form other white house chief of staff ron klain. ron klain, do you miss it?i miss the fact we made progress, worked with republican whose passed an infrom straur dill, the act and c.h.i.p. and science act american manufacturers high-tech goods again. this craziness seeing in the house now, i don't miss that at all. >> i mean, look, ads write themselves for 2024. while the president was doing all of those things including avoiding an economic catastrophe with the debt ceiling they were doing this. i mean, at some level whatever arguments he makes about extremism on one side and governing on the other are being made by the republicans themselves. >> i think that's right. that is, i think, i don't think the american people, ones who vote ford republican members of the house, sent them there to do these political stunts. relitigating trump's op grumps as opposed to making progress in a bipartisan way bringing down prices, continuing the strong growth in our economy and continuing to make progress on things like energy independence and other issues that the presid

the special counsel called on trump's attorney to prove that a ron klain but according to sources wereive and didn't know what they were talking about. >> everything we did was right, we abided by 100%. >> byron: the records act said all documents become the property of the legal archives after the president leaves office. but he claimed all along he belonged to him and he can declassified any documents you want telling sean hannity in september. >> if you're the president of the united states, you can declassify even by thinking about it. >> byron: trump isn't the only member of the executive branch to take documents. joe but he says he's cooperating fully with the government. telling given mirror in february. >> i have invited the justice department to come into every aspect of any place i have any control of. there is no need for search warrants, what would you need? just come whenever you want. wherever you want, whenever you want to go, you can go. that is totally different. >> byron: a separate special counsel robert hur has been appointed in that case. a former vice president mi

what did ron klain say? >> this is the best part of having a laptop. i can say specifically. he said it was another awful decision from this supreme court. >> dana: let's talk about awful decisions for a second, okay? the president himself and the former speaker of the house, nancy pelosi said it was unconstitutional. the progressive left listened to the squad. what is an awful decision was putting the president in this position in the first place. now you have a situation where the president will say he will say it's not a normal court, this is awful, outrageous, they are against the students, they are against black americans, they are against all of these things. when especially on the student loan thing, he is going into a re-election and you can imagine the left will say what are you going to do now? they will demand it. which he is already in a perilous position anyway with his approval rating. student loan forgiveness does not poll well with the swing voters. when they think about awful decision. how about the awful decision to have it initially. the president could say

i think it was with ron klain, now the former chief of staff, when he called you and said, "hey, madamassador, former u.s. ambassador to the un, how would you like to turn your attention to domestic policy?” ms. rice: well, first of all, it was a really exciting and welcome new challenge for me. the fact is, jonathan, before i got into foreign policy in my mid-, late twenties, most of the stuff that i'd been interested in and that i'd been focused on really had been domestic. i worked on domestic violence issues. i worked on racial justice issues. i worked on poverty issues. and that was sort of where i began, and then it was really when i went to graduate school that i thought, okay, let me study international relations, because i had expected i was going to go on to law school and be some kind of public interest advocate or social policy advocate, that i thought i'd study international affairs and just, you know, broaden myself. well, i got hooked on it, and i never really -- i never went to law school. i got my phd in international relations instead, and i never worked really in dom

reflux stuff anyway, gentlemen, thanks to ron klain and mick mulvaney. way too much about your diet. >> i know. >>> when we come back, binance u.s. arm is being shutout of the u.s. banking system after the s.e.c. crackdown this week details next. >>> reminder, you can get the dcst of "squawk box" in the poast. follow squawk pod and you can listen any time. we'll be right back. it was just take, take, take. so i broke up with bad banking and moved to sofi checking and savings. now i get higher interest, pay no account fees, and get my paycheck two days early. get up to 4.30% apy, pay no account fees, and up to $2m in fdic insurance. download the sofi app and earn up to $250 when you set up direct deposit. sofi get your money right. fresh, warm hot dogs! when i'm not selling hot dogs, i invest in a fund that advances innovations like robotics. fresh, warm hot dogs, straight out of my torso! one for you, one for you. oh, you're a messy one. cool, right? so cool. anyone can become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq, a fund that gives you access to nasda

in attendance strategists including advisers to president biden like ron klain, former u.s.ones, heidi heitcamp, claire mccaskill. as the post put it, their mission to figure out how to best subvert a potential third party presidential bid by the group no labels, an effort they all agreed risked undermining biden's re-election campaign and reelecting former president donald trump to the white house. third way's co-founder will join me in another moment, leading the charge to top no labels, this despite the fact that america has been showing little enthusiasm for a 2024 rematch between biden and trump. more americans identify as i rather than r or d. peggy noonan wrote, if the race is indeed a trump-biden rematch, a third party slate will certainly enter the race. they have to get on almost every ticket to accomplish people, one from each party, presumably political veterans whom people can see, hear and think they can do the job, they'd have a better than even chance of surprising history by winning. no labels has made things complicated by saying it would end its campaign i

you've got everybody from joe biden's chief of staff ron klain echoing chief of staff to his campaign manager from 2020s husband is there. then three democratic senators who lost. i was wondering what happened to them after they lost to north dakota, alabama, missouri. and then you've got republican at the table who nobody paid attention to before they left the republican party win against trump. the easiest thing in the town is to be resistant to once supported trump. they grab you no questions asked, they love it. what's the purpose of the meeting? they got nothing done except to embarrass them self. i don't think joe biden is vulnerable to no labels, he's vulnerable to cornell west, rf kennedy jr. but 1992, he won 19% of the popular vote and zero electoral votes. bill clinton won 68.8 of the delegates at the electoral. he became president with 43%. they know it can happen with trump and they are scared. >> laura: this really does beg the question about the veracity of their claims to be the defenders of the normal order, dignity, the democratic process. the insurrectionist's are co

also i thought it was very telling, that a piece that ron klain also, you know, sort of sometimes logged visitors, sometimes didn't, sometimes pops into a meeting, maybe the visit is with a lower level staff person but he's there too. so there's a ton of ambiguity about how this, about how all of this is reported. ashley: but, you know, where there's smoke, there's fire. with hunter biden, you could argue it's a raging inferno. and just as the latest accusations come out, we see him schmoozing away at that state dinner when the indian prime minister was here. it just, the optics of this, i think, are appalling. >> two quick things there. ashley: yeah. >> hunter and his longtime business partner eric schwerin used to coordinate their visits with many associates, 80 times when he was vice president, hunter was there with business associate e associates and, you know, ostensibly to meet dad as well. the other big thing is you can see the changing tone of how they're approaching this story. now it's of course he's here. we love him, he's our son, and the other thing that hunter's attorney's

but a group of democrats, including ron klain, recently got together with never trump republicans to say how do we stop this from happening, it's bound to hand the election to donald trump. juan, could that be the case? >> i think that could be. i think that's a legitimate concern for several reasons. historically everybody listening knows about what happened with ross perot in terms of taking both, i think he got 20% of the vote, john. and in an election that bill clinton took from the incumbent at that time, president george h. w. bush. but just think back to the 2016 election, people like gary johnson, running on the libertarian party, he took votes from hillary clinton in michigan larger than the margin former president trump was able to hit clinton. i think democrats think wait a second, we were waiting for a match-up of biden versus trump and if you bring in somebody outside of that at a time when many voters are dissatisfied with both candidates, you know, it could actually derail one candidate and the idea, the reason you see the democrats complaining is they think those vote

it continues to see demand for a third party candidate for 2024, leading democrat strategist like ron klainaborating according to no labels on this effort, byron. will it materialize? >> i don't think so. i don't think it will in any significant way. you actually have people scared really on both sides. you have some anti-trump forces worried that a no labels candidate would take support from president biden and allow president trump to win election again. so you have kind of a bipartisan opposition to a no labels candidate and we should say no labels has been around for quite a while. in the past it leaned democrat. but it has never produced a candidate who made any real difference in the election. maria: any thoughts on the republican side of things, byron? donald trump still in the lead despite this indictment. >> yeah, you know what's interesting, if you look at the polls, trump had before the manhattan indictment had a pretty consistent 15 point lead over ron desantis and since the manhattan indictment he's had a pretty consistent 30 point lead over desantis and as far as we can tell f

ron klain, president biden's first white house chief of staff tweeted it was my great honor to get toause the president was always interested in her views on key issues. she'll bring huge talents and determination to the senate. it sounds like you have friends in high places. >> well, you know, i have to say it has truly been an honor. and i think part of it is how we operate in delaware, where we try to get multiple sides. as you may know, i am in our progressive caucus. i'm in the new dams, i'm in the women's caucus, i'm in the congressional black caucus and was an assistant whip. so, i try to keep my finger on the pulse, but especially on the pulse of delaware. so, it's been great to work with the administration as well as ron and the president as well. >> what are you hoping to accomplish in the senate? >> you know, i have to tell you, you know, listening to delawareans, i start with the things that we've been working on for the past six years. and that's everything from jobs and the economy, that focused, and our supply chains, to lowering the cost of prescription drugs for our s

fox has learned democratic strategist including former biden chief of staff ron klain and anti-trumpublican recently met to discuss ways to limit the impact and alternative candidate would have. the centrist group no label blasted the meeting writing quoted two parties sadly would rather quash our effort than compete against it. former president obama is urging voters not to look elsewhere. obama says he has doubts about two specific republican candidates former u.n. ambassador nikki haley and south carolina senator tim scott. >> i think there is a long history of african-american or other minority candidates within the republican party everything is great and we all can make it. >> scott and haley firing back. >> haley tweeting today barack obama set minorities back by signaling them out as victims instead of empowering them. senator scott adding democrats deny our progress to protect their power. >> both senator scott and nikki haley continue to trail president trump in the polls and just this week, bret, the rnc reminded the candidates that if they want to be on the debate stage i

some more news from washington this weekend the news broke that biden's chief of staff ron klain is steppingp. klain said, look, i hate leaving you with such a mess, but i will anyway. [ laughter ] of course being biden's chief of staff is a tough job. you have to be able to write and speak in size 72 font. [ laughter ] "your tie is crooked oh, forget it. [ laughter ] at first it was unclear who was stepping down because biden calls everyone chief [ laughter ] "hey, chief. well, get this tiktok just confirmed that some of its employees have the power to decide which videos go viral. yeah, it's crazy so, basically employees make the decision that this should not go viral - >> so one thing that people have asked if i've tried quite a lot is boba. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: but this should go viral -- >> poke a hole in it [ chokes ] [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> steve: what >> jimmy: here's another example. employees decided that this should not go viral -- >> whoo! [ screaming >> jimmy: but this should -- >> us teachers would never ask you students to do anything we wouldn't do ourselves. [ laughte

ron klain, thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thanks, chris. >> that is all in for this thursday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. >> chris hayes, i'm in favor of robust transparency with regards to health and everything as -- >> you want to know my -- no, i'm just kidding. >> no, i know it. i triple--- it's painful to watch people trip. >> no, it's the worst. are you kidding? it's the worst. it's the worst. >> it is such a vulnerable moment for anyone that trips. >> and then the recovery onstage -- anyway, it's just -- >> it was funny. he got back off air force one and he said, i was in. begged literally sandbagged. >> -- thank, you my friend. as always -- >> you bet. >> and thank you at-home for joining us this evening. >> in july 2021, joe biden had been president for more than half a year. but the last days of the trump administration which still very much being reported on. the ways in which trump had tried to overturn the 2020 election in this series of escalating maneuvers, which ultimately resulted, of course, in the attack on the u.s. capit

ron klain, thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thanks, chris. >> that is all in for

laughter ] switching -- switching gears, you guys see this last night white house chief of staff ron klainially stepped down and during his farewell speech he got a little emotional. check it out >> i will try to keep this brief, but i cannot promise there will not be some tears this is the best job i've ever had. [ light laughter ] and for, then again, in the winter of 2020 and for then again in the winter of 2021 -- i'm often asked, what is the best souvenir i got in two years as white house chief of staff? it's this rock [ laughter ] this plain, and simple rock. [ laughter ] >> steve: aw >> jimmy: biden was like, "i think we made the right call someone get him into --" [ laughter ] "let's get him into -- get you an uber right now. >> steve: he's busted up over fred >> jimmy: he was only there two years. tom brady was in football for 23 seasons this guy this is going viral though today pope francis posted a tweet, and then a few minutes later he deleted it. i think you'll understand why. he said, "the middle finger, which is higher than the others, reminds us of something essential -- [

you've got everybody, chie joe biden's chief of staff, ron klain, outgoinff rong chiefp staff to his campaign manager from 2020, husband is there. . so then you haveocra three democratic senators, all who losttic who lo. i was wondering what happened to them after they lost they lost in north dakoty a and missouri. those three were there. and then you have republican s, the table who nobody paid attention to. and before they left, atthey lef party went against trump. and now the easiest thing to be in this town is resistanceg in who once supported donald trump. they grab you, no questions asked. whorted trump.they gstionsthey . but what was the purpose of the meeting? they got nothing done except pur to embarrass themselves and show how vulnerable joe biden is ands them s joe bis vulnerable to no labels. he's vulnerable to cornel west , to to rf kennedy jr. but i will say this ross perot . in 1992, he won 19% of the popular vote. he won one zero electoral votes. bill clinton won 43% of the popular vote. he won 68.8% of the delegates of the electoral votes. hehe ele became president w