republican. >> you know, i have a fond memory of ron kauffman from massachusetts when i was running e romney for governor election and we had a street politics thing in front of the first debate. and i remember ron on the back of a garbage truck waving a broom. he's a long time republican to the win the election side of the party. so i look at those two chairmen and i've read some of the things the committeeman from utah has said as well. i think they'll be fair. i think they're smart as well. people forget, a primary election is not a government election. it's a party election to pick the strongest candidate for the party. those delegates have a lot of power to reinvent the rules at the convention. so if trump keeps being a sure loser in the polls, and this panic builds as trump keeps screwing up, frankly, and alienating every vote the party needs, i won't rule out the fact that something can happen. >> and i want to talk to you about -- you're a tv ad guy, i know you're a believer in them. watching hillary clinton here, she is going unresponded to, and it's probably going to be unr

would come in the rules committee, chaired by ex-congresswoman enid mickelson of utah, along with ron kauffmanon has been criticism of trump in recent weeks, telling local leaders, quote, neither hillary clinton or donald trump are going to be the people that we point our children toward and say, i want you to be just like them when you grow up. responding to the heightened speculation the rnc communications director put out a statement, there is no organized effort, strategy, or leader of this so-called movement. it is nothing more than a media creation and a series of tweets. but last night, supporters in a group calling itself free the delegates claimed several hundred delegates are behind them. and that they will raise money for staff. and over the last week, donald trump campaigned in five states that have republicans in the governor's mansion. but not a single one appeared with him in public. governor brian sandoval of nevada will not currently commit to voting for trump, while arizona governor, doug doocy, and pat mccrory attended private fund-raisers with him. would not be seen in publ