ron allen, it seems like they are still working through reading the verdict. as we wait for the verdict to be read, ron, set the scene outside the courthouse. >> well, there is a problem with the verdict form. it's very, very complicated. this is a case about abuse, about domestic violence allegations and so forth. but it's ultimately about defamation. and to prove defamation, there are very strict and very specific things that you have to prove about the allegations. and, of course, this case also boils down to three statements that amber heard made in a "washington post" op-ed and whether the statements constitute defamation. similarly, depp's attorney constitute defamation. so all told, there are dozens of decisions, dozens of questions that the jury had to answer, yes or no. is this defamation? is the statement false? also they have to decide whether it is malice. was one party lying about something and knew they were lying about something? and so that complicated the case. and then, of course, there is this question of money. one side asking for $50 millio

ron allen, nbc news, brooklyn. >>> a large fire destroyed a dining hall at a maryland summer camp the fire broke out at camp airy just before 7:30 a.m over00 firefighters popped where they worked for about three hours to get the blaze under control. no one was in the building when it started firefighters used tankers and water from a nearby popped as well as two swimming pools to battle the fire. the investigation into what sparked it is ongoing. >> the camp remains in session >>> let's turn now to the weather on this final day of june any hell grossman is here with a look ahead >> it's a very summer-like pattern out there. and we're looking at showers and storms once again in the gulf coast states parts of eastern texas we've been watching this for days and will continue to watch it throughout the weekend as well it's a combination of a stalled frontal boundary it would be brief. this is moving forward the west and also the north, and we're looking at tropical rains in eastern texas, and scattered storms along the gulf coast states into the northeast, unfortunately, that will linger

ron allen with late details now. >> reporter: disgraced music superstar r. kelly now likely to spend the rest of his life in prison, sentenced to 30 years, convicted of luring young women and girls into his orbit and sexually abusing and exploiting them. judge ann donnelly saying kelly left a trail of broken lives in his wake, he raped them, beat them, separated them from their families, saddled them with an incurable sexually transmitted disease. >> 30 years did he do this and 30 years is what he got. >> i thank all of yo all that have stood in support of us for so long >> reporter: earlier several of kelly's victims confronting hi in court with emotional impact statements calling him shameless, disgusting, a predator i wished i would die because of how low you made me feel said a woman identified only as jane doe >> it happened a long time ago i was 17 i'm 45 today i never thought i would be here to see him be held accountable for the atrocious things that he did to children >> reporter: the multi-platinum artist once known as the pied piper of r&b was con

politics reporter with the texas try bun, and here with me in new york, ron allen. th you. it was a few hours ago we saw kathy hochul. what's happening in new york? >> they are responding to buffalo. they are doing what they can. and remember new york already has the toughest gun lus some of them in the country. one that's giving a lot of talk is mostly the age restriction of 21 to buy or possess a semiautomatic rifle. the shooter in buffalo was 18. they are trying to address the things that were exposed by that. another big one is tight account the red flag warnings already in existence in new york. again, remember the 18-year-old shooter allegedly had a mental health check of some sort the year before, but it wasn't very serious. he joked his way through it, he says in his writings, ask went on to be able to buy a gun. there's also things like a ban on buying body armor unless you need it for work as a security guard or law enforcement official. so new york is doing what it can to try to solve this problem. here's a what the governor had to say about why she's taki

ron allen is outside the courtroom. what can you tell us about the sentence? >> reporter: it amounts to 30 years, which is essentially a life sentence which is what the prosecution is asking for. it was for -- they tore into r kelly and y he was opposing the sentence. he said that she talked about how those were extreme measures saying he's been a victim of childhood sexual debuts . saying that there are all these reasons but they said those were expirations but not an excuse for his behavior. the violence and cruelty to children. calculated carefully planned over a period of 25 years. remember the charges. racketeering he had of a criminal enterprise essentially that was his own personal 6 the sexual gratification. it is an enterprise where more people took control of it. he had enablers. he talked about the engineers, drivers, managers others who were in his orbit that described leaning out to more young people in his orbit. she wondered what was going to happen to them. how could this happen? how could all these people be around him letting this happen? she

joining me from outside the courthouse in fairfax, virginia is nbc news reporter ron allen.appening here? he's suing her, she's suing him. what's the jury going to have a verdict on today? >> reporter: who is telling the truth essentially. they can't both be telling the truth. they could both be lying. that's one thing that the jury could perhaps find. essentially -- depp is saying that heard destroyed his career and lied about him being a domestic violence abuser. you have to show that the person did this with malice and then they are asking tens of millions of dollars they so the jury drip given the fact this he so many decisions to make about what def nation is and call is is. is he for them to come out now wein he released a statement saying he had previous commitments in england. he's doing a number of concerts oaf there. herd we expect it be of saying that she's going to be here because where you are is what's moe so again, here we go. the judge should read the verdict in about half an hour and the six weeks of sensational testimony where, as you say, social media was

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ron, nevada, republican. what is the public policy issue on your mind? caller: i would like to reference the professor's segment, would you say his name again? host: william allen the book there. host: it was a publication of eight essays, he wrote a couple of those essays. caller: ok. he is associated with cure, which was started by star parker and somebody else. i want to go back to what he was saying and make a comment or two. i thought it was very enlightening, it stirred a lot of controversy, which was good. the controversy was not blunt and crude, it was intellectual. what i would like to say first is, i am a fan of star parker. i haven't seen her in the media much these days, but she was somebody i heard speak before. i would probably like to learn more about cure, that is something that is interesting to me. what i wanted to say was, the professor referenced the beginning in 1600, it was a cancer. he said this cancer is now in a different stage, it needs to be looked at as a sickness. the metaphor he used was well said, except for one thing. my perspective is, i look at the beginning of the united states when it had slavery as a birth defect, not as can