barber not exactly a radical talking about limiting u.s. military involvement in places like afghanistan, he decided not to run. but it's not just the ron pauls of the world. ron paul takes it to it's logical extreme. but it's a strain within the republican party now that says should we even be doing it. it's not a majority, but it's a reality and the polls number that you have shown. >> don't forget, how many of the states that are critical swing states are states with strong military presence. it cuts both ways. the military is wary as well. if you talk to people in mcnorth carolina -- people in north carolina, and other places where there's large military bases, this is starting to on settle in. the home life is very, very difficult. >> no question, you know, look, andrea, in some way, and we will not get it this year. in an election year, you'll not get the big picture rethink. but it's about what role does, whoever is the president of the united states, but what is their vision of what america should and should not do in this post iraq and afghanistan or in the middle of afghanistan world? what is our role? and i don't know that th