we will return to our conversation with pl d ron carver.ll three are now in vietnam to mark the 50th anniversary of the my lai massacre. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: ratrjoe d thei'm-fixin'-to-die fish. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we continue to mark the 50th anniversary of the my lai massacre and we return to the conversation juan gonzalez and i had with three longtime peace activists who went back to vietnam to mark the anniversary, vietnam war veterans paul cox and susan schnall and longtime organizer ron carver. i asked ron to talk about the gi coffeehouses which became a hotbed of gi resistance during the vietnam war. supportiveo were of the soldiers in the effort to bring them home alive came up with the idea, started with fred gardner, who was in alameda, california, who opened up the first coffeehouse called the ufo .nd clinic a place ins to have these army towns that were filled with exploitive businesses trying to just police the soldiers, sleazy jewelry stores, or hou

, former navy nurse who was court-martialed for opposing the vietnam war, and longtime activist ron carverwho has organized an exhibit honoring the gi antiwar movement at the war remnants museum in ho chi minh city. i began by asking ron n carver about what happened d 50 years o today in my lai. >> well, 504 civilians, noncombatants, were mowed down by soldiers -- as you said, it was horrific, but it was not an isolated incident. it was part of the culture of the war that had been created and fostered and was largely a product of the pentagon's insistence on high body counts in order to justify their continued war effort and the continuingng escalatating insise that the u.s. congress give them ever more money and ever more troops. this is what led to these kind of massacres. the significance to me, however, is people like hugh thompson who, at great risk, landed his helicopter, had his crew train whor guns on the soldiers were committing this massacre and telling them that they had to stop or they would be shot themselves. ledthat is part of what has to the development of this exhibit that