i do think ron fournier is right. there was a point in this campaign, you remember not so long ago when paul ryan said this is going to be a campaign fought along big idealogicals. you'll see him today in ohio giving a speech about poverty but a lot of these speeches and brochures that obama has laid out today about his plan are really just repackaged vagaries that we already know about. but i think there is a sort of faux expense now that they're releasing these details but again, i think they're very sparse and certainly we don't have a sense of how a mitt romney would govern with a divided congress that will probably happen in terms of the division of congress.no one knows. so far, i think they've been able to get away with giving these sort of vague pie in the sky ideas about increasing bipartisanship and things like that. >> i want to bringing in karen bass, congresswoman. democrat from california. congresswoman, good morning. >> good morning. >> i think you've heard the conversation. there's criticism from both

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ron fournier got it right in my opinion, at least, obama wins night, romney wins season, obama faceshat he sought to avoid, a tight race against a credible rival. and i wondered, john, last night as we were watching this debate, you know, how i said after the second debate i thought mitt romney's tone was off for the first 20 minutes. he was too aggressive. >> yeah. >> and even the romney people are saying that now. last night, i was struck watching the commander in chief, the sitting president, the reigning heavy weight champ, every question turning and punching away, punching away at romney. every single question he had -- he felt like he couldn't just answer the question, he had to attack his rival. i thought he was -- i thought his -- the '80s called and want their foreign policy back. i thought that was not presidential. i thought what he talked about with the u.s. navy. again, this is my opinion. i'm hearing cat calls from the back already. but i bring this up to bring up the point, most presidents want to look like they're above the fray. last night revealed something deeper,