that will happen is the college of cardinals...