we spoke to ron hubbard of atlas survivor shelters in los angeles.id business is booming, up 400% in just the past month. i asked him what happens if there isn't a financial apocalypse, do you get a refund? here's his answer? >> there's no refunds. you got a cool man cave after that. let's hope they never to be used for what they're intended for. i mean, just like [ inaudible ] you don't want to use them but you peace of mind. >> the most popular shelter is called the hillside retreat. that fits six people, 510 square feet, full bathroom, kitchen, den, dining room, the price $85,000. there are some 2 million preppers right now, multimillion-dollar industry that caters to these preppers according to different reports. there are worries about the government, and shutdown default boosting business like mre star the maker of prepackaged meals ready to eat saying orders in september shot up double any month from january to august. buying a shelter or a gun doesn't interest you, hubbard says at least have food on hand, some water, purification devices and