ron desantis is calling him out on that but ron desantis is not said you are lying about the electioneing stolen but he has found a way to criticize his conduct during the 2020 election. host: republican, dover, new hampshire, one of the memory states. you are on. caller: good and thanks for taking my call. i wanted to say that i really think mr. donald trump and ron desantis should team up and work together and put aside their differences. i know a lot of people that feel the same way. we think they would make a good team and i like to hear what you would say about that. host: before you go, there are seven more candidates jumping into the race next week. there is some speculation about your governor, chris sununu. would you like to see him join? caller: i thought mr. sununu did an ok job as governor. i respect the guy but he didn't do as good as i would have liked. i didn't think chris sununu handled covid very well. i think he was very wishy-washy on covid. we are live free or die in new hampshire and i don't think he governed that we during covid. host: on a desantis/trump ticket?

nobody thought ron desantis would clear the field. >> steve: and ron desantis probably has a better ground game than donald trump does. hired enough people to knock on every door in the first four states four times before voting in those states. in 2016, when donald trump won iowa, his ground game, when trump won, absolutely. now he will do something better than he did last time. essentially the game was fly the airplane into iowa, be at the airport and once he left, the ground game end. do better job immobilizing people to go vote. desantis has door-knockers and spending money there in addition to tv ads. >> ainsley: this was caught on camera in new york city thompson square park. a woman attacking random people. this lady is having a picnic and she pulled her hair and dragged her around. this lady on the bench, the lady with the red pulls somebody out of her hand and throws on the ground. this guy reading a newspaper, she takes it from him. for 30 minutes they got her on camera doing this. what is amazing, with the baby, you will see trying to do that and people sitting aside. this has s

of the united states, and i am supporting the florida governor and that's what it will take for ron desantisrida candidates who are here in the day ahead. >> so, what do the desantis of the world, of course, that list is growing, but what does someone like desantis have to accomplish and how does he do that in iowa? >> in iowa, you have to work it. it's a place that specializes in retail politics which means you have to be visible in places like des moines and cedar rapids, but you have to be present. places like evansburg and winterset, and iowans deserve it and they expect it. ron desantis said he's going to go to all 99 contes and that's how you get it. trump remains the alpha dog and if you want iowa, it takes a lot of leg work and a lot of real presence on the ground. >> former vice president pence is set to enter the race next week. what is his lane? >> certainly, mike pence is very popular in the evangelical community. he's going to lean in on that and so much of what we've heard from pence in the last weeks and months though he's been critical, very critical of donald trump on a lot

ron desantis on the stump in iowa today.ng to discuss on the other side. >> now in florida, we chose facts over fear. we chose education over indoctrination. we chose law and order over rioting and disorder. we held the line when freedom itself hung in the balance. we refused to let our state descend into some type of fauci and dystopia, where peoples livelihoods were ruined in their freedoms were curtailed. >> so that set list is the greatest hits. that's exactly what he wanted to campaign on. we thought he was going to come july 4th, everybody flipping burgers, ron desantis talking about freedom on independence day. i don't know that that frame works anymore, david jolly, i don't know that president biden in his opening ad hasn't an already jiu-jitsu the freedom frame away for someone like ron desantis. >> the honesty and integrity frame, ron desantis is lying there. they did not embrace facts. he's denied science, in particular, regarding the covid vaccine and a false report, a false cited they made to the increased risk

to me right now, it is ron desantis. i don't see that changing, but you never know. >> carley: lydia, ron desantis and donald trump have been sparring on the campaign trail this week, take a listen to some of that. >> you really need to ensure we have a two-term president to see that to conclusion. you do one term and reverse it when they come in, you can't have it reverse. >> when he says eight years, if it takes eight years, you don't want him as your president. >> carley: ron desantis said why didn't donald trump get it done during his four years in office previously? who do you think had the stronger argument there? >> they both had a really good argument. between the two men, i know ron desantis has really well spoken and does end up winning a lot of the arguments there. i am truly split between both men. i think they would be great presidents and both have great qualities to both of them. >> todd: jamill, as democrat, what is your reaction to the sound bite carley played? >> i have to completely disagree. when we l

and ron desantis has made a few different stops in the state of iowa as well.week for ron desantis. the crowds were large. the enthusiasm was there. and i think you sense in iowa a willingness to turn the page and primarily on -- not because of what president trump has done as president in those four years. but today's 2024, it's not 2016. they want somebody who can win. they want a new generational leader that has a vision for the future, just not a complaint about the past. >> so, are you saying that you don't think that trump can win in 2024? >> i think iowa is wide open in regards to the caucus. i think the general election, that's the former president's highest hurdle is can he win against joe biden or kamala harris or michelle obama or whoever put the democrats -- the democrats put up? >> do you believe he can? >> too much of america has made up their mind. i believe it's going to be very difficult. i think too much of america has made up their mind on the former president. and, again, it's not because of all the good things he did in his administration.

here he is, ron desantis today. because he's trying to sort of scale himself as i'm the working class man's hero that's going to somehow make wokeness disappear from the white house, but here he is actually being himself. here he is. >> leadership at the end of the day, it's not about entertainment. it's not about building a brand. it's not about virtue signaling. it's about producing results. >> sorry, that was yesterday, but every day is basically the same day with ron desantis. the reality is, all he does is virtue signal. he has no policies in florida on insurance, taxes, you know, price of rent. all he does is virtue signal, woke, woke, woke, woke, ban books, ban books, woke. that is virtue signaling. i don't understand what he is other than that. that ain't working class. >> also, i'm glad that jen highlighted what's going on over at fox news right now because it is absolutely essential for them to run joe biden falling down on a loop, because they don't want to focus on what's been playing out over the last w

newsom is criticizing ron desantis.tis has added 319,000 americans in the state, people who want to give up where they are living to go live in florida. gavin newsom has a state where 343,000 are moving out, because they hate california. if you go to san francisco, one of the most beautiful cities in america, you take your life in your hands. forget about it. it is gavin newsom, just guy trying to get attention. he is the little guy. he is consistently freed people directly without even involving the parole board. he wants to criticize ron desantis. that whole idea, they have the consent forms and everybody had a good time. this is the classic administration. the democrats, sanctuary cities, god bless all of you, come to us, until they have to walk the walk. he is just picking an issue to try to make a name for himself. it's absurd. >> why does gavin newsom go after ron desantis? why doesn't he go after donald trump? >> i don't know the answer to that. i think what motivates your question, i don't understand why adults

he is tweeting out that ron desantis is a small, pathetic man. let's get this figured out. that's what i'm saying. they are the ones caught in the middle of this. ron bonta is going to be looking at legal actions. i'm not sure putting somebody on a plane and dropping them off in front of a charity house in sacramento will rise to the level of kidnapping. rob bonta is thinking about running for governor. there is no shortage of political roles in this drama. ama: you are right. thank you. dan: also, a ceremony was held in sacramento on the floor at the state senate and the assembly to honor san francisco's sister roma. there is controversy, some and republicans have called her a deeply offensive figure while others consider hurt an icon of the lgbtq movement. leslie brinkley has that story. reporter: in sacramento, the polarizing figure today was sister roma, one of 15 people recognized both from the state senate and state assembly, as part of pride month celebrations. san francisco senator scott wiener invited sister roma to the capital as his guest. eight senate republicans

the race for theepublican nomination stepped up with president trump and ron desantis attacking each other on the campaign trail. desantis took aim at trump, who is the current front runner. governor desantis: at the end of the day, leadership is not about entertainment. it is not about building a brand. it is about results. william: trump criticized desantis for saying it would take the next republican president two terms, something former president trump legally cannot fulfill to get the country headed in the right direction. pres. trump: it will take me six months to have it totally the way it was. if it takes eight years to turn this around, you do not want him. william: as this front runner feud intensifies, the republican field is about to get even more crabbed. former vice president mike pence and former new jersey governor chris christie, both one-time trump allies now turned adversaries, are set to join the race as well next week. all this comes amid do reporting that seemingly further chips away at trump's defense about how he handled those classified documents. a lot going

the former president holds twice of ron desantis and rest in the low single digits. vernor desantis coming off visit to the border where he criticized harris and biden handling there. >> we will be the administration that brings the issue of southern border to a conclusion, we will stop it and fight the cartels so americans stop dying from their poison. >> the former president fired back and wrote desanctimonious showed up on the texas border with no excitement, he is a failed candidate and he would do all things done by me in creating strongest border by far in u.s. history, a total waste of time. desantis did score win with endorsement by florida largest police union. the choice for us could not be clearer, governor ron desantis has made florida law and order state, one of the most effective governors in the nation. t thattion has 30,000 members. >> carley: bring in jimmy petronis. this police union is in florida, the reason it is notable, they once backed trump and now endorsing desantis. what is your reaction to that? >> in florida, we pride ourselves on support o

and ron desantis has made a few different stops in the state of iowa as well.eing an excellent week for ron desantis. the crowds were large. the enthusiasm was there. and i think you sense in iowa a willingness to turn the page and primarily on -- not because of what president trump has done as president in those four years. but today's 2024, it's not 2016. they want somebody who can win. they want a new generational leader that has a vision for the future, just not a complaint about the past. >> so, are you saying that you don't think that trump can win in 2024? >> i think iowa is wide open in regards to the caucus. i think the general election, that's the former president's highest hurdle is can he win against joe biden or kamala harris or michelle obama or whoever put the democrats -- the democrats put up? >> do you believe he can? >> too much of america has made up their mind. i believe it's going to be very difficult. i think too much of america has made up their mind on the former president. and, again, it's not because of all the good things he did in hi

and since ron desantis announced his polling numbers really haven't changed.s still 25, 30 points up here. this growing field only helps him because it distracts attention away from him of being the sole target while others are trying to fight amongst themselves. >> mike pence was trump's vice president, he was loyal to trump for a long time. so anti-trumpers don't love him, but trump supporters don't love him either. we all remember those rioters who stormed the capitol chanting hang mike pence. how might he go about redefining himself in this race? >> mike pence, he's a good and honorable man, but i think mike pence is trying to stake out his own lane. he's going to run as a traditional, conservative republican, socially very conservative, trying to appeal to evangelicals and frankly, i think that's a difficult road at this point. especially mike pence is well-known on the abortion issue for example. he'll take the hardest position of all the candidates. not a great issue, frankly n a general election, and i don't think it's that great an issue in the republ

he served with ron desantis in the house. he sat next to him in the house judiciary committee, and his advice was don't try to out-trump trump. relevant not just to desantis, but perhaps to what we might see and hear tonight from nikki haley. >> we saw that, of course, the last time trump was running against other republicans when they tried to maybe mimic his style with nicknames and what not. didn't work out for those candidates at the time. but as we've seen this field continue to grow, it will be interesting to see how some of them navigate this, including nikki haley herself, given she used to work for the former president, obviously, in his administration. but dana, i was watching this morning as i always do on "state of the union" when he was saying about the investigation facing donald trump and the idea that he believes it gives him credibility with voters and what that means o, i've heard such a different tone over the weekend as i've been speaking to republicans and trump allies following that reporting last week a

ron desantis is calling him out on that but ron desantis is not said you are lying about the electionng stolen but he has found a way to criticize his conduct during the 2020 election. host: republican, dover, new hampshire, one of the memory states. you are on. caller: good and thanks for taking my call. i wanted to say that i really think mr. donald trump and ron desantis should team up and work together and put aside their differences. i know a lot of people that feel the same way. we think they would make a good team and i like to hear what you would say about that. host: before you go, there are seven more candidates jumping into the race next week. there is some speculation about your governor, chris sununu. would you like to see him join? caller: i thought mr. sununu did an ok job as governor. i respect the guy but he didn't do as good as i would have liked. i didn't think chris sununu handled covid very well. i think he was very wishy-washy on covid. we are live free or die in new hampshire and i don't think he governed that we during covid. host: on a desantis/trump ticket? g

with ron desantis. >> should i make it four?with no notes, i look forward to that. we can talk about his zest for demonization, his assault on free enterprise. >> what i would tell him is, you know what, stop pussy footing around. are you going to throw your hat in the ring and challenge joe? are you to get in and do it or just sit on the sidelines and chirp? >> i want to bring in former new york democratic congressman max rose and former florida republican congressman david jolly, also an msnbc political analyst who seemed to both enjoy those little nuggets from both of the governors. so, david, let me read more from the "wall street journal" op-ed, quote, this could be the substantiative argument the country needs, pitting florida's red state model against california's blue state approach, instead of cat calls in the media, they could make a case to the public with evidence and data for the country to follow their lead. is what the country needs, i mean, yes, plenty of fire because it's fun to watch and it gets our attention,

ron desantis is super confident, no nonsense executive.k up somebody called him a tribute band -- if you have a choice between the tribute band to the real band, what would you go with? having said that, you go back without the extra drama more likely to get what you want which is a republican president because you still that people who feel that he's so exhausting, the three hour drive, if he were a bull in the china shop, he's more of a terrier, comes in, knock things around, but his big benefit will always be his biggest flaw which is he fights, he doesn't know when to stop fighting. every hill is worth dying on, you can't turn that up. send all your letters to jesse. van der beek 2024. speed to wait until he gets in the race come he's going to flatten the entire field. tell us how you're looking at the race at this point. >> we are finally getting a taste of what the race is going to be like. we are in the middle of the season, we are near the playoffs. that means we have a lot of football left to play and it's going to be a very, very

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host: ron desantis last month. i wanted to give you a chance to respond to that clip. guest: he is lying. he is making a number of false statements in his description of the medical community's acceptance and across the board wide acceptance of treatment of gender dysmorphia with gender affirming care. it's not the rogue element it's the entire medical profession. is telling that the governor of florida in an unprecedented fashion will reference what countries outside the united states are doing. i would be shocked if another study where the governor of any state would care what any other country is doing. republican politicians notoriously dismiss what other countries are doing when it comes to holding up civil rights. it's fascinating that he is now aware of what other countries are doing and he is misrepresenting the facts. the facts are that gender affirming medical care is supported by every major medical association in the united states. there are standards of care that practitioners and clinicians follow for the treatment. no one is mutilating minors, that's a m

ron desantis needs to prove that. republican-base voters do not want anything to do with anyone who is part of the establishment. being a governor, that's where you typically fall in the range of politics. you get tagged as being establishment. ron desantis has been acting very differently than your normal governor for a long time. i think that's been core to his brand. it worked for him in florida. the question is whether it's enough to work nationally to overtake someone who has come to define shaking up the establishment as his entire being. that's, of course, donald trump. >> erin, let's talk about abortion. it's more -- here is the question. desantis flouted florida's six-week ban. in iowa this week. avoided that subject in new hampshire for obvious reasons. trump says the candidates need to talk about exceptions to bans. where do they divide here? abortion is certainly in the election with republican women, with independent women, suburban women. how much is a big issue in the republican base in the primaries? >

and 26% support ron desantis.k their campaigns to new hampshire and iowa today. jimmy failla and i will be in iowa saturday, in davenport. the rivalry, getting spicy. >> we must put an end to culture of losing that infected republican party. you e we have a two term president to see this to a conclusion, you one term, they reverse it when they come in. >> you have to have humility. you can't be prideful, can't be just about you. >> i heard desantis say, talk about 8 years, we need 8 years, you don't need 8 years, you need 6 months, we can turn this so quickly, if you need 8 w 8 years, who the hell wants to wait 8 years. >> excuse me, i sneezed. this is just the beginning how ugly could it get. >> i think it will get ugly, right now donald trump is trouncing ron desantis. not even remotely close, you look at rasmussen and the polls they show donald trump soundly beating ron desantis, i think, ron desantis -- or team desantis is banking on that merrick garland will use law fair to imprison donald trump, that is thei

that's from ron desantis. ahead also and hear from senator tim kaine, he supports the whole idea. listen to him. >> yeah, it is helping a group of people but also helping the economy. people who get student loan relief, they buy cars earlier, they are able to buy a house earlier, have more financial stability, good for the economy and not only just good for the individual borrowers who get relief. >> anita: larry, quick reaction and then change the subject. >> that economic argument is a very thin read, a very thin read, actually. desantis idea is an interesting idea but look, you are going to have to have national legislation, all right. if biden vetoes this bill, fine. republican president next time around will gladly support this if the congress puts it up to it. one thing i've said, we looked at this in the trump administration, and national economic council was involved in this. education department, the education department is not equipped to do any banking whatsoever. this should be moved out of the edu

ron desantis bajÓ en la intenciÓn de votos.egaron a tamaulipas para intentar cruzar a estados unidos. los migrantes dicen que escucharon rumores de cruces fronterizos y ahora estÁn instalados en la plaza de esa ciudad en un campamento. jorge: en veracruz, 130 migrantes guatemaltecos recuperados de un camiÓn, incluyendo dos familias, menores acompaÑados. los agentes detuvieron a dos personas. maity: hablamos de la situaciÓn de rusia tras la rebeliÓn de grupo wagner. jorge: prigozhin dijo que no quiso dar un golpe de estado si no protestar contra los mandos militares. maity: vamos con lo Último sobre este motÍn. reportero: el presidente vladÍmir putin dijo que los del grupo wagner traicionaron a la patria, pero les ofreciÓ la oportunidad de unirse al ejÉrcito ruso. agradeciÓ a alexander lukashenko, gobernante de bielorrusia, por ayudar a negociar la salida al problema. en un audio de 11 minutos, en donde prigozhin, lÍder del grupo wagner, dijo que la acciÓn armada fue una protesta en un golpe de estado. y ante la posibilidad de d

back to the ron desantis question and electability.blem with what vince was talking about, may help in iowa, they do not help in new hampshire and do not help in a general election. talk about the states, if he were to be a viable general election candidate against joe biden, look at pennsylvania, georgia, nevada. if you look at swing states he will need to win, those social policies are so extreme and a lot of republicans are looking for a reason to come home. post-trump, looking for a candidate they feel comfortable with and testing out ron desantis. i'm not sure his electability argument about winning will holdup when you look at extreme policies he's promoting and cultural issues he's promoting. >> shannon: we have rnc criteria for the august debate. we have a little bit, you have to have national polling in three national polls. fundraising min fum of 40,000 unique donors per state or territory and 20 plus of those. debate pledge they have to sign on to, they will not participate in only rnc sanctioned debates and must support the

ron desantis aspira la casa blanca.a la ciudadanÍa estadounidense a los inmigrantes nacidos en el paÍs y que construirÁ un muro en la frontera. sangrientos peleas de los reclusos ante la indiferencia de los guardias en un pasillo, muestran videos perturbadores de la violencia en cÁrceles de los Ángeles. un recluso los encontrÓ en la basura y fueron publicados por los angeles times. una versiÓn en pasillo de la inyectable para la diabetes ayudarÍa a personas obesasa bajar hasta un 15% de peso, revela un estudio. comienza la ediciÓn nocturna. >>esto es noticiero univisiÓn ediciÓn nocturna con leÓn y maity. leÓn: comenzamos con una grabaciÓn de donald trump relacionada con la acusaciÓnque enfrenta por mal manejo se de conventos clasificados. maity: la cadena cnn obtuvo un audio de la conversaciÓn de trump con sus asesores donde afirma tener en su poder un documento del pentÁgono sobre un potencial ataque contra irÁn. [habla en inglÉs] maity: Éstas afirmaciones de trump contradicen lo que dijo recientemente en una entrevist

it's funny as well about watching the ron desantis campaign, with ron desantis on his feet, is that there where he was like, oh, no, is he more electable than donald trump? here's the guy that is going to beat donald trump. and he is the one that is going to be beating the democrats. and then he signs a six-week abortion ban, which is as unpopular thing as a person can do. and then he starts talking to regular people. there's a great video where someone says, like, hi, i'm rick. he's like, okay. he's completely devoid of personality. i love it. >> if you like more of that -- if you want more of that, and if you liked that, i will be joining jon, jon lovett, and tommy for a live taping of pod save america america" at the tribeca film festival here in new york. we'll be joined by special guests new york attorney general letitia james, a person named hillary clinton, and comedian roy wood jr. of "the daily show". when we come back, we have one more story for you this evening. and it is about supreme court justice clarence thomas and his billionaire buddy harlan crow. stay tuned for that. it'

it is right through ron desantis. she had many times this evening, jake ask specifically questions about donald trump. and she didn't address him specifically. she talked about the issue, never really going after him until later. i asked her campaign, is this intentional? is this what you plan to do? and they said, there was never a calculated strategy not to go after donald trump. but she just didn't see the opening until later on. and she goes after trump and desantis on entitlement reform. but for her to really hold her powder back on trump and give a real knockout punch to desantis in his war on disney using taxpayer dollars, that goes to show clearly what her strategy is. and looking at this and speaking with a lot of iowa voters, they want to resonate in some part of what she said with the life issue, given that she is pro-life. and her argument that she made to jake in terms of, don't hold my feet to the fire on a six week or seven or eight week abortion ban if you're not going the hold the democrats' feet to t

ron desantis can beat joe biden. ron desantis can be there for 8 eyes. ron desantised is the leader that we need. >> neil: oklahoma governor kevin stitt. the fallout from that recommendation, that endorsement still being felt. we'll see how that reverberates. a quick peek at the corner of wall and broad where the dow was moving along nicely. yesterday's worries about a pause and rate hiking. even though it looks like there's rate hiking to come. a witch today to a little bit of that rate hiking cycle when it resumes won't be that bad. whatever the case, the nasdaq, the s&p 500 looking at the sickth straight day of advances as the markets device the skeptics. meantime, show you something popping up more at the border. they look like essentially fed ex vans, right? they're not delivering packages. near smuggling migrants. i'll explain after this. >> the smuggling will become more aggressive as they attempt to evade the border patrol and get further in to the country. . unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain h

. >>> kfile investigative reporting on ron desantis and his flip-flop on dr. fauci on the campaign trail he calls fauci nasty names. but that's an about-face from what he said about dr. fauci at the height of the pandemic. >> if you are faced with a destructive bureaucrat in your midst like a fauci, you do not empower somebody like fauci. you bring him into the office and you tell him to pack his bags. you are fired. >> from dr. burks to dr. fauci to the vice president who has worked very hard. they're really doing a good job. it's a tough, tough situation. >> with the debt ceiling vote in the senate, melanie zanona is live for us on capitol hill. it looks like it's moving at lightning speed. what's happening at this moment? >> reporter: that is what we call senate magic because they can actually move very quickly when they want to and in this case they absolutely are pushing to get this done tonight. they are just in the process of wrapping up votes on amendments, none of those are expected to pass and then they're going to move immediately to final passage s

. >> la medida del gobernador ron desantis entrarÁ en vigor este sÁbado. >> asÍ fue la respuesta de laomercial de allen, texas. ocho personas murieron, otras mÁs resultaron heridas, hoy vemos lo que revela el video de la cÁmara corporal del agente que atendiÓ el ataque. >> y los restos del titÁn, vuelven a tierra, partes del sumergible que sufriÓ una implosiÓn con cinco personas abordo, los investigadores esperan que estas piezas ayuden a entender cÓmo ocurriÓ el accidente mortal. >> ♪♪ (mÚsica) ♪♪. >> noticias telemundo, con julio vaqueiro. >> buenas tardes, de norte a sur y de costa a costa, una gran parte de estados unidos estÁ bajo la amenaza del tiempo extremo. por un lado las temperaturas de 3 dÍgitos que no dan tregua y han dejado personas muertas en estados como texas, por el otro, el humo que llega de los incendios de canadÁ y que tiene a lugares como chicago entre las ciudades con la peor calidad del aire en el mundo. en total hay 87 millones de personas en alerta en el mediooeste y en los grandes lagos por el humo en el aire. mientras en el sur del paÍs, pero ahora tambiÉn e

donald trump and ron desantis.se were supposed to be the god sizilla and king congress o the republican nomination. they haven't stopped anybody from jumping in. they have not frozen the field. they have not scared anybody off. nobody is staying away out of respect. i think it's -- it's pretty telling just how much ron desantis has flopped since entering the race. he had the disastrous entry into the race and hasn't seemed to really carve a niche for himself. those two had all the advantages going for them. >> i'm old enough to remember -- you keep getting younger but i'm old. >> you have a fancy new hair cut i see it. >> a lot of gray. in 2016 everyone was talking about two floridans in the race, jeb bush and marco rubio. of course, donald trump came in and cleaned their clock. is there room for three floridans? are they fighting for the same votes and money in florida? >> frankly, no. i've been very -- you know, i've been looking at social media from florida influencers. i've been listening to cuban radio. i've b

, what have people there been telling you about what they think of ron desantis especially ron desa ntispared to donald trump? yes, there have _ compared to donald trump? yes, there have been _ compared to donald trump? yes, there have been quite _ compared to donald trump? yes, there have been quite a _ compared to donald trump? yes there have been quite a few supporters out and about here for ron desantis. they have been pointing to the fact that he has these trump policies that without the baggage, even people who are out here supporting in the heat of the day, donald trump said, "lock we're out here supporting donald trump, but ultimately ron desantis doesn't come with these kinds of legal challenges", so i think that could potentially be attractive going forward, but, of course t question will be when do other republican members dare to break away with the line that appears to be holding right now in terms of support for donald trump. we have started to see some of that. remember those remarks from the former attorney general, bill barr, saying even if this indictment holds — if thi

ron desantis should know that. releasing this new video of migrant signing consent forms, before boarding the chartered flights. look at that! in other new footage that shows some appearing to enjoy themselves during that trip is at a party bus? it looks like it. fist pumping! [laughter] boarding is private just for new video also shows migrants happy to be in california and saying, they were treated well. watch. [video] >> kennedy, i've not seen many kidnappings with party buses. when emily was in charge of activity weekend, maybe! [laughter] >> i thought i saw kennedy and emily on one of those buses and there was a pole in the middle! i don't know. a flagpole with the us flag. >> i will say that gavin newsom seems very angry. he should be delighted, that's a century state. he is the governor of the largest intrastate and he should have sent governor ron desantis a fruit basket and thank you note. these people want to be in the california dream but unfortunately will see homelessness and exorbitant taxes when they

it has to do with one person who advised ron desantis and donald trump and he is friends with both. said this three years ago about justice thomas. >> this a justice who has the courage of his convictions and willing to apply the constitution, regardless of the criticism that he may face, because i do think that he is our greatest living justice. thank you. >> after that speech, desantis, leo and thomas went out to dinner. and we are joined by joan biscunpic has more. sorry, joan. >> didn't you like that big bear hug at the end there. that is part of the roots of this tight relationship between ron desantis and leonard leo and clarence thomas who all have many things in common and focus on the judiciary, and ron desantis is now as a candidate is taking a page from the donald trump playbook, and doing nit part by holding up clarence thomas as a model, and interestingly, part of the playbook that trump had was using leonard leo of joining the supreme court to sought out justices. and also, used leonard leo to use nominees for the florida supreme court from ron desantis, and so he is k

does it benefit ron desantis who looks strong as a number two? at the same time donald trump is still a formidable number one. >> governor sununu has been critical of ron desantis saying don't put your thumb on disney. that's only one thing. the question is, a, can he be a king maker or an influential player? you heard him talk about where are republicans on the environment, homelessness. ry do you diminish your voice or grow your voice by stepping out? >> i thought is he going to change his tune on governor desantis? at this moment he's the second leading candidate by several metrics. governor sununu has been critical of him. we'll see if that continues or not. it's still a wide open contest. i just got back from iowa and i was struck to the degree with which if you like trump, you're with trump, but if you're looking for someone else, there are people that have open minds and are looking for someone else and are waiting to see the campaign develop. yes, he'll have a role, but i'm not sure he can be a king maker. >> chris christi getting in, he

and florida governor and gop candidate ron desantis was in sacramento. this was the scene outside of the del paso country club this morning where he arrived for a fundraising breakfast. this is desantis is first visit to the states and sending 2 planes of migrants from the border to sacramento earlier this month, desantis will also attend a fundraiser in woodside. and today now marks the first time ever juneteenth observed as an official state holiday in california at the state capitol this afternoon, california leaders and members of the black, california agriculture working group gathered to celebrate those who spoke at the capitol today say while important to never forget the past, they also are reminding californians this holiday is about looking ahead towards the future. >> people continue. it could be a day where we make walked all that we've done together and all that we need to do. >> you know, slavery. was a very ugly, bloodied business in the united states. >> juneteenth is also an official federal holiday. organizers of today's event say they h

day he's attacking ron desantis. and it seems to be working because like tomorrow at thi t s, nobody knows where ron desantis is. >> and i think in this that we t saw here, ron desantis was signing the state's budget. and what you find out in the state budget is that he's in infighting. donald trump once again in the budget, he vetoed a $20 million investment for the for the unit, for the university south florida's nursing campus during a nursing shortage because the senators district that's in he endorsed donald trump. he also vetoed point $6 million for opioid treatment. he vetoed drainage improvement projects all in the same budget. hehe wants to make this fight f about between him and gavin newsom. but it seems ver y clear talking about not being able to manage somebody's state, it seems thats ron desantis seems more trying th win this primary, more. >> i'm actually trying to govern the state of florida. and why is everybody moving >> w. bout >> i'm talking about the polls. i mean, clearly he's like he's not talk

ron desantis has struck the right balance.ty the doj has become politicized and we have the federal law enforcement apparatus that's become very partisan and americans feel that across the board. at the same time, president trump creates a lot of drama around him and his responses, even to these indictments, although they believe they're shams and politically moti motivated, doesn't help him much or serve him well. if you're going to fight back against this weaponization of government the only person running for president in 2024 is ron desantis. he tired a prosecutor and removed him after he decided to pretty politicize his position. and nobody has done that. and everyone running talking about draining the swamp including the former president, but the only person who found the plug to the bathtub is ron desantis and not donald trump. he's done things that president trump dreamed of at the national level and he understands where to go after this corruption and where to diffuse the political bomb, if you will. jacqui: nathan, o

ron desantis is not. he's belly flopped. nald trump is going to clean his clock. >> sean: is it fair that joe biden -- >> desantis will belly flop. >> sean: i don't have a crystal ball. >> he sent there up by doing an rfp. i had the contractors. he said he was going to send people to california. this is a stunt. it's pathetic. >> sean: i disagree. he did the right thing. job -- >> he wanted to help people. >> will you give the same standard to joe biden? he's flying -- >> coordinating them. >> sean: excuse me. you know what the? >> i'm engaged with the administration. >> sean: they're landing at 3:30 in westchester airport, not la guardia, not kennedy. westchester. you know why? they're sneaking them in when states are not looking. >> there's a different spirit. a different level -- it's different of day lights and darkness. it's not perfect. there's humility. >> isn't joe biden dumping people in mr. florida? >> sean: what is the difference with what joe biden is doing an ron desantis is doing? >> manipulation. >> sean: comin

he's the present of nominee. 45 on ron desantis.red to those. he is not in the polls, but i've heard -- >> a lot more sympathy for the republican donors. [laughter] real dollars for this exercise. it's really, anything can change. 40 to donald trump, 30 on the florida governor, i will split the other 30 between ambassador haley, former vice president pence, and senator scott. >> the reason was that it was a long time ago, the election cycle -- i had to panelists, just to force the hand to say where it is right now. always had wine women and song, and he would take another bet. finally, winners and losers. >> the winner, kevin mccarthy. if we go to the building behind you, a lot of people were wearing this even though they didn't go into the building often that friday and saturday when kevin mccarthy was elected in january. he got results this week in defiance of those low expectations. chuck schumer completely left out of the conversation. >> on a lighter note, t the little mermaid and halle berry as ariel. i know that is light, but

during his first week on the trail as a presidential candidate, florida governor ron desantis slammed the bipartisan deal, saying the country is going towards bankruptcy. former president donald trump says he would've let the country go into default. both trump and desantis managed to avoid awkward run-ins with each other while campaigning in the same state of iowa this week. while they're trading petty champs, they're also -- -- . former new jersey governor chris christie, former vice president mike pence or both said to officially announce their presidential campaigns this week. a third gop hopeful. north dakota's governor doug burnout could also announced he's running on wednesday. joining me now is my saturday morning political panel. victor shi, host of on the move with victor shi. and michael steele, former rnc chairman. and host of the michael steele podcast. also both being very good friends of mine, some of the smartest man that i know. so i'm so grateful you guys are starting us off this morning. victor, let's start with you. trump and desantis both in iowa this week for the

he is brutally going against ron desantis and when it comes— against ron desantis and when it comes toloud and brutal. chris. _ campaign was stated loud and brutal. chris. just _ campaign was stated loud and brutal. chris, just lastly on this, it's interesting if you are traditionally a front runner against in the race which donald trump is, then you probably don't want many other people coming in because you're already had and your finest things are and you don't want more people entering the race. however, the way the process works, straight numbers, is actually the more people that enter the race, potentially, is actually the more people that enterthe race, potentially, it splits the opposition to donald trump voters as it were. so, it could make up and in his position even more secure.— even more secure. that's a possibility. — even more secure. that's a possibility. i— even more secure. that's a possibility, ithink. - even more secure. that's a - possibility, ithink. eventually, i suspect one of the candidates will emerge as a not donald trump candidates and the question is who we

ron desantis was the methodologies of someone like bill barr can actually succeed at it. ys around desantis more. >> your take on this, ruth, because again i want to go back to this concept you have talked to me about, that david is talking about. normalizing prejudice against others, -- but then convincing people that that is in their best interest. onvincinso many of the things ye about, people choose authoritarianism. they choose things like this, they lean into people like ron desantis who tells us that they're working on their own behalf. on donald trump side, he announced that he is their retribution. they're going for this idea that you all are safer with me standing between you and those who are threaten your livelihoods or prosperity. >> yeah, what can happen, unfortunately, it's happened to us, is that when you have somebody who is so toxic, such a loose cannon like donald trump, who has so many legal problems, international money launderer, see serial rapist, et cetera, these people can believe that he's got too much baggage and come to settle for someone who se

florida governor ron desantis has stepped up his criticism of former president donald trump. desantis made -- >> is that how you say it? >> i'm trying. >> that's not what you used to say. not how his parents say it. >> that's how he said it in his campaign video. i'm trying to say his name the way he says it. >> not how his parents said it. desantis makes sense, right? >> desantis made appearances in four towns in iowa yesterday, touting his efforts to push florida farther to the right. while he never mentioned trump by name during his speeches, desantis criticized the former president's policies, saying he would have gotten rid of anthony fauci during the pandemic. and would have closed the border. >> leadership the end of the day, it's not about entertainment. it's not about building a brand. it's not about virtue signaling. it's about producing results. you really need a very disciplined, energetic president willing to spit nails and fight the needed battles every single day for eight years. you can't get caught by the left. you can't worry about what the legacy media says.

ron desantis is trying to make the case to look beyond.nadoes on. >> for sure. charlie, i want your reaction to a new nbc news poll that shows a growing lead for donald trump, expanding his lead with republican voters, primary voters over desantis. he is up by five points since his indictment on the federal case, despite his legal troubles since april. desantis is down by nearly ten points. you can see it's 51/22. that's a big lead. when asked for a second choice, desantis is at the top and tim scott does better. is he climbing up into third place? he might have big advantages in iowa as well. >> the situation has some fluidity. i can't help but think about donald trump's first campaign for president and after he rolled it out in 2015, he was -- i mean, his position is far more dominant than in 2015. he went on to win the nomination. most of the other republican candidates, with the exception of chris christie and asa hutchinson and will hurd, think they will topple donald trump by clinging as closely to him as possible, by not going throu