that's ron paul's super pac.and iz a lot of his staffers. so when rand paul goes back to run, that organization is still going to be in iowa. he's still in the state and he's got the second amount of votes in the convention. so liberty folks are still in iowa. the establishment of what he built in 2008, 2012 is still there. rand needs to build on that 21, 22% ap enfrom an establishment person in des moines told me, if rand paul can't get over 22, 25%, what's the point in running. >> so has he -- are there signs, jennifer, that his sort of brand of libertarianism is his role in the republican party in iowa, was it more popular than it was years ago. until the rise of ron paul i always thought of iowa as the christian conservatives. there seems to be a fusion of those two things going on. >> ron paul was wring in the democratic and moderate voters. they really were modest people. now the liberty faction in iowa is its own fusion of tea party and evangelical. it's not libertarianism at all. >> the temptation is to l

and former congressman ron paul continues to fly to american liberty. the site starting his own news network he continues to criticize the us government overreaching foreign affairs. an rta interview with ron paul coming up. and at washington state prison. the inmates who are immigrants are on hunger strike the prisoners are protesting us that quotations and conditions of the center now there's word that prison may start force feeding of the inmates more on that later in the shop. a fan it's was a march twelve walking on the easter to you watching our team there ukrainians have been chosen their new leaders in kiev but washington has already found its support behind the interim government there and the white house has cemented that support by hosting ukraine's interim prime minister. the us has pledged one billion dollars in loan guarantees to kiev moscow says the us would break its own laws if they go through with this on to the foreign assistance act it's illegal to fund the government of any country whose duly elected head of government is did post m

he's a noninterventionalist issue that ron paul hammered about, there's more room to talk about that thin the base of the party. >> you know, the skeptical take on rand paul's future as a 2016 candidate comes from dave weigel at slate this week. he brace basically was making the case that when you look at his father, ron paul, all of these newsletters came out right before the 2012 primaries with just blatantly racist things in them and ron paul gave some muddled answers, wouldn't completely distance himself from them. ron paul had an adviser on the staff that cowrote his book that called himself the southern avenger. rand paul wouldn't exactly, you know, throw him under the bus. he would talk about him sort of as a victim. i guess the point that dave weigh l was making is rand paul looking well and good right now but when he faces the kind of scrutiny his father did over the kind of associations with the southern avenger, he's not going to hold up very well. >> we talk about these candidates now before they've assembled organizations, had to go through a whole strategic male strom. w

john: so, fewer troops, if congress approves, former congressman ron paul, now host of ron paul channelaid that is long overdue. ron? >> hello there, yes. i do. john: you called for this for a long time, are you happy? >> well, if it really would happen, it might be you know the right way to go, i don't believe in this, rumsfeld of talking like their a few years ago it never happened, now i hear that report saying they of cutting 80,000, i saw 40,000, up less congress changes their mind, they will, this is an excuse to pretend they are cutting in app area fo an -- in an area for purpose of buying more weaponry. john: they do admit they are spending $28 billion more. >> right. they are, they are not really cutting anything. they want to pretend to down size the amount of pen nel. -- energy pehl, my argument is they should down size foreign policy, if we're going to be policemen of the world, we are sending a destroy or black sea this is important, the i f35 we need that, i guess that american people say keep spending. they voted to give aid to ukraine. where are we going to get the money

but former us congressman ron paul thinks the us should stay out works of ukraine's affair lauren out from the man himself here on our teeth coming up. and western media continues its how the coverage of the uk and ukraine ukraine's sense but in their hundreds telling the whole story. and in depth look at that later in the show. wednesday marked at five pm here in washington dc i'm liz wall when you're watching rt america. when begins today with decreases in crimea. it appears that there is any war of words as a leading western powers are stepping up reading sanctions over russian military intervention in the region the last is accusing russia of violating international law. while russia says is acting within its legal framework. meanwhile elites phone call between the estonian foreign ministry in the eu foreign affairs she is raising questions over the identity of the snipers in the ukraine. artist peter oliver has more. police could throw me estonian foreign ministry is a confirmation that the police is always full and cole on the stove their own foreign minister as well as catherin

what do you think of what ron paul had to say? i will let you go first. >> take a glimmer of hope of announcement at fed they pointed the finger at fiscal authorities. in other words president obama and the congress. that is another issue with this fed policy of ultralow rates. they're enabling terrible policy, overspending, overborrowing in the government. melissa: right. >> but if they actually took their, took the advice, let's hope the monetary folks, the central bank, fed would step back and allow better policies. melissa: go ahead, stuart. >> as a group policy the printing of money appears to be well past its sell buy date. melissa: right. >> what the fed is tried is easy way out. steve wants them to chop it off right now. no more money printing that would be extreme and provoke a extreme reaction the they're taking easy way out. slow, slow taper, the easy way out. they're in an core. it's a rot earn corner. because they're looking at what, a slowing economy. melissa: right. >> and unemployment rate down to 6.2%? how do you

and even though ron paul is no longer in congress his story is far from over now he's working on a new media network called the on all channel an in-depth look at the new liberty focused venture coming up. and with us student debt still growing activist groups are looking for a change higher ed not debt coalition is demanding more fairness in higher education to fix the problem we'll talk about that and much more later in the show . it's thursday marks six four pm in washington d.c. i mean you're a david and you're watching r t america we begin today with the latest in ukraine over the past couple of weeks the conflict in the country has shifted from kiev to crimea region located on the northern coast of the black sea as geo political tensions continue to rise lawmakers voted today to hold a referendum on whether the region should become a part of russia to get some reaction to that earlier i spoke with our tease maria for an ocean off who's on the ground in crimea. funded and says a crime is parliament voted to join russia haiti the historic decision based fast area the te's to be par

after ukraine's elected president was overthrown more on that just ahead and former congressman ron paul continues to apply for american liberty besides starting his own news network he continues to criticize the was government overreach in foreign affairs and are to interview with paul coming up. and out of washington state prison the inmates are on hunger strike the prisoners are also immigrants are protesting u.s. that rotations and condition. it's at the center and there's word the prison may start for speeding the impact more on that later in the trial. hello it's wednesday march twelfth i'm going to check on you watching our team erica ukrainians haven't chosen their you leaders in kiev but washington has already thrown its support behind the interim government there and the white house has cemented that support by hosting ukraine's interim prime minister the u.s. has pledged one billion dollars in loan guarantees to kiev moscow says the u.s. would break its laws its own laws if it if they do it under the foreign assistance act or it's illegal to foreign fund the government of any

why ron paul says eliminate the irs all together, ron in just a minute. first to washington on the data slip that's already got the pry vacy folks ready to rip. michael. >> reporter: the house ways and mean chairman promises his committee will take a thorough look at this incident after the irs has broken the american people's trust. the tax collection agency has been under intense scrutiny since it was revealed it targeted conservative groups seeking tax exempt status. the irs says the information at issue which we presently believes dates back to 2007 or earlier included irs employee-related information and not general taxpayer information or records. they said this was not a problem with our network or systems but rather an isolated instance. in an e-mail, it was said its personal information about 20,000 people and worked for irs offices in pennsylvania, new jersey and delaware. the last time he was on capitol hill, the commissioner tried reassuring lawmakers he's focused on cleaning up this irs mess. bottom line you can expect a lot of lawmakers to h

he is courting romney voters but beyond that, how can he get beyond being ron paul's someone and be an a reagan-type model. >> how does he get beyond being ron paul's son, in a speech he sounded a lot like his dad. >> mr. president, we won't let you -- we will not let you run roughshod over our rights. we will challenge you in the courts. we will battle you at the ballot box. mr. president, we will not let you shred our constitution. >> you hear the message there. that's what rand paul says all the time. what was your take on him and let me ask in this context -- not just rand paul. of all the 2016 potentials who paraded before that conference, not one of them mentioned immigration. that's been a huge issue in the republican party. not one of them touched it. >> that's right. there were a couple panels about minority outreach and like most panels a at cpac they weren't that well attended. marco rubio who finished second to rand paul last year in the straw poll came in fifth or sixth place this year which could be an indicator of his position on immigration. he led the charge on the se

joining us ron paul the former republican congressman and presidential candidate, now host of "the ron. paul. >> good morning. nice to be with you. >> it's great to get a mix of opinions on the federal reserve. this is janet yellen's first day as fed chairman making the decision, giving her news conference, investors seem to be encouraged by it. they rallied on the day of her testimony. they're rallying here into her first meeting. i take it you're probably not as enthusiastic. >> well, long term is, you know, an illusion. i don't believe that a federal reserve system where any one individual knows how to plan the economy by manipulating interest rates. interest rates are so important that if you give this power to one small group or one individual, there will be distortion. so sometimes you have housing bubbles and sometimes you have housing busts, then you have housing bubbles and bond bubbles. that's all reresult of the manipulation of interest rates, which is my objection to it. >> one of the debates out there is whether the federal reserve itself should be paying more attention to

classic ron paul. this becomes the complexity. i do not think that we should necessarily say you are wedded to your dad or your grand father, john quincy adams was a better president than john adams. >> as everybody was. well pointed out. but we will talk about it on cable news all the time. but let us step back and understand why we see this phenomenon exploding and getting bigger and bigger. it is because we have in this country, a money and media election complex, that is particularly vulnerable to the famous kid orel tiff. >> this is a modern phenomenon, because you page back, it -- >> i don't disagree with that, i think we have seen this for some time, i think the mod earning tools make it very different. the ben quayle example is perfect. because there is an element of branding, the brand that he came in with was not so stellar, let's be honest, so he had actually something to overcome to then prove himself. his father couldn't spell. it wasn't like he came in with like, oh, yeah, his dad was this awesome, everybody thought

nobody divides that gathering like ron paul. >> it's very interesting.re was a panel on the failure of multiculturalism and the pursuit of diversity, fear mongering around the browning of america, this year health care after obamacare, practical guide for living when no one has insurance, runs out of doctors, fear mongering around obamacare, they seem to keep moving forward so gracefully. let's take a look, though, at what crystal has been doing in the last few minutes. wait. she's getting ready for the up against the clock tournament of champions? oh, my goodness. this thing starts on saturday, steve kornacki, crystal is ready. i didn't win like you did. but one small piece of advice, if you push the buzzer a lot, you can score points if you don't push the buzzer, you can't score any points. >> steve, you have any advice for me over here? >> no, also, if you don't push the buzzer, if you push the buzzer, you'll lose points if you're wrong. >> now you're deciding the rules. >> doesn't she look like martina n navratilova with the headband? >> get ready. w

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and former congressman ron paul continue.to fight for american liberty besides starting his own news network he continues to criticize the u.s. government overreach in foreign affairs and our t.v. interview with the wrong with ron paul coming out. and as american police departments become more militarized one congressman is introducing a new bill to curb the use of military type weapons by the police more on that later in the show.

if there are ron paul fans watching, i am fine.m all right if l is an unholy unholy -- it is an unholly. >> i like ron paul for the record. >> it is not about him. it is about his fans. and they are all freezing themselves right now in their basement. >> joanne, you said captain america the winter soldier comes out and steve rogers is alive today because he underwent success -- suspended animation in the 1940s you say it may be a pro motion motional discount -- proposal stunt. >> this can't actually happen. it is going to happen. they are testing it out. >> for the long periods of time, i think this could be great for science and families who have loved ones who have suffered trauma. it is a symptom. it is like a cardiac arrest which is the symptom of a larger problem. they are treating the symptom by putting the saline into the body while they treat the bigger issue. and then they are putting the blood back in. in theory it is not great. i don't think ethically it is wrong in that instance. there is issues when it is for long peri

and rand paul doesn't have -- has the same policy prescriptions as his father ron paul. but here is the difference. rand paul is actually a plausible 2016 republican presidential nominee. and to have him go to battle with ted cruz, we will see whether the people who are proud of the iraq war win over the people who aren't proud of the iraq war. >> well said. let me go to joy on that one. joy, we're glad to have you. i didn't know i would get you tonight. but have i now you, and i'm thrilled. joy reid, congratulations on your show's success by the way in the afternoon. >> thank you. >> what do you think of this? to me, it's a pivotal point. i'm older than you guys. i have to tell you, democrats were very morally chastened by what happened in vietnam, most of them. >> absolutely. >> that explains a lot of the foreign policy of the party today. they don't believe adventurous wars anymore. they don't think it's good or fun certainly to go launch a war in a third world country. what's your thinking? >> and i think the difference between ted cruz and rand paul is that ted cruz

that is what ron paul was getting into. congressman, that was your point, right? you don't know who is on first. >> absolutely. if you send money off to some group and take it rather readi readily, goes into the special interest, or if you send it overseeoverseas it goes to specl interest as well. so right now they're figuring out how they're going to handle this bankruptcy of ukraine and they need a lot of money, but a lot of people owe owe the money including many banks. somebody's going to have some benefit that won't be the people of the united states and it won't be the people of ukraine. they will continue to suffer. the principle is wrong and that is my big beef about this whole process. neil: it was a same thing that got us tied up in egypt, we didn't know who to give my two and the group was going to do some good turned out to be back and forth. your prescription for all of these type crises is what? >> to stop getting involved in all of them because they never benefit us. the unde undersecretary of stats admitted we already have put in $5 billion undermi

fed critic and host of the ron paul channel, dr. ron paul is with us as well.ically is here. the one an only stuart varney stuck around to mix it up because, especially when it is fed day, it is always about money. cheryl: let's bring in panel right now. we're awaiting fed decision melissa: what is the best thing she could do. >> announcing taper is over. wouldn't distort the credit markets and would be a healthy thing once people digested it. melissa: stuart, what do you think of that? >> i'm more middle of the road kind of guy. >> you're middle of road? >> see if i am. i expect janet yellen to announce she is staying on the program. she will reduce the printing of money by $10 billion next month and stay with the taper. i think that is what she will say and i think market will go up when she says it. melissa: who else do we have with us right now? gerald, can you hear us, gerald o'driscoll? i don't think he is with us yet. last time we've seen this, in '70s we saw a lot of inflation. in 2,000 we saw this and we saw a housing bubble. i wonder if we're building

>> this is sort of a ron paul-rand paul crap. >> thank you. have a nice weekend. coming up, things go better when you attack koch. at least that's harry reid's thoughts on the assault on the koch brothers who are spending 10s of millions of dollars on tv ads against the democrats. the koch brothers, they get two for the price of one. plus, not enough whites for republicans to win the white house. how is that for math? and not enough minority voters in enough places for the democrats to win back the congress. why this could be the new normal. >>> also, as every day goes by, vladimir putin looms as a major challenge to president obama. and last night david letterman and jon stewart had lots of fun at his expense. finally, let me finish tonight with jimmy carter's success. yes, the subject of the new play camp david opening here at arena stage in washington on march 21st. and this is "hardball" the place for politics. work to clean and tighten pores so they can look half their size. pores...shrink 'em down to size! [ female announcer ] pore refining cleanser. neutrog

that is the stuff ron paul was getting into last time he was here. he is back with us now. congressman, that was your point, right? be careful because you don't know who is on first. >> absolutely. you don't have to be a genius to be concerned or predict these things that is the general rule. if you send money off to some group and you take it rather readily from the american taxpayer, it goes into special a interests, whether special interests at home or if you send it overseas it goes to special interests as well. so right now, they're figuring out how they are going to handle this bankruptcy of ukraine and they need a lot of money but there's a lot of people that are owed money including many, many banks. so somebody is going to have some benefit but believe me it won't be the people of the united states and it won't be the common people of ukraine. they will the continue to suffe. so the principle is wrong and that's my big beef about this : ole process. neil: as you pointed out its same thing to the us tied up in egypt. we didn't know who to give money to and the group

ronald reagan and ron paul. key is being named ronald. >> my next guest tasked with helping the gop win over young vote voters, alex smith chairperson of the college republican national committee. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. thank you for having me on. >> i know it's loud there. hopefully you'll be able to hear me. i don't have to tell you that the republican party has last the last two election in part for failing to reach out to young voters. what does today's republican party need to do and are they willing to do? >> we as republicans absolutely have to reach out to younger voters. they made up 19% of the electorate in 2012, they decided the election for president obama. what we found in 2012, is we actually have to go where young voters are and give them something to share. going on the campus, going online, which is something or traditional messaging tactics haven't done for young people. let's talk a bit about policy and social issues are very important to many young voters. i'm talked

>> this is sort of a ron paul/rand paul crowd. >> so cruz could win this thing? >> coming up, things go better when you attack. at least that's harry reid's assault on the billionaire koch brothers who are spending tens of millions of ads against democrats. democrats got a villain in the koch brothers, two for the price of one. plus not enough whites for republicans to win the white house. how's that for math? and not enough minority voters in enough places for democrats to win back the congress. why this could be the new normal. also as every day goes by, vladimir putin looms as a major challenge to president obama. and last night, david letterman, and jon stewart had lots of fun at his expense. finally, let me finish tonight with jimmy carter's success. yes the subject of the new play, camp david opening here at arena state in washington on march 21st. ♪ ♪ make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrées crafted with care and designed to delight. fancy feast. love served daily. i takbecause you can't beatrning for my frzero heartburn.n. woo ho

we have all-star line up, steve forbes, ron paul, michael cox and stuart varney just to name a few all here to take us through the fed hour. we want to see what is happening with the market right now. strong day for markets. we're seeing lots of green on the screen. take a look at that. mark newton down at the new york stock exchange with more on this one. mark, pretty strong rally out there. what do you think? >> definitely seeing some follow-through. that is encouraging. health care, technology, even energy participating which is real rarity these days. melissa: is it temporary given we have this meeting tomorrow? >> i don't think so. people put way too much stock in terms of fed meeting the way the stocks go in the short run. nobody expects anything different with the tapering. more forward guidance. melissa: if she changes her language on forward guidance will that have an impact on the market? >> people agree nan newsily you need a bunch of factors to look at not just one thing. to go from quantitative to qualitative makes a lot sense. if they learn anything about the administrati

. >> do you worry that ron paul's libertarianism maybe too much for the republican party? >> i hope that libertarians as they pick and choose between the parties decide, as reagan did, i would rather have people around me that i support 80% of the time rather than 20% of the time. libertarians are going to be substantially more comfortable with republican theory and concepts than they are the democrats. >> one issue is immigration. with the energy boom in mexico, it may be that the immigration issue subsides. you were attacked harshly by governor romney last time you ran for president. has that changed your view? >> it has not. i think governor romney made some statements that were harmful to him, to the republican party, to americans who have come here, gone through the process, they have become american citizens, but they still relate to the individuals who have come here who may not be legally -- >> and he paid a price for that. do you think republicans are getting back more? >> i think republicans are wisely going to address the issue of immigration. the first thing th

. -- >> more from senator ron paul -- senator rand paul at 9:35 eastern. galston talking about u.s. intervention around the world. and then the fiscal reporter from the new york times will talk about which state exchanges are doing well and not so well and the results of the final weeks of this year's sign up. and the process and the cost of shutting down military basis in light of the new round of closings recommended by the defense secretary. we will also look for your calls, tweets, and facebook comments, live at 7 a.m. eastern on c-span. markup of the 1988 satellite home viewer act, set to expire in 2014. it aims to make broadband available to underserved areas around the country and 1.5 million households will lose access to broadband content without congressional reauthorization. you can watch the markup on c-span three. more on the u.s. economy, the republican party, and russia with former senate committee atlanticd gray at the -- judd gregg at the atlantic council. the honorable judd gregg, former governor of new hampshire as well as former chairman of the u.s. senate and bu

as it was when his father, ron paul, the former texas congressman who ran as a libertarian party nomineey ardent support of youth voters, at least in the rallies and in the campaign process. they didn't exactly show up for ron paul at the presidential polls, but very much active on the campaign and encouraging the ideas. it's caught on a great deal, in part because the tea party has been very successful at arguing a return to a more constitutional originalism than what democrats argue is a living document that can be subject to reinterpretation. so here we go. here are the numbers. let's see if we can move that in. >> texas senator ted cruz came in second with 11. ben carson came in third at 9. governor christie came in at 8. governor walker came in at 7. senator santorum at 7. and florida senator marco rubio at 6. there were 25 people on the list. not everybody scored more than a percent. so a lot of them are in the other and we had a whole slew of right ins. but none of those write-ins, and they ranged from jeb bush to calvin coolidge is making a comeback. but not all of them scored be

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that is a distancing of the policies of his father, ron paul, who ran for president. >> the father wasst. >> absolutely. >> though he preferred the term noninterventionist, like there's a difference. europe gets 30% of its natural gas from russia. because of that, eu nations seem reluctant to impose sanctions. when you look at the stats, and we checked this yesterday, they make huge profits selling everything from oil machinery, automobiles and everyday products that are on russian tables. >> yeah. >> so if europe won't impose sanctions on their big trading partner, russia, doesn't that really render any american sanctions rather pointless? >> they're not significant. and you saw when this crisis started, the obama administration, whether it's president obama or secretary of state kerry kept saying the international community was united. the problem is they weren't united, uk and germany not pressing for these sanctions. they were trying to convince the al allies. the interests are significant, which helped the pro-drilling environment, something that senator rand paul was pushing on.

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and ron paul, we learned to dismiss the ron paul victories because his supporters were outside the republicanhey could come to events like this, pack them and make noise. rand paul is a safier political figure than his fae. he's been a lot more strategic in how he's approached this. i wonder how representative you think -- how representative you think cpac is of the conservative movement at-large and does rand paul's showing in the straw poll mean more than ron paul's victories the last couple of years? >> that's the big question. if you look historically mitt romney won in '07 to '09 and then '10 to '11. he so romney did end up getting the nomination, so you could say that is sort of a bellwether. the paul name, i think the jury is still out whether rand paul's brand of let's fight the drones, whether this is relevant to the base. i think it's still a big question mark. >> and, josh, just watching this from afar, did you hear anything different, anything like, wow, this conservative movement has changed or is in the process of changing in some meaningful way? >> not really but cpac isn't the

i'm downing street and parking it's politically us presidential candidate ron paul who says one since he doesn't practice one ep shoes trust the lecture anybody about violating sovereignty what about the sovereignty of iraq in afghanistan and yemen and north africa and were constantly being involved pakistan has to drive on missiles. we have eight hundred bases around the world where hundred and thirty countries where always involved it seems in somebody else's collection. and that we preach democracy we finally got democracy have theoretically you know. in asia that there is a lecture and of course we didn't like the person elected so we say this go back to the military so i though i'd outline a hypocrisy as for us to preach in that one thing in the same time behind the scenes i were doing things to stir up trouble for many many different reasons. their main pieces of the ukrainian puzzle but some believe out of sight. i did ofcom has five questions that the western media's she's not on that log on and take the lead. like you right now while the apparent that will tighten gun control