so ron fornier, and others are saying this is bad, you are not supposed to lie when you get caught. he is going to brazen it out. you don't respond to these things, you stay where you are and keep your third of the electorate with you in the lock step, let the rest of the people figure it out. knowing that if your opponents are at odds, you will get away with it. >> maybe that worked for him before, ignore the scandals, usually he has a compliant mainstream media that goes along with it. but let's say the house democrats and senate democrats in particular, who voted for this law. and now, casablanca style, are being shocked, shocked that people are kicked off their plans. >> and the president is paying a house call this weekend. going down to louisiana for a campaign stop. do you think she is excited about that? do you think she is looking forward to it? we have an election going on tonight in virginia that would indicate, no. it would indicate that no, that this is a huge liability for democrats. and this dire rollout and other problems are very dire indeed. and they're not going t

. >> ron fornier mentions this in his piece, the mandela visit, that the white house was off to the reporters but in other words they produced their own coverage. they have their own twitter feed. that's paid for by the u.s. taxpayers. people are managing that being paid by us. >> and they should be able to use the tools and that is fair game but i was on that trip to south africa and there was a lot of push back about not letting reporters in the cell with the former president and his daughters and within a few hours or a few minutes they released an official photo with the president and one of his daughters in that very cell. so if it was such a private moment that the press couldn't be in there, then why would the white house release a photo? it's obviously not a private moment, then. >> and other things have happened, not official but events that are staged or produced to put the first lady in the best light. i don't really blame them for doing this but i think it's gone to an incredible level. remember michelle went to target, the first lady went to target and they brought the white hous

ron fornier is a national correspondent. good to see you. people didn't like that comparison.ying you have to be crazy. people died after hurricane katrina. they died in the iraq war. how can you compare the failed rollout of obama care to that? >> that's the oldest trick in the book. of course i'm not crises. there is no comparison between iraq and katrina and obama care. there haven't been thousands of deaths with obama care. there is a correlation about how the presidents handled the crisis and how the public views them. >> we are seeing a similar approval rating. president obama was at incredible ig heights. now look at this. 1760 days into the presidency. president obama, 41%, president bush, 38%. a gallup poll says two points. 37% for barack obama. 35% president bush. they are neck and neck in terms of how the public dislikes them. >> it's a race to the bottom. those aren't the most important numbers. what held up president bush in his first and second term were even if people didn't agree with him they liked and trusted him. as soon as the president loses that competenc

. >> ron fornier, this is an interesting point, i don't often agree, joe trippi said the president ising with a fragile commodity, his reputation. and what happens to this leader -- >> i agree with fornier that he is messing with his own credibility. the reason is, all the stuff they're saying now is the stuff they should have been saying, they should have said most or the vast majority. hang on -- no. >> most people -- insurance's plans -- no, everybody's is going for change. everyone's is going to change, there are add-ones, there are add-ones to insurance, they cost money. >> this leaves people bankrupt. >> back in july of 2010 -- >> excuse me, the government had their own estimates. and they predicted 65% of small business, 45% of large business. >> going on individual plans. >> and now we know 80%, wait a minute, that is 100 million people, joe tripi that wouldn't be able to keep their plan. >> the wall street journal did a terrific piece over the weekend and talk about the debates in the white house, should we tell the truth? and they said you know what, it is confusing, let's s