in fact, we have a button right here, ron dellums, for congressman. and so clearly this is from a re-election campaign and at that point he had begun some of the most interesting things he was doing in the ways that he operated within the house, right? >> yeah, dellums is elected to congress in the 1970s election. he comes into the house in 1971. he's a veteran. he had run on an anti-war movement, running against the war in vietnam. he represents berkeley, california, which has a strong anti-war constituency and he wants to get on committees where he can begin to effect military policy. so he begins to lobby to get on to the armed services committee. he's also a co-founder of the congressional black caucus in 1971. and he uses that -- the caucus to help move into a position where he can get on armed services. and one of thetories that he told us in an oral history interview was going to speaker of the house carl albert and appealing to speaker albert to put him on armed services. and this was in effect going around the committee chairman who was a sou