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jeff, tonight, the new chief of staff taking over for ron klain, who chris whipple just talked about and they actually call it the jack lew model. so i don't know if that's, you know, maybe there's a plaque on door or something, but the jack lew model chief of staff deals with the world basically because there's a whole lot to deal with the chief of staff as it without having to worry about a campaign and know about the campaign people deal with the politics of it, but it's you know, it's it's from a journalist point of view covering the obama administration. look there are always people the room i mean, there are always enough people in the room and the people that they talk to, people who are the room that we heard a lot of what happened doesn't mean we heard everything and what i what i discovered in doing books after, covering the day to day every white house is i think that the reporters who who are in the press room and are doing the daily reporting, i'd we get about 25% of it. that's my guess 25 30% of what's really going on in the white house at any given time. we're going to

he's been in these rooms, in the oval office, former white house chief of staff and my former boss ron klainthis is why you are elected president, why you ran for president. i just summarized a pretty dark situation in the world right now. war raging in the middle east, congress paralyzed. you know the president as well as anyone. you've been in all these rooms. i, mean how is he dealing with these competing challenges behind the scenes right now? i, mean on a personal level as well. >> i think it's a difficult situation, no question. the president has the experience and wisdom to lead us through this. i was encouraged to see senator mcconnell out this morning on tv largely embracing the outlines of the package the president sent to capitol hill. and i think that's a sign it should have good sliding in the senate. we saw this complete dysfunction of the house. the house has to get together and constitute a house and begin to govern. after, all november 17th is coming up when the governor runs out of funding, the president has deployed to carry groups to the middle east to deter the iranians

have had lifelong careers, working across multiple administrations, people like our chief of staff, ron klains, you know, just brilliant and, again, has the experience necessary in moments like this when we're dealing with so many different, you know, converging issues, to be able to manage effectively and to get the job done, and then working with, you know, people like our deputy chief of staff, jen o'malley dillon, who had brought me into the biden campaign, during the general election, and had just been a real mentor and a real guiding light for me. she has just really epitomized what i see as strong women leadership in these positions, and she does so with, i think, such humility and also humor but also, just, you know, i think, relentless sort of leadership and reminding all of us--her famous line is that "we can do hard things," and that's, i think, an important mantra. it reminds me of a "sí, se puede," mantra that i grew up with. damian: oh, that's awesome. how do you--you're a cal bear. julie: yes. damian: how did that experience at cal, you think, prepare you for this? julie: well,

ron klain, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to turn to my colleague and friend, mehdi hasan, host of the mehdi hasan show on msnbc and peacock. as someone who grew up and thank in the uk and has spent time in media outlets not in the u. s. , i'm -- there is an international audience here, it's not like people are watching this over the world, but obviously what the american president says resonate throughout the world. particularly this extremely intense tensions. and i wonder how you thought that speech landed, reflected through that perspective. >> it's a great question because he often forget about the rest of the world, given the provoking a foreign policy. president biden came to office, reminding everyone he had a lot of foreign policy experience. he knows world leaders, he has friends around the world. while this crisis is showing us is a lot of arab leaders aren't happy with. him didn't want to meet with him. and we forget about the global south. we forget the rest of the world sees what we, so sees our double standards and doesn't like. then

jessica, do you think that ron klain was accurate when said that this was a savvy presidential addresswell, i'd like to quote the illustrious brit hume right here, member voter farah, thank you. this will be were. you're very welcome. this will be remembered as one of the best, if not the best speeches of his presidency. he was firm, he was unequivocal, and he was strong. now how you felt about it definitely depends on where you stand right now in terms of ukraine funding. >> and this is something that is splitting in congress who think that this can't be a blank check forever. >> but there is something to be said for what president was doing in defining his strategy writ large versus just talking about israel on its own. >> he didn't use the term axis axis of evil, but he essentially did define a new axis of evil. right. russia, iran, hamas and china. and we need to make sure that their targets, israel, ukraine and taiwan, something that we talk about all the time that he's got to be tougher on china are not incurred upon taking over more massacres, etc.. the love letter front, kim jo