. >> well, the -- i remember ron aronald reagan in 1985, he said they promised me $3 in spending cuts for every one in spending cuts, they gave him opposite he felt he had been taken to the cleaners in the bill, in 1982, that was on his mind for the rest of his presidency, and republicans are headed into the same trap. neil: i think, there are a lot of people who don't like tax hikes, but president campaigned to hiking taxes on the wealthy, as much as i'm against it, it is going to happen. but if that a consequence, it is not, other consequence should not be you republicans losing your backbone and resolve on issues near to you, but they are folding on cheap suits on ooe issue after another, what gives? >> i think they realize, they have a gun to their head, they are told by the president, either you will give me an increase in tax rates, repeals bush tax cuts from 39 to 45%, and if you don't, i will sit here, and we'll go over the cliff, and everybody's taxes will be raised. i don't think he is bluffing. i think president obama is less frightened of going over the cliff than the repu