joining me now, ron meyers, spesman for the unamerican foundation and republican canada for josh to veongressman. welcome back to the show. why is this happening? >> first of all, in a obamacare funny enough they nationalized the student loan industry some 90 percent of it is controlled by the feder what we have seen since then is tuition has spiked. has gone up over 25%. we have seen average graduating student loanebt bill of nearly 20%. gei: youe making the point that the fact that there is lot of free money means that lleges are not shy about boosting tuition. is that right? >> i put it like this. the federal government is writing a blank check to higher education, but students have to foot the bill latern when they graduate. we are setting students to fail because we are saying you should go to college by the way ii having diminishing returns. you cannot mak a million dollars of your lifetime. they're not during people toward the economy. they're preparing him for the economy which is why we are failing. gerri: some of these numbers that we are talking about. we will get to the ide