we're joined by ron hoska president of the law enforcement fund and aformer assistant director of the and joe hicks vice president of community advocates. joe, let me start with you on looting and fires being set tonight. they say out of frustration with the system. >> you heard someone behind the camera saying this is justice dr. king has got to be spinning in his grave if that is what justice looks like that tramples on the martyrs of the civil rights movement that did struggle for real issues they're trying to overcome. you've got thugs and punches and hoodlums in the street and saying this is justice? in 1992 and 1965 when l.a. went through riots here similar hoodlumism and people looting and vandalizing stores and acting frankly like idiots >> people say they don't believe in the system. they say blacks are targeted more than whites and have evidence with respect to traffic stops 1, 2, couple incidents in the past cite by the the media in build up to this case they say they just don't believe the prosecutor tried his hardest. >> i think we need some leadership to emerge from this