i want to get back to ron mcclain. on the subject of bill clinton, we had a pretty startling declaration from senator kristen g gillebrand, was questioned about the seat for the senate, and when she was asked, do you think you would be in a different position if president clinton had resigned? she said, i don't know, i think this has been a problem we've had in society certainly my entire life, but we've ner had a conversation this important and it couldn't come too soon. under those circumstances, i think there should be a very different reaction and a different conversation also about president trump. are you surprised by senator gillibrand? >> i'm not surprised that these questions are coming back and people have to deal with them in a different context. people are struggling with the fact that president clinton did something so wrong. he said at the time it was wrong, took responsibility and urged censurism. but i think it's a hard thing, and it's a hard thing to deal with those allegations and discussions today. y