jeremy siegel, or pick a guy like ron baron who is always optimistic. suddenly we're at 17,000 and you look at those guys and you snicker. but we're at 17,000. who has been right? al.ableson, who is so smart that he's always bear yesh from 800 and -- >> maybe it just doesn't change. >> you guys are late, great -- if i came back as something, i would come back as appear embarrassing -- >> they have celebrity status. >> they do. and you can feel like a contrarian because you feel like the market is the crowd. >> finally, their moment and it's going to get worse or it's over. >> let's get to the conflict. we're talking to martin fletcher who is legendary. i used to watch him. but now i get to toss him which is an honor. martin fletcher joins us from tel aviv. hello again, martin. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm well. good to see you and glad to be able to speak to you. did you ever find out what that was yesterday that you were hearing? were those more rockets? >> well, there were more air raid sirens, but no rockets over tel aviv at that time. hamas today issu