ex-wife and ron goldman. almost all 1995. then in october millions of americans gathered in front of their duties to watch the verdict productivity in the united states plummeted for the half-hour. tell us how this, why this ordeal fascinated us so much? >> it had everything. it had issues of race sex to a degree. it had high-powered lawyers. simpson was a multimillionaire former professional football player, something of an actor in movies, various movies command he had the resources to organize and recruit a legal team that was -- allowed he and his gaze to go toe to toe with what the state could muster. in fact, the defense team was so effective in neutralizing some of the best evidence of the prosecution that the acquittal of o.j. simpson became, in my view inevitable. the verdict was announced the country essentially shut down. people refuse to get on their flight and telling you what the verdict was. press conferences on capitol hill were closed. senator joe lieberman said, not only would you not be here i wouldn't be h

goldman cutting specialty retail. last year morgan stanley took a&f to underweight. europe two-year comp down 25. u.s. down 14 over 2 years. >> they could use ronohnson. >> who? >> the running back for the giants. >> i'm telling you that that's a combination. you need someone so bad to recognize that this -- no they have -- they have real problems. and ron -- i don't mean that he's a great guy, everybody loves him. i threw that in i'm trying to be a nice guy lately. aeo turnaround shows, american eagle, ever shopped for -- >> no no. >> -- flip-flops. look for flip-flops at american eagle. i like to shop for flip-flops. the flip-flops are like 20 bucks. american eagle has better flip-flops. >> they do? >> great flip-flops. >> that's what they're going to build the empire on flip-flops. >> rome wasn't built in a day. >> ron johnson. >> the man who jcpenney still blaming him. ten years from now, nothing we can do, he wreck the home center. they got out of the joe stuff. >> what was joe? >> right. >> joe fresh. >> joe fresh. what was that? a coffee bran? >> new york i don'tno i don't think so. >> don't blame my predecessor, blame me. that's jeff im