but back too ron d to ron desan other element is he might be running for president and we saw how donaldall as a signature issue. and clearly desantis and abbott are trying to claim that 34maga mantle. but i have a question about whether it is a miscalculation. it works with the conservative base, but what about the general electorate. >> and one irony here too is republicans will often talk about we need more deterrence at the border, prevent the crossings, to prevent asylum seekers fleeing poverty from coming into the country. essentially what you are doing here is also giving people a lift into the country. this doesn't do anything to deter any crossings if that is your measure of success at the border. and i will note, whether or not you are he illegally or legally crossing the border, you still have a right to ask for asylum. >> and governor ducey, governor abbott, governor desantis also possible presidential candidates down the road. abbott saying that we make sure everybody signs a form, they intentionally volunteer to be moved. >> texas has moved -- they sign an authorization to