. >> we had ron baron on yesterday. >> very much, very positive on his feet, within two years, i believeid it will be -- >> $100 billion. >> that's fabulous optimism like that. >> don't fear optimism wrap don't fear optimism. i thought that was a great rap how about the sucker punch, bringing up the quote that chuck did. you were optimistic. then larry to his credit, said, yeah, i got that wrong. >> he did. >> that was a very good -- chuck is fabulous. chuck todd it was painful. >> quick on this tech, i mentioned the other day, confirmed what we were reporting the other day, they did have this letter they received from apollo stocks getting hit on this with apollo said they're interested, but most recent talks have not been about that, but about apollo selling them and/or combining some of the stations or the stations that they are in the process of buying, maybe in the form of rmt, nothing to report there stock finally going down on this from the company, the statement. >> what does -- why do they pick that name? >> i don't know. >> it is an oil service company >> it is like a pipeline