ron morriss the director at duquesne university and the hole of the radio program "the american entrepreneur." good to see both of you guys. i started a company, as you guys know, with my brother. i am business school trained. i got my mba, i studied this. my brother, he is very successful, done it before, sold a company. he does it from gut. so what do you guys think? can entrepreneurism be taught? i'm assuming the answer is yes. give me a little information about that. >> no doubt that you not necessarily take someone that isn't going to be an entrepreneur and make them one but you can be more effective. there is action and analysis. you think through things but you also take action like your brother went ahead and did that business, started that business. you can also have that educational component and the networking component of meeting all the other people involved. >> networking, i think that's a really good point, particularly when you look at these things like business. you have this network of people you can call upon? >> very important to build a network. your rolodex, is very, ve