and with that the political phenomenon known as ron paul becomes a contender in the race to the white house so will his third run be the charm. and the throes of war once again from an organization that once promised peace so after years of military intervention after the end of the cold war nato is still trying to answer why nato. and solitary confinement in the u.s. a form of invisible torture save for the very worst of the worst criminals or so you would think will unlock the truth behind who is really forced to live in those tiny cells. that evening it's friday may thirteenth i'm lauren lesser coming to you from here in washington d.c. and you are watching our t.v. while ron paul made it official today he announced he will be running for president in two thousand and twelve and the news was everywhere as a very different tenor than back in two thousand and eight when he was considered a candidate of the libertarian fringe now he's going after the republican nomination but he is a well known libertarian congressman who ran for the republican nomination back in two thousand and eigh

absolutely not the only one that comes to mind i think it would be an interesting take it would be ron paul for president and rand paul for advice for. now. but i see supporter remember that the president is not the legislative branch so although i support ron paul one thousand percent i do want to keep in the back of my mind and i hope others will as well that what we need to do if we want to end this force called the income tax we need to get people who are educated informed have the same philosophical beliefs that we do we need to get them into congress outstanding thanks so much for joining us dave that was radio host author and tax resister they've champion. so who is ron paul and why is he trying to save our country well he was born in one nine hundred thirty five and as a child worked on the family dairy farm that high school he excelled in sports was student council president and met his current wife of fifty four years harold his head of gettysburg college and received a degree in biology before earning his m.d. from duke university working his way through school after his residenc

reagan you know god bless him was not able to accomplish the things that he set out so let's wish ron paul godspeed and one thing we know about ron about ron paul adam is that he does not change there is no wind blowing through the ron paul campaign so stick one's finger up and see which way they should go you know today we see it in an almost only in america kind of irony it's the use of the g.o.p. the grand old party but the younger members of the republican party that are turning to this most traditional of conservative message is going some say back to the constitution i would say forward to constitutional ideals but we've seen the republican establishment resisting this message resisting the candidacy of ron paul and in a way that a lot of us younger voters find demeaning almost losing faith in the party do you think that the g.o.p. leadership is going to receive this campaign in this candidacy better than they did in two thousand and eight if they realize that their only hope for a future is the party is with ron paul in the youth. let me think about that about you not also about all

show be i mean he handled it but come on but we have that about back ron paul they did a they did a really good job i think of being fair and they actually won so far as giving him his due on the tea party so all that. congressman paul black let's consider you the founding father of the tea party movement now congresswoman michele bachmann had founded in had that the tea party caucus in the house actually eclipsed here. she's not here tonight so should i. say. we can't tea party loot made at meetings together of course the tea party movement was started during the last campaign when there was a special day where they raced six million dollars spontaneously the city. was to be was the beginning of it but no i don't feel threatened. i'll use it to threaten but what's really interesting about this is ron paul went and back this up because he didn't go to the fox news reception after he didn't go sit and be skewered by haddadi like last time you know but looking going on he went to his own event that he was it was a for you know there was a tea party you had organized ron paul jordan page was

you think they could get someone who could at least right now tack article against ron paul with some logical consistency in a coherent these this christopher you represent everything that is wrong with the g.o.p. not only have you lied multiple times about congress and paul your kind of petty attempts at political manipulation or bad for conservatism it's shills like you and the republican party that have hijacked it away from its own principles whether you like it or see it or can face up to it or not american conservatism is shifting back to libertarian principles i guess you just can't handle the fact that the majority of under thirty g.o.p. voters support pollard johnson so if you want to hijack the libertarian movement by hurting the state of the g.o.p. only to slaughter us by asking us to sacrifice our conservative principles by supporting your big government collectivist candidates i would think so as aaron betterment of the republican liberty caucus himself said if politicians in any conservative libertarian coalition are simply going to use libertarian supporters to advance

well you have to have a strong leader someone like ron paul in grow up people. you know people who are wealthy but it's. i think that's all we're going to hear from shelly right now but i want to thank you so much for being on our show and talking about ron paul's latest announcement now meanwhile as you heard ron paul was a major military noninterventionist so we go from him to our group arguably the globe's largest interventionist nato the secretary general of the western military alliance needs but the u.s. president today barack obama in washington and he's been on a bit of a speaking tour in the u.s. as well this week now the north atlantic treaty organization has continued plowing forward with missions military missions in the decades after the cold war while continuing to try and explain and find a reason to tray and my horrible friends that means reason to be but its allies continue to enter into wars is nato still trying to find that reason to be take a look. at several decades and wars and leader still the question that's top of mind when it comes to t

do not flock to rome because he is a republican candidate they flock to ron paul because he's ron paul so what the g.o.p. needs they need they need two things they need one somebody who's platform and whose history as a legislator as a governor who witnessed that the g.o.p. has set out on abortion on maybe on social issues definitely on the military but then they also need somebody that they can then try to around the country for you know the months of the campaign season and say like this is the guy you vote for not because he's themself but because he's a republican they need to get republican voters out not just people who identify with a care but why do you think it is that young people flock to me and he's not a young guy a president obama is much younger yeah and then ron paul but is it because they have grown up with you know with this corporatist government if they've grown up during this recession they've grown up during this war on terror and they're the ones that are really willing to look for something different they're the ones that want to change the most because let's fa

hope not on this side of the grave but i think but you know it was certainly good to see ron paul and gary johnson both not only getting their points across and being able to extend each other's points and there are many ways to approach the issue of drug legalization and no rain on this with the national review which has been in favor of legalization of drugs to its great credit for many years long before it was cool and you know if that is all that mainstream topic at the main table is that do you agree on is this a mainstream talking topic and that it's all marijuana is going to shape up to be a huge issue in there if he doesn't call the action. the thing is that medical marijuana is in a way the easier issue because medical marijuana doesn't raise our international treaty obligations and a whole thicket of other issues i do think however that for example indiana governor mitch daniels is talking about changing our approach to drugs as a cost saving strategy it's a very pragmatic argument we incarcerate a huge number of people going to states and this is led to a huge what you migh

four years later, it is ron paul again, also herman cain and johnson, that's it. he may have stolen the show to legalize heroin, he was not, it should be noted, the biggest hit of the night. take a look at who won the focus group afterwards.

yeah absolutely and you know i mean we ron paul i'm not going to comment too much on how he came off last night he certainly made all of his points quite well there were a few moments where maybe his diction wasn't all it could have been but people giving this money they are giving it to ron paul many of them in a legitimate hope that he can win the presidency but clearly this is also idea money people want to get that into the debate and what's interesting is that even herman cain who i think i'm not going to be able to come down on herman cain side on a lot of stuff but the reason that he took off the way he did in the you know just in the focus group and certainly the media attention is that he was himself presenting a kind of you know almost. i don't know whether it's better or not but it's a jacksonian view of the presidency rather than a wilsonian view of the presidency which a lot of folks including some folks on you know the maybe the national review site over the years have projected have said you know we want to be big government republicans and you know accusing anybody bu

late in the 2008 campaign, ron paul polled with 6%.t now. 6% at the end of 2008, only 10% now. it doesn't look like republicans are looking at you all that much differently. >> well, it's better, and the crowds are better, but remember, this is the first day of the campaign. there's a year to go. so, no wing things are definitely much better. the enthusiasm is there and the attitudes are different and the problems we have are so overwhelming that i think the support is going to be greatly increased over four years ago. >> let's take a look at some of the issues for somebody watching out there. i'll ask them to imagine if ron paul were president today. let's have some of the issues the president of the united states is dealing with today and how you might deal with them similarly or differently. let's start with the raid in pakistan that led to the death of osama bin laden. would you have ordered that raid? u.s. troops secretly going into pakistan without the knowledge of the pakistani government. essentially violating pakistani soverei

as ron paul actually did. okay, suddenly we have to do it through twitter and do it through facebook. tim pawlenty announced his exploratory committee with this -- be sure to visit my facebook page today at 3:00 p.m. for a special message. exclusive to facebook. you know, there really is a question here which i ask -- does this diminish the people who are really seeking the presidency by kind of -- kind of saying, okay, just -- i'm going to tweet the fact that i'm running for president. >> you write a cole bum this at cnn.com which you say it is like putting the cart before the horse. >> it is. it is. particularly now in this republican field when you look at all of the polling we have done on all these candidates, the people, the republican voters actually say you know, i don't really know much about these people. so how about connecting with the voters first and letting them know why you want to run for president, letting them know exactly who you are. and then tweet to your heart's delight. >> i tweet. i do

oh sure absolutely i mean and that's certainly what ron paul has been saying i will say that ron paul and ralph nader and then excuse and and bernie sanders and cindy sheehan have all worked together cindy sheehan and i was friends with angela and so were dot com people here it is happening and it can happen and they come together around not just the atrocities of war and the human cost of it but also the economic costs of it i do want to say i want to come back to one point we were talking about earlier which is that how do you mobilize people well you can't go into the ghetto and sort of convince people that they should be forced against something i find that to be sort of paternalistic actually what is really to me the problem is obama because that is most americans are not political and their version of politics of the way they interact with politics is really through the head of states they don't actually pay much attention to anything else there is a tremendous amount i will come back to this again of psychological identification with the president of the united states now he is

but i think that a lot of republicans feel that the best thing that they can do is what ron paul speak as much as possible and run into those areas where there are some conflicts between himself and your average republican and that's and that's i mean this is where this sort of thing gets hashed out but at least here we can have that kind of debate and also ron paul does have staying power right i mean he will probably last at least until the end of this year if not the beginning of next so we're going to we're going to see a lot of ron paul if we're going to see a lot a lot of this debate where we're going to see some more. so some stranger issues maybe being brought up but at least we at least we get started on this by house i have so i think that a lot of the you know potential candidates this time around are going to have to answer some more difficult questions especially when it comes to going to maybe quantitative easing or what they think of the federal reserve and that will be exciting. i mean without this wild card being taken seriously terry what do you think does that make o

huge cheers when ron paul was asked about gay marriage. he says he doesn't want government involved at all. big cheers when he said that. also big cheers for rick saying anyone who rules out what government ought to be doing. big cheers for that, too. which is it, fielding a candidate against barack obama, are you rick santorum republicans or ron paul republicans? all the republican party branding is very ron paul, even if the republican establishment doesn't like ron paul himself, they like the sound of his principles. get government off your back, right? it's how the party is trying to market themselves right now. look at what they are doing in office. take the state of florida, today. the new republican governor is expected to sign into law a handful of bills that are sitting on his desk. is this small government stuff? or is this big government stuff? you tell me. the first one is a -- forced by the state of florida to have a medically unnecessary ultrasound, first. it forces the doctors to read to her the procedure, a script about the

my statement is more about marginalizing candidates such as ron paul when he polled above paul leand cnn showed him the bt against obama and he raised almost a million dollars yesterday alone so why isn't he a serious contender? guest: i think he might be taken more serious this time. i think the media in the past marginalized him but those factors that you mentioned are plain to see. he has been around long enough. what comes with that, though, when you are not marginalized and taken seriously is more scrutiny. and there are things in his past i don't want to delve into some of that controversial stuff abo about some of the racist things that were said way back when on his behalf mostly, it seemed. but there are a lot of things that were touched on. but from what i have seen he can mostly survive scrutiny, i gu s guess. unless there is something we don't know. he has been around long enough i think we know mostly everything there is to know. host: i have this tweet. was this sponsored by the south carolina tea party? guest: he was taking the 10 commandments out of alabama. i thought

ron paul of course has run before. has a loyal following and what's been fascinate for me is how much he has a loyal following amongst young people and the money that he can raise. so he's a threat obviously on a certain level. but at the same time, you can't beat somebody with nobody. and at the moment, i don't see that somebody yet that the president should be all that concerned about at least to the point of losing sleep. >> not newt gingrich? what if sarah palin runs? what republican contender is worrisome for the president? >> i think it's not sarah palin, not newt gingrich, not ron paul. again, you can't beat somebody with nobody. i don't speak for them obviously. i don't know who they would prefer. but i don't think it's any of those names you've just mentioned. at the end of the day, i don't know that mr. paul respectfully, mr. gingrich respectfully, ms. palin respect fwli, has what it takeses to win the nomination of their party in the long run. >> president obama met with the congressional black caucus and th

the republicans really don't have anybody to run against him unless you have a wild card like a ron paul you know it goes back to what bill clinton said back in the ninety two elections it's the economy. and what are the republicans do for an encore and obama knows how to pull that rabbit out of the hat every time his poll ratings are going down well as something really changes around to drive him back up so as it seems now it looks like obama but you mentioned ron paul is a wild card and you've talked a lot about the what you call the second american revolution where he talks about the philosophical revolution that we're having now when we're going to be able to get into that we can some our own we have enormous show but what's the connection there is that is that part and parcel of the same phenomenon that you're seeing yes is if it's really a a winner it needs a blend of two things i call it progressive libertarian progressive in the charms of you know there are a lot of people that care about what's in the water what's in the food what's in the air they don't like radiation floating

bringing you a full recap tomorrow but i still have one big question about the debate tonight is ron paul going to be able to dumb down his message enough to gain any understanding of the free market we can hope for right and for all you ron paul supporters have been tracking the money on throughout the day we are already over half a million dollars keep those donations coming ron paul two thousand and twelve dot com that's our so thank you to adam vs the man police check adam vs the man dot com to vote on guests and topics and find me on facebook and twitter as always you can e-mail me at out of it adam vs the man dot com you can catch the broadcast live as it airs an arche dot com slash usa and on you tube as i said before. i read every comment on this when they're posted on you tube but now with the show being set up in a segments as well as full episodes and with all of your enthusiasm i just can't keep up so i will do my best to read every comic in the first twenty four hours but only on the full of the so videos so you can do that or you can email me and out of it out of vs them and

ron paul sought the republican nomination. he was unsuccessful. n. raising money certainly in the latter part of the campaign. so ron paul up in new hampshire today announcing that is he going to run. he says right now the time is right and that physical discipline and he will be on with wolf blitzer right after your show to talk about his run. ron paul is in the race. >> so you say time is right? new and fresh? but will there be a worry that we've been there, done that, and he was the hot thing for a while? you bring him into it and newt gingrich. i kind of played it at the beginning but still it seems like the old guard trying to move the country in this new direction, they claim. >> that's true. and mitt romney is added to that list as well. he south the nomination in 2008 and we fully expect him to run. michele bachmann, the minnesota congresswoman, she's very likely to run. she put on an e-mail that said are you happy with the current presidential candidates? why don't you take my poll and drop me some money and that might help me decide if i

let's talk about ron paul. he made his big announcement on friday as well. is he in this to win it or get his message out there more forcefully? >> every candidate will tell you they're in it to win it as hillary clinton once famously said. i think with ron paul, he's got a lot more traction this time around than he did last time around. he's somebody conservatives are interested in, very align washington, d.c. the tea party. in the end i think ron paul's ideas are too radical for the republican party which is he doesn't think we should have gone after osama bin laden, he doesn't think we should have social security. put those two things together, it's not exactly a winning platform. >> it's a completely different playing field right now for ron paul. four years ago there were all these supporters of him saying there's a media blackout, nobody is putting ron paul on, knob is talking about him. now the air waves are saturated with ron paul and people know exactly what he stands for. it's a completely different test for him. >> mitt romney, the former massachu

my statement is more about marginalizing candidates such as ron paul when he polled above paul leand cnn showed him the bt against obama and he raised almost a million dollars yesterday alone so why isn't he a serious contender? guest: i think he might be taken more serious this time. i think the media in the past marginalized him but those factors that you mentioned are plain to see. he has been around long enough. what comes with that, though, when you are not marginalized and taken seriously is more scrutiny. and there are things in his past i don't want to delve into some of that controversial stuff abo about some of the racist things that were said way back when on his behalf mostly, it seemed. but there are a lot of things that were touched on. but from what i have seen he can mostly survive scrutiny, i gu s guess. unless there is something we don't know. he has been around long enough i think we know mostly everything there is to know. host: i have this tweet. was this sponsored by the south carolina tea party? guest: he was taking the 10 commandments out of alabama. i thought

>> we have known for a long time how loud ron paul fans are. he had an all day fund-raiser yesterday and raised $1 million. he will be there irritating republicans for the campaign process. on afghanistan, he's kind of leading from the front on this. i don't meet voters that are excited about the war in afghanistan since osama bin laden is dead. they supported it from the get go because they wanted to get him. ideas like this, again, you can look for the guy who is going to get the nomination. we don't know who that is. it's interesting to look at the guys who have an idea that everyone else has to respond to. like herman cane, answer something that we don't know what it is in the republican mind set as they grasp for a candidate. >> dave weigel, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, condoleezza rice told me last night that saddam hussein was a threat to the united states. colonel lawrence wilkerson is here next with his analysis of what condoleezza rice had to say. later, a huge week for the history books was also a bi

well he sat down for a one on one interview with republican presidential candidate ron paul and i asked him about earlier comments he made there with all this confusion coming out of the white house the government invites conspiracy theories here's what ron paul said. maybe maybe it's the sympathy i wanted and they can pop up on the answers they hey look you know we tricked into believing this is you have to believe something else but i think maybe it's more because governments like secrecy. they're not you know whether it's the federal reserve or our foreign policy just think how many times we've gone to war. distortion of the evidence you know and lie our way into war whether it was world war with it was vietnam war or you know going into iraq i mean they have to you know deceive us. and then when the people distrust the government then any question government is called a conspiracy theory you know and they do that to say that oh you're nuts because you're a everything there is everything is a conspiracy but i think the best thing is you should only believe the conspiracies that are t

that was ron paul. ron, there is a waning enthusiasm and support for the war in afghanistan across-the-board, even among republicans. ron paul has been on that one. so i-- his son got elected to the united states senate in the interim. so he will not be nominated. will not be elected. but he could shape the debate more than he did last time. >> mitt romney made a speech on-- in the health care related, of course, to the health-care plan that was enacted when he was governor of massachusetts. what did you think about that and does that help him or hurt him? >> he had to defend it for first of all it's the signature achievement of his are you pick-- public career, the health-care bill he passed in massachusetts. secondly the knock on mitt romney is that he is a little bit of a salesmen. that what do you need to cut this deal? you know, what do you want. do you want a little abortion. a little gay rights. so he had the stick on this. and secondly, he, the front-runner. the perceived front-runner if there i

ron paul, the congressman called dr. no, joins us for a major announcement in the presidential race. we'll hear that live this morning in a "gma" exclusive. >>> botox backlash. our report set off a nationwide storm, after seeing this mom giving her 8-year-old botox. >> this is the dumbest mama i have ever seen in my life! in my life. >> now, an investigation. will she lose her child? >>> plus, who's winning now? ashton kutcher signs up to save one of the biggest shows in television. can he revive what charlie sheen wrecked? >>> good morning, everyone. yep, friday the 13th. but it says friday. that's all that really matters. we have so much to get to this morning. the wives of osama bin laden, all interviewed together overnight. a senior u.s. official telling abc news that the interview did not, quote, go very well. >> it did not. but we're getting a lot more information from the osama files. turns out he was a prolific e-mailer. brian ross will have a lot more on that. >>> also in politics, ron paul is standing by right

the most popular guy there, based on recent polls was ron paul, coming in a whopping 35% in the recentough to watch it. he spent his night at a steakhouse. sounds like an average night for boehner, swilling cabernet all night long. he said there's more time for people to get in. wow, that's not exactly a hardy endorsement for the field. they spent a lot of time on social issues and of course bashing obama on foreign policy, despite the fact we just got bin laden. here's a sample of the debate. >> governor pawlenty, you've had plenty to say about romney-care. >> governor romney is not here to defend himself, so i'm not going to pick on him or the position he took in massachusetts. >> what president obama has done on his watch, the issue that is have come up while he's been president, he's gotten it wrong strategically every single time. >> most of the people in elective office in washington, d.c. they have held public office before. how is that working for you? we have a mess. how about sending a problem-solver to the white house. >> how many people would use heroin if it was legal? i'l

ben a big supporter of ron paul of course he ran for senate in connecticut last election cycle ron paul as i believe he's announced is going to run for point twelve he's got a lot of support is growing support if he makes it to the white house would there be a role in his administration for peter seth well i guess it's a bit presumptuous when i say i was i was with ron paul last night we spoke at an event in new york city was very well attended a lot of young people were there. yeah i mean first let's see a crime to get elected i certainly will do everything i can to help him in that effort and you know if he if he were to get elected if he were to invite me to washington that i probably i probably call him but you know there's a lot of ifs and there are so first let's see if if you can get the republican nomination which is no small task well peter said if that's all the time for we have this week but thanks so much again for being on the kaiser report sure max all right as i do. because there's other guys ready for it with a max geyser as they say however i was i guess president of eu

. >> congressman ron paul of texas, herman cane, former chairman and ceo of god matter's pizza. tim pawlenty of minnesota. rick santorum. >> jon: you might have to google some of those candidates. although i guess for the last guy i prefer you didn't do that. by the way, if you didn't get that joke, go google samtorum right now. i'll wait. yeah. (beep) believe that? santorum might as well change his last name to lemon party. go ahead. google that. i'll wait. all right. let's move on. perhaps the most well known candidate was 12th term texas congressman ron paul the only participant currently holding office. >> we do not need secret prisons nor do we need the torture that goes on in the secret military prisons. maybe we can take care of some people back here at home if we weren't spending $1.5 trillion a year on our mill tarism. >> jon: what are you doing? this is a weak republican field. all you have to do is compromise your libertarian principles a little bit, feed these people christian conservative red meat like the three most important people in the world are reagan, jesus a