that's why you see a lot of us are concerned about this. >> senators like ron johnson are expressing's declaration. both in the capital and in the courtroom, but with me now is charlie sikes. charlie, republicans have not expressed caution. you heard ron johnson saying he was not particularly happy with it a moment ago, but susan collins doesn't believe in it either. marco rubio doesn't think this is a good will they vote against the president from using these pou bowe powers. >> i think this will take the house and the senate, and look, there is a lot reasons they ought to be concerned about this. you are seeding power to the checktives, there is a constitutional question of checks and balances. and there is the precedent of the power it creates, even those not concerned about the legal niceties of this. obviously president trump would veto any action, but i think it is important for congress to force that veto. and it would be the first time that a substantial number of republicans have basically said look, we're willing to go along with you, but not when it comes to fundamental is

. >> earlier, i caught up with republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin, the chairman of the homeland security committee. he's gathering of world leaders at the munich security congress. >> let me start with the declaration of a national emergency. i'm aware there have been dozens of them since the law was passed in 1976, but by our research and reading and our understanding this is the first national emergency that has attempted to spend money that congress specifically said no to. how is that not presidential overreach? >> think your research is probably correct. i think many of us are concerned about this. i think past congresses have tho much power and this is an expansion of better way toeed tr dem depps to support when they supported in the past and give this president funding for better barriers which we need. we need to secure our border and we need to fix our horribly broken legal and illegal immigration system and hopefully after this impasse now is over in terms of funding the government we can sit down on a bipartisan basis and start solving these problems and fix our syst

joining us now from wisconsin, senator ron johnson, chair of the homeland security committee.tart with the most recent news. both the u.s. and russia have just announced that they are pulling out of compliance with the medium-range missile treatiful president trump has been saying that treaty. president trump has been saying that the russians have been violating that treaty for some period of time. the question is, though, with no new talks scheduled to try to update the treaty and with the long-range ballistic missile treaty running out in two years, are we headed for a new arms race? >> well, good morning, chris. and, of course, the most salient point here is that russia has been violating this treaty for at least six years testing and now, we believe, deploying these intermediate-range nuclear missiles. and what's so dangerous about these is, you know, they -- if something flies out of those batteries, it's only a couple minutes before it hits the targets probably in the european theater, so we have very little warning, and all kinds of miscalculations could occur. so it's

(hablan inglÉs) pero la decisiÓn del presidente preocupa incluso a algunos republicanos, como a ron johnsont the press >> este domingo un asesor de la casa blanca dijo que estÁ garantizado que el presidente de fin de semana rÁ su declaratoria * de emergencia >> sin embargo, entrevistado en fox , mÜller no respondiÓ si ejercicio rÍa por primera vez * el veto en su administraciÓn, pero si lo hubiera el congreso tendrÍa margen para responder, mÁs alla que como sostiene los femas de fondos, siguen sin resolverse >> el proyecto de ley que dimos la semana pasada, fue una soluciÓn para no cerrar el gobierno, no fue una soluciÓn a la falla de nuestro sistema de migraciÓn. >> esta semana se espera la introducciÓn de nuevas demandas contra de declaratoria de trump como varios estados encabezados por california o de la uniÓn americana de libertades civiles que este lunes protestara en las calles de la capital, en washington, javier vega noticias telemundo. >> pero, ni esta declaraciÓn de una emergencia nacional ha detenido a los migrantes que buscan llegar a estados unidos, ahora una sÉptima caravana

. >> we spoke with senator ron johnson earlier today and we have a clip of what he said.ironment keeps changing. there is lots of uncertainty. what businesses want is certain and stable environment as possible. markets change. apple reported less demand for their products. that affects the equation. in general, all the incentives that were given were perspective. >> did things really change? >> that is the talking point for anyone defending this project. they will not pay the subsidies if they don't create the jobs or invest. the issue is the state has already invested money in man-hours and the local counties invested $130 million of their own funds. has committed to related road projects. he was talking earlier about how difficult it is to higher in the state. 13,000is talking about workers added to the talent full. wage subsidy. that makes no sense. >> he should know because he was a leader in manufacturing before he was a senator. out more about this in the latest edition of bloomberg businessweek. >> time for smart charts. >> joining me today is an analyst from oppen

. >> reporter: ron johnson or marco rubio said that they are concerned with this declaration as well and they say it is possible that the president is overstepping his authority. and others like lindsey graham are sticking with president trump. reporting in or to take, i am allison barber. >>> lindsey graham said he will investigate the explosive claims by the former of any fbi director, andrew mccabe told 60 minutes that at one point, the justice department talked about moving president trump, removing him from office. >> he was dismissed from the fbi for leaking information to the press, you have to remember the source here. >> it is alarming, there were apparently folks at the highest levels of our government considering whether our president is fit to serve. >> the use of the 25th amendment, that will allow for the removal of the president deemed unfit to serve. and there are concerns with president trump's relationip with russian leaders. >>> the state department spokeswoman spoke and was expected to be the replacement for nikki haley. she issued a statement saying that it would

ron johnson was at target, ceo of jcpenney. angela ahrendts from burberry.owett was at one of the -- best buy in the united kingdom and working retail in europe right now for a woman's clothing company. this is something new for apple, putting an operations person, people person in charge of retail. it is a new formula for them. people have complained about apple's retail operations in the past and this might do the trick. she is the academy of what apple does best. there are plenty of things to criticize apple for, but the things they have done best, she has been in charge of. emily: mark gurman will keep us updated. roger mcnamee is sticking with me. well, there is a sign that demand for super bowl ads may be peaking. along with the size of the audience. research of cancer media says cbs took in $382 million in ads. compare that to when nbc got $408 million last year. ratings show the viewing audience was slightly over 98 million, the lowest since 2008. coming up, a startup that aims to clean up documents and spreadsheets has gotten a lot of attention from

senator ron johnson is saying the president should not declare a national emergency and rye to work toward that border funding. senator lindsey graham says the president should divert fund. he doesn't need to declare a national emergency. it's just like sending troops to the border. >> there are times for obstruction, i have engaged in it myself. it depend on what you are obstructing. if it's something big and important, understandable. if you are just trying to throw sand in the gear so the administration can't function, unacceptable. reporter: in 2 1/2 hours house speaker nancy pelosi will bring the house into session. this is the most of diverse house in history. and you add in five more female senators. the state of the union will start an hour after the house goes back into session. liz: here is the democrat narrative before president trump was elected. >> for those folks who lost their job right now because a plant went down to mexico, some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back. he's going to bring all these jobs back in how exactly is he going to do that? i'm goi

senator ron johnson said he'd want to wait to see what the president brings to congress in terms of a proposal, but senator lindsey graham said he doesn't think there's any difference sending 3,000 troops to the border to fill in gap and just sending the army corps of engineers down there to build a wall. dana? >> dana: thank you. for more on this, wyoming congress woman liz cheney chair woman of the house republican conference. good to have you here. the year started with a shutdown and state of the union, for me, always makes chance to reset the agenda. it's a couple weeks late. how do you think the president can do that tonight? he's got a little bit of wind at his back with the economy the way it is. >> i think he has a lot of wind at his back. i was pleased to see that he decided to wait, to do the state of the union the way they should be done. it's a very special moment in the chamber. i think it does give the president an opportunity to talk about what we've accomplished so far, in terms of economic growth, increased security for the nation. and also what needs to be done goin

republicans, ron johnson -- >> all of this conversation can be avoided if congress would do it's job.f our legislature to make good on keeping us all safe, putting something on the president's desk. i see your graph up often on cnn with the illegal crossings. that tells one sliver of a story. i was in a briefing the other day. we got a new briefing from homeland security investigations. i will post it to my twitter later today. they are showing how much i.c.e. and homeland security are stopping in terms of the smuggling, the trafficking. it's not manufactured. when you see a surveillance of fentanyl like you saw ten days ago at a port of entry in arizona, that is what we know about. >> a wall wouldn't have made a difference. >> what about what we don't know about? if we can save one, two, ten americans from getting those drugs into the community, from being trafficked, from being smuggled -- if we can solve the humanitarian crisis on the other side of the border. i'm very sad and very concerned that people are taking these kids on perilous journeys. >> we cover the opioid crisis frequ

marco rubio, ron johnson, john core flynn, thom tillis and susan collins. senator rubio really is attacking this. i want your reaction to senator rubio saying we have a crisis at our southern border but no crisis justifies violating the constitution. he says the democrats could use this for the green new deal. >> president obama used it 18 times. but you have to understand why we are here. they have been working on border security since ronald reagan and we do not have it. we have all these presidents with executive orders and the national emergency act to secure our southern border since george bush's day in 2001 and it's not secure. we have a different situation we have now. i would rather not go down this route, but the number one task of government is security. i disagree with marco rubio on this. on this i think it's time we draw a line and we get security at our borderers. liz: nancy pelosi says democrats are reviewing their options. nancy pelosi says there is no emergency at the border. >> when the president declares an emergency, first of all it's n

some conservatives, everyone from susan collins to ron johnson, a conservative from wisconsin saying there are serious questions about the president considering this option. >> i am concerned about it. i think it's a dubious constitutionality. as a member of the senate, i am concerned when any president regardless of party circumvents the appropriations process and repurposes large amounts of money. >> this would just be another erosion of congressional authority in this particular area. >> reporter: now, the key question i asked thoese senator and others is would you vote to block the president from going forward on the emergency declaration. they said they want to see exactly what the president does, what he is proposing to take money away from in order to pay for the wall. perhaps if he goes after army corps of engineer projects that would generate a tremendous back lash on capitol hill. congress will have a chance to vote, both the house and the senate. and where will the republicans come down? the president could have a problem with his own party if there is a significant revolt

. >> ron johnson, republican senator from wisconsin.an bill de blasio, who himself is thinking running who found himself in a vice grip between prressives, amazon and capitalism. it's an interesting debate. this amazon decision in new york, i think is actually exposing a larger debate between the risingc democra socialist wings of the democrats and the pragmatic business wing. >> chuck todd thank you so much. if it's sunday chuck todd has been, working to bring you thel st political news including an exclusive interview with the chair of the democratic national committee. you wantt to watch t 10:30 on sunday here on nbc 4. >>> oe again we are waiting on that news conference to update us o the deadly shooting incident at the manufacturing plant west of we'll keep you updated as we learn more in the next half hour. >>> up next, doug kammerer we have changing forecast for your weekend. u mayot be eating tomato soup and grilled cheese ♪ ♪ ♪ rhythm is a dancer ♪ it's a soul companion ♪ you can feel it everywhere ♪ lift your hands and voices ♪ free your mind and join us ♪ oh sorry, we were r

it seems the patience of specifically senator ron johnson, senator pat toomey, senator tom carper andator mark warner is wearing out about prolonged tariffs and trade. the senators thought the administration should do the deals with allies first and then it could be china versus the world. >> what we have seen is this white house pick fights with folks like harley davidson and justin trudeau rather than where some of the real challenges lie. >> particularly in terms of chinese technology policy. reporter: they highlighted the prolonged increased tariffs on china as well as steel and aluminum tariffs would cost the economy .37% of gdp at the end of the year. they urged the president to wrap up these trade deals as soon as possible. >> trade wars are very, very dangerous. tariffs as has been observed are taxes paid by consumers and when you raise the cost of imports, you impede trade, you raise costs for consumers. reporter: next week, according to the treasury secretary, there will be a delegation going to china in order to talk trade with china, continue those conversations that march

and here's ron johnson. it is giving the administration way too much power.his will be another expansion of power. that's why you see an awful lot of us concerned about this. >> and duckworth spoke out on the readiness the wall will take. lindsey graham brushed off concerns about shifting money meant to help military families. watch this. >> let me tell you about the kind of things that are on the table. crash and caress cue station at an airport i flew out of for 15 years. that's on the table. training construction of training at our rifle ranges where we train our troops to be marksmen. tindall air force, where we are recovering from hurricanes. pads and hangars. >> it would include construction of a middle school in kentucky, housing for military families, improvement for bases like camp pendleton. aren't you concerned some of these projects that were part of legislation that you helped approve in congress are now going to possibly be cut out? >> well, the president will have to make a decision where to get the money. let's say for the moment that he took

emily: senator ron johnson was on this morning. take a look -- listen.on the environment : keeps changing. there is all kinds of uncertainty. what business is always want is certain and stable of business environment as possible. markets change. apple reported less demand for their products and that obviously affects the equation. but in general, all the incentives that were given by governor walker were prospective. emily: is this because of apple? austin: it is partly because of apple that there has been pressure on the company, the global market conditions, some of the trade war issues, but let's remind the senator, they missed their maximum first-year hiring targets by about 82%. they ended the year with only 178 full-time workers. that is far short of the 1040 they committed to hiring at the maximum end of that threshold. the company can certainly afford to hire more workers, it is not just because of soft iphone sales. the larger issue of what the senator is implying is that there is no risk for the state because they will not give any subsidies un

ron johnson said it would erode constitutionality and republican senator susan collins of maine callsious constitutionality. you are an attorney. a, do you believe it is of dubious constitutionality and, b, do you share their concerns? >> a couple of points. number one it's not my preferred choice. number two, white house counsel's office has smart lawyers. my guess is they have researched it. i think the president probably does have the authority. it will be litigated. it's not my preferred choice. i don't think the world will spin off its axis. people are all atwitter that he might do it. let's see how they might vote. if the president does it i'm willing to bet a lot of republicans are saying it's a bad idea and he shouldn't do will vote to support him. i could be wrong. i'm going to vote to support him. >> what will you do if the president declares a national emergency? >> i will vote to support him. >> let's play that out. what happens -- and we have heard it brought up by senator marco rubio. if a democratic president were to say climate change is a national emergency. i'm deman

we hear from stephen miller, wisconsin republican ron johnson and jim jordan and house intelligence committee chair adam schiff of california. >> if both of the house and senate approve a resolution, which they are allowed to, and is specifically called for and they pass it in the s

i actually caught up with ron johnson, who's a wisconsin republican senator.o support this deal? he said, waiting to see what the president is thinking doesn't make much sense to support something he's going to veto. and even john thune, the number two republican in the senate, just told reporters, they're waiting to see what the president will do, because they're not willing to cross the president on this issue. democrats will say, put something on the floor, get a veto-proof majority if necessary, but a lot of republicans don't want to go there. they want the president to get behind this, which is why we're in a bit of holding pattern and the president again causing major anxiety on capitol hill, on the eve of this shutdown deadline by tomorrow night, ana? >> manu raju on capitol hill for us, with the play by play. and dana bash is here with me, she's cnn's chief

we hear from stephen miller, wisconsin republican senator ron johnson, ohio republican congressman jim jordan, and house intelligence committee chair democrat adam schiff of california.

let's listen to republican senator ron johnson from wisconsin talking with nbc's chuck todd about how he's going to vote. >> where would you vote that? >> i'm going to liook at the cae the president makes and look at how quickly this money is going to be spent versus what he's going to use. if he's not going to be spending it this fiscal year or early in the next fiscal year, i would have my doubts. >> nothing too definitive there. what are the odds at that resolution will have enough republican votes in the senate? is this mainly a bicycle vote? >> i mean -- a symbolic vote? >> i mean, i don't see enough republicans going on board to have a veto-proof majority there. i mean, i don't see a lot of senators that are constitutionalists, somebody like rand paul getting on board with the national emergency. overall, i think most of them are going to stand with the president on this. >> dave, help us get a sense of the political equation here facing those republicans in congress on whether they're going to back the president's declaration, especially ahead of the 2020 election. >> yeah. you

wisconsin senator ron johnson not a happy camper about the president's declaration. rhetorical question for you that you can answer or not. if you can schedule it, delay it and say you just wanted to do it because this was faster, is it an emergency? i guess that's the question we're all going to face. >> you know, my answer to that is always quoting getty lee, if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. >> well, and that's true in life and governing. >> there you go. >> i think this is going to be a met aphysical legal rhetorical debate we'll be having for a while. thank you as always. >> this is here on "the beat" another mueller friday. as mueller's prosecutors win a new ruling to gag roger stone. that just happened. and it's big. mueller also dropping the hammer on paul manafort. he's making a new push asking the federal judge to sentence manafort to prison immediately. those developments obviously ominous for several

. >> ron johnson, right?>> jon, how they reimagined the idea of retail around the products talk a little bit about the significance of this. >> well, it is hugely significant because angela ahrendts stepped into the job five years ago when tim cook stepped in it in a bad way he hired a guy from over in the uk and john brown did not work for apple. at this point, more than half of apple employees work in retail so this job overseeing apple's retail operation is hugely important because not only are you overseeing most of the people at apple and interact most directly with customers, but also dealing with the working class, just in the trenches apple workers and all of the really complicated issues that go along with that. like, security checks coming into stores. things like that morale issues entirely different of what apple traditionally was used to dealing with angela would get on conference calls and work on morale issues and expanding including into china. that is tough job and she really transformed it t

lines for it to go to the president's desk, and several republican senators including marco rubio, ron johnson tillis oppose the president's decision to use that emergency declaration. this is building up to what would be a hugely consequenceal moment, testing the presidential powers. >> will you definitively veto that resolution that's introduced today that would block your national emergency if it passes? >> on the wall, 100%. >> what's the calculus that democratic leaders are making at this point, betting it goes through the house, assuming it goes through the house and being vetoed by the president, where does that get this declaration? >> at this point to me the house resolution is significant in that it's making a statement but it's a statement. the real way that this is going to be tested is through the courts and we already know 16 states have filed a lawsuit against it. it's going to be challenged legally in all sorts of other places. that's ultimately what's going to decide the future of this wall. but still, president trump is going to walk away saying he won. this is what he always

from the southern nations, we hear from white house senior adviser stephen miller, senator ron johnson, ohio republican congressman jim jordan, and house intelligence committee chair democrat adam schiff of california. if both the house and senate approved a resolution of disapproval, which they are allowed to, call for in the national emergencies act. if they pass it in the senate, it would be with bipartisan support. if they pass

. >> pero la decisiÓn del presidente preocupa incluso a algunos republicanos como a ron johnson que hablÓro el presidente puede vetarla. >> en un mensaje con dedicatoria un asesor de la casa blanca dijo que estÁ garantizado que el presiden presidente defenderÁ su declaraciÓn de emergencia. >> steven miller en entrevista en afirmÓ que el presidente usarÁ su veto, pero el congreso podrÍa responder, aunque los temas de fondo aÚn no se resuelven. >> el proyecto de ley de la semana pasada fue una soluciÓn para no cerrar el gobierno, no fue una soluciÓn a la falla de nuestro sistema migratorio, esta semana se espera la inproducciÓn de nuevas demandas contra la declaratoria de trump, como varios estados de, que te lunes van a protestar en las calles de la capital. en washington, noticias telemundo. >> la declaraciÓn de emergencia nacional llevÓ al condado de el paso, texas y la red fronteriza por los derechos humanos a presentar una demanda contra el presidente donald trump, segÚn los demandantes buscan frenar la construcciÓn del muro en la frontera con mÉxico asegurando que no hay tal crisis de

not only from his political opponents but from his political allies, the republicans like senator ron johnsonen to this. >> i think it would be tragic if we bugged out, left the kurds who have done the fighting and defeated the isis territorial caliphate if we abandon them to the mers east -- i use that term loosely of russia and iran and possibly turkey. it would be unconscionable. i think republican senators are sending a strong signal to the president we don't want to see it happen and i hope he is listening. >> jon: if the president pulls the troops from syria who fills the vacuum. >> we need to discuss that quickly. i think there is a misunderstanding and a missing link between what the president is stating, that is we need to leave. he is right. american majority wants that to happen, and those in his own party or congress who say if we leave we'll abandon our allies. what we can do is prepare our allies and also get into the scene some regional forces before we leave. we leave after we organize ourselves and our allies making sure they are protected. that should be the u.s. policy that

ron, you're based in chicago. chicago police department superintendent, eddie johnson, who we just heard, was very blunt in his assessmentf this case a little bit earlier, saying that he really regrets the amount of coverage that this case got and how little coverage general gun violence in chicago gets. ron, you did a big story on gun violence back in december. tell us a little bit about what's been going on in chicago? give us that reporting that we have not been paying enough attention to? >> well, the good news, katy, number one, is that we've seen a couple of years now where the gun violence and the gun crimes here are on the decline. so that's obviously always good news. but the one thing i have asked superintendent johnson this a number of times i've interviewed him is the clearance rate for homicides in chicago is very low. we're talking about a quarter of all cases here are solved within "x" number of months. that's not very good. i ask him, how do you expect to bring the crime rate down even more if the people committed these murders aren't being caught. so they know they have a challenge there. but his frustra

ron, this is just an extraordinary case. >> reporter: it's really hard, quite frankly, andrea, to come up with words to describe the frustration and anger that superintendent eddie johnsoni've never seen him like that, he's a very nice man. what you're seeing out of him this morning, the detective division, the unit cops, the beat cops that responded that night to this call, that they put a lot of time and effort into investigating this because they truly treated him as a potential victim, and then 23 days later, to find out that the police believe this was all a staged hoax, is really understandable why there's so much frustration here. now this afternoon we're expecting to see him in court, no cameras in court, bond hearing today for jussie smollett. he's expected to be able to meet the conditions of that bond and then will probably walk out of the facility here just to our camera left position, and then we'll see what happens going forward in terms of a trial. now, toward the end of that news conference, andrea, the police superintendent perhaps laid out what may be some of the conditions of any sort of plea agreement, that one, the city wants an apology from him, pe

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johnson and pfizer. iowa senator chuck grassley there, the chair of the finance committee, the ranking member is ron wydenf oregon. >>> i want to welcome and to thank our witnesses for being here. we that you put a lot of hard work into it and staffs and sports have done the same thing. the information that these witnesses will share will help inform the committee as it addresses the issues of high prescription drug prices. america has a problem with the high cost of prescription medicines, whether it's about epi-pen, insulin or other prescriptions in the thousands of letters that i've received iowans have made clear that high drug prices are hurting. i've heard from people about skipping doses of their prescription drugs to make them last until the next paycheck. of course, i'm not a doctor but rationing one medicine doesn't sound like the safe prescription for health and wellness that americans want. others have told me about leaving their prescription on the pharmacy counter because it cost too much. there's no question that researchers and doctors have developed treatments and cures for diseases where

we hear from stephen miller, wisconsin republican ron johnson and jim jordan and house intelligence committee chair adam schiff of california. >> if both of the house and senate approve a resolution, which they are allowed to, and is specifically called for and they pass it in the senate, it would be with bipartisan support for it they pass a resolution or disapproval, will the president veto it which would be the first of his presidency? >> the president is going to protect his national declaration. there is no threat -- he is going to protect his declaration. talking of they are about it, it is a statutory decision that congress made. this is a deep intellectual problem plaguing this city. we have had thousands of americans die year after year because of crossing our southern border. we have communities left undefended and international organizations. this is a threat in our country, not overseas, not in afghanistan or syria or iraq, but right here. if the president cannot defended this country, he cannot fulfill his oath of office.

we hear from stephen miller, wisconsin republican senator ron johnson, ohio republican congressman jim jordan, and house intelligence committee chair democrat adam schiff of california. >> at both the house and senate approval resolution of disapproval, which they are allowed to, it is specifically called for in the national emergencies act as a facet in the senate it would be with bipartisan support. if they pass a resolution of disapproval, with the president be to that, which would be the first veto of this presidency. point, he'se this going to protect the national emergency declaration, guaranteed. the fact they're even talking about resolution disapproval shows a statutory delegation the congress made. i want to make this point. this is a deep intellectual problem plaguing the city which is that we've had thousands of americans die year after year after year because of threats crossing the southern border. we have families and communities left unprotected and undefended. we have international narco terrorist organizations. this is a threat in our country.

from the southern nations, we hear from white house senior adviser stephen miller, senator ron johnson, ohio republican congressman jim jordan, and house intelligence committee chair democrat adam schiff of california. if both the house and senate approved a resolution of disapproval, which they are allowed to, call for in the national emergencies act. if they pass it in the senate, it would be with bipartisan support. a resolution of disapproval, will the president veto that? which would be the first veto of his presidency. >> he will protect his national emergency declaration. i want to make this point. there is no threat. he will protect his national emergency declaration guaranteed. the fact that they're talking about a resolution of disapproval is that it's a statutory delegation that congress made. i want to make this point. it's a deep intellectual problem plaguing this city. we have had thousands of americans die year after year because of threats crossing our southern border. families and communities left unprotected and undefended. terrorist organizations. this is a threat in