kathleen gillis and ron patagonski. and they know a whole lot about it. >> i want to let you know that wall street is at a stand still right now. >> kathleen helping us and ron, you are on retirement. >> kathleen, where do we begin to tell a story like this. >> five or six years ago, ron and i started, we met one random day after our morning mass and ron said did you hear about the 40 days for life campaign that is coming outs and both of us had not heard and we were active in the walk for life campaign. or the walk for life we were doing here and we thought this would be a good opportunity to investigate. does it really save lives and change hearts to open for the possibility that this baby within a mother's woman could have a -- mother's womof the b, if we prayed for for them. >> mother's womb, and cities around the world are ending abortion through prayers. we did it electronically and ron said. next lent, 2009. i am doing the 40 days. are you in or out. >> of course, we know the answer. >> why does it mean so much to