he was replaced by strategists who lacked some of those better intentions. >> let's do a ron paul -- rand paul one surround. this is guy have a chance if he decides to run for president? he might be an election cycle or two premature. is abelieve that there growing sense of government's demonstrated incompetence on a wide number of avenues. the social security disability fund will run out of iou's to reading, and the congress will have to decide what to do about that, and if nothing happens, social security disability benefits will be reduced. come face-to-face, with the in 2016, inadequate financing of the modern welfare state. the medicare hospital insurance trust fund will face the same 2020's, sothe early the country will have to face this moment, which will open the door for someone who has a more radical view of the extent to which we need to cut back the size and the scope of government , and the march of time, i think, would stand well for acceptance of his noninterventionist foreign policy, and for his more socially progressive views within a republican primary. is he is prem

after his dad, ron paul, cleared the way for his son. libertarians on the right and on the left see eye to eye on protecting privacy and legalizing marijuana. is this a moment that barry goldwater help to create? >> i do not think there is any question about that. the historically important barry goldwater who wrote "conscious of a conservative" and ran for established 1964 the libertarian viewpoint on economic matters and limited government, and a proper sense of federalism. the later barry goldwater and his reaction against the religious right helped to lead the way to libertarianism on social issues, which has formed, sort of, the mix that does appeal to younger audiences, and also to what has been, historically, one of the swing votes in american politics -- people who are economically conservative, but socially progressive. >> david, i mentioned rand paul at the outset. i would like to hear your thoughts on that. who do you think that the capital today is the real air of of barry goldwater? >> i do think rand paul is. he brings his

[laughter] that is not what the young people are subscribing to and ron paul did this as a congressman and his son is doing it. this helped to propel goldwater, who was a minority view in the republican party, so the light or did you captured the party and became the majority. that is the plan that has to be looked at. it might be too soon and 2016, but change the time and he could make a difference. >> you just made me remember that hillary was a goldwater girl when she was in her 20's. we will keep talking with your questions. >> we now have time to take questions from all of you. there are two of us with microphones. we are recording this. it will be on the website first thing tomorrow morning. we are asking that you say your first and last name. c-span is also here. tonya has the first question right here. >> well, it is not exactly a question. it is a statement in a way. my father, he ran against barry goldwater many years ago, and one of the most striking things about goldwater was how amazing he could be so accepting of someone with opposite political views. my father was way to

>> i like ron paul. he's an honest guy and speaks his mind.in his isolation, though. i think to suggest that part of the world we can just like let go and not have influenced their when we know that the 911 attacks were planned from that part of the world, how can you forget about terrorism in a part of the world? if you leave it alone the jihadists will establish a base. they had it in afghanistan and they will do it in iraq. by the way, it's not just iraq, it's a rack in syria. melissa: merry, what did you think of the take on inflation? >> one note on a iraq verse, he has his facts wrong with respect through the policy is not been the same of the last 11 years. president bush gave them a country that was stable and solid and this president abandon it three in terms of inflation, you cannot have confidence in the feds-- anyidet abandon it three in terms of inflation, you cannot have confidence in the feds-- any fed will catch inflation because they never do, so regardless of what janet yellen says she will act if we see prices rising. there

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quickly that one of the great surprise of republican politics of the last 10 years is that it was ron paul who may libertarianism more popular. -- made libertarianism more popular. that was not seen by the circles i travel in in washington, the libertarian circles, he was not seen as the best vessel to bring that forward. the kochs had spent 30 years funding institutes. the cato institute were worried that libertarian sounded crazy. the fact that ron paul ran for president and built a following against the iraq war and drafted countless young libertarians, that really surprised people. he is a very flawed politicians in the ways we were talking around before. given the ways ron paul built the ranks, as long as there is not an external threat like timing is that america's feeling, yes, libertarianism. >> i have a question about goldwater, the civil rights act, and the recent conflict in arizona. goldwater famously voted against the 1964 act because he did not like the federal government imposing requirements on private does this, but he had supported civil rights act deviously, including in

is one of the first reporters to embed with ron paul's president to campaign -- shout out for ron paul [laughter] a few more of those tonight. and reported from the first tea party rally in 2009. david weigel. [applause] >> and to my far right historian michael rubinoff has been an issue faculty member for 17 years. he first interviewed barry goldwater as a little boy back in january 1969 when goldwater was resuming his senate career in washington. they met several more times over the years including for one of the final interviews the senator granted before his retirement in 1986. michael rubinoff. [applause] >> so before i ask thes ask of e custom questions i've a few questions for you folks. how many people in the audience voted for barry goldwater at least once? [laughter] >> did anybody vote for him in 1964? two in the back. any gold -- goldwater from the members in the audience tonight? i heard barry junior is out of town. he was yesterday. good, so we can say whatever we want. [laughter] it seems were having a libertarian moment here in the united states. senator rand paul is be

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ron paul did this as a congressman and his son is doing it. this is what helped to propel goldwater, who was a minority view in the republican party, so the minority view captured the party and became the majority. that is the plan that has to be looked at. it might be too soon and 2016, but change the time and he could make a difference. >> you just made me remember that hillary was a goldwater girl when she was in her 20's. we will keep talking with your questions. >> we now have time to take questions from all of you. there are two of us with microphones. we are recording this. it will be on the website first thing tomorrow morning. we are asking that you say your first and last name. c-span is also here. tonya has the first question right here. >> well, it is not exactly a question. it is a statement in a way. my father, he ran against barry goldwater many years ago, and one of the most striking things about goldwater was how amazing he could be so accepting of someone with opposite political views. my father was way to the left, he was wa

it's associated with people like ron paul. this is not polemic. i'm not trying to write a really good narrative to explain how we got to where we are but i think there were some force in the argument that we need something more structured than just the ability of governments to print money. >> host: the quotes from ron paul and his co-author in 1981 and the ten-year experiment has failed and that is an argument that is very resident here with ron paul in 2008 in 2012 and his son rand paul who's going to probably run for president in 2016. do you think you should? >> guest: there's a different action and how we should talk about that initially. the chinese essentially essentially to the site in o'reilly. they could reach raise a difficult center tomorrow. they could say it won't is going to equal x amount of gold than they put in enough reserves to back that. the only problem with them as they have an export model so if they did that no one would be a strong currency which would be a complete reverse of their export where they want to keep the valu

isolationism and -- you wrote at one point somewhere between ron paul's isolationism and neointerventionism is what the u.s. should be modeling in the world. then you went further and wrote: the central issue for israel and the u.s. is that iran can be stopped by a preemptive attack. we must wait until it launches or threatens a launch. a nuclear missile at israel or explode or threatens to explode suitcase bombs in u.s. cities. aside from the fear mongering on that -- because they're nowhere near mining uranium, they've done nothing to us. what you're suggesting is we should go to war to prevent a war. i can't think of anything more liberal. and unless you want to sign up your blood, you should -- we should be protecting american blood and treasure. keep them here stateside. we should be promoting peace and prosperity. >> and the question is? >> there's no question, i'm just making a comment. >> oh -- so now we're controlling? >> if you want to do a debate, call my agent. i don't think what i said in that column is contradictory at all. you'll remember that president bush, the idea of pree

i'm reminded what ron paul was telling me, this is why he's so against getting involved.fast. who are our friends? who are on our side, who should we support? i don't know who's who? >> look, to simplify the issue, neil, you have those who are now gaining the land. gaining the city. this is the so-called isis, and arabic it's daj, this is al qaeda mutation, moving into efficient, stronger, now we're going to get money into the banks and have impact on the oil. they're going to establish, they are establishing a taliban-like emirates in the heart of syria as well. these are the bad guys. neil: that would be direct challenge to saudi arabia as far as the economic rulers of that region, right? >> a direct threat, i would say. if you look at map, you see across the border from saudi arabia, not just syria, not just jordan. saudi arabia, kuwait and the entire peninsula. this organization is a threat to the world economy. neil: spring uprising, and i remember asking you the same dumb question then, who do we trust? who do we count on as being worth giving money, to every time w

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it will be interesting to hear ron paul and the senator from kentucky rand paul say about this. what say you? >> i say it's awful. we need to protect our people and otherwise stay out of it. >> no bombing then? >> in appropriate situations, bombing. when you and charles talk about heavy air power and talk about going into syria, however, that also means you are killing not just the horrible terrorists. you are killing. >> no, i wouldn't bomb cities but certainly caravans and certainly staging areas where we know that the isis army is gathered. this is a big army. this isn't just guys running around in some backwater. this is army that moves with vehicles that has heavy arms and weapons charles say you can't hit them with drones but satellites can see. you would if had you a target on the isis army, you would bomb them, right? >> in certain situations and rand paul has said he doesn't object to air power. >> i just need you it because a lot of libertarians are let them do what we want and kill each other. a whole stack of mail on that. kill each other stay out we don't want to do

i like ron paul, but i'm not a ron paul republican. i'm a reagan republican who believes it's not good to get to the left. foreign policy. immigration is a problem is not going to get fixed by yelling about it. tosident bush led the effort fix immigration and i wish we had been successful. having 11 million illegal immigrants coming to get jobs -- you need to control the gets the job and secure the border. i've got that. we've increased border patrol agent by 20000 and technology on the border but they keep coming here to work. overrun bybeing illegal canadians. you've got to sit down with the other party on occasion. ronald reagan and tip o'neill saved social security from going bankrupt. i'm a good conservative, but i'm also problem solver. this country needs to solve columns. wrong forit so like-minded democrats and republicans to occasionally try to find common ground on the big issues such as the federal debt, immigration, social security reform will stop how does anything it done on these big issues of each side just exhume their

i like ron paul but i'm not a ron paul republican. i'm a reagan republican who believes that it is not good to get to the left of obama on foreign policy. immigration is a problem that's not going to get fixed by yelling about it. president bush led the effort to fix immigration and wish we had been successful. why do we have 11 million illegal immigrants? they come here to get a job. we increase border patrol agents by 20,000, we put technology on the border, but they keep coming here to work. we're not being overrun by illegal canadians. you've got to sit down with the other party on occasion. like ronald reagan and tip o'neal saved social security. i'm a good conservative but i'm also a prbsoler. and this country needs to solve problems. >> why is it so wrong for like-minded democrats and republicans to occasionally try to find common ground on the big issues such as the federal debt, immigration, social security reform? how does anything get done in washington on these big issues if each side digs in their heels? >> certainly we n

i just called it disgusting and i don't think ron paul personally is disgusting.what he was doing was. i do have concerns about the impact and influence of libertarianism on the conservative movement because i think -- i don't think it's consistent with conservative thought. i think the idea that libertarians and i'm not talking about libertarian conservatives because there are conservatives that have a libertarian extent to and are stronger on some of these issues particularly the issue of constitutional protections and limitations. so i respect that. i think that's a very healthy debate within the republican party as to the role of government and how much government does to the issues of privacy. i think those are very important issues and so libertarian conservatives not as big of a concern that libertarians and some of the folks who pretend to be libertarian conservatives are not necessarily so. they are more libertarians trying to change what conservatism is. there i have a lot of problems everything from their isolationist view of how we approach national se

senator tim kaine has joined ron paul and said look, this is a new war. the president has not authorized to take us into a new war in iraq or in syria and to do that, you need a vote of the congress and not only aught to have a vote, they aught to debate what we are debating now and is it wise to go back in there militarily? >> the people that will complain about that in congress are the same people that said the administration should have been supporting the army all along and now he is finally making moves to do it. >> and the bush 2002 resolution is legally still applied. >> mort. i'll repeat what i said before on this show. this is a much more important struggle and confrontation than we are talking about. it is really critical that we find a way to deal with iraq, because the borders on saudi arabia and kuwait, our whole position in the middle east is at stake here. it is critical that we find -- i wouldn't want to stop and not do anything when this is the -- i haven't gotten that far yet. but one of the things we have to do is get involved there and

the pain as several international refineries in northern iraq have a back he waited personnel and ron paul an outspoken critic of intervention abroad has said quote because of the government's foolish policy of foreign interventionism the us is faced with two equally stupid choices either poor in resources to prop up an iraqi government that is a close ally with iran or for or throw our support in with al-qaeda in iraq as we did as we have done in syria i say we must follow a third choice ally with the american people and spend one more dollar or one more life attempting to remake the middle east. now streets around the world in protest of the iraq war but as always we'll be keeping a close eye on how this story shakes out and keeping you updated on the markets reactions. time now for a quick break but stick around because when we return richard heinberg is on the show the senior fellow at the post carbon institute sat down with malt to discuss the practicality of replacing carbon energy with alternative forms of energy plus artes very own abby martin is on the show today the fabulous miss

i remember a couple of years ago you on fox, called ron paul disgusting.n the book you take a shot at libertarians. what objection to have a? >> guest: i didn't call and disgusting. it was his attacks on me saying things that were ridiculous, outright lies about me and my record but i just all that disgusting, i don't think ron paul personally is disgusting but what he was doing was. no, i do not concerned about the impact and influence of libertarianism of the conservative movement because i think it's -- i don't think it's consistent with conservative thought. i think the idea that libertarian -- on a tight about libertarian conservatives because there are conservatives who have a libertarian bent to it to our little strong on some of these issues, particularly the issue of constitutional protections and limitations. and so i respect that. very healthy debate within the republican party and to the role of government, how much government does to the issues of privacy. i think those are very important issues, and so libertarian conservatives not as big a c

a couple years ago you were on fox and called ron paul, quote, disgusting. and in the book you take shots at libertarians. what objection does you have -- i call held digusting because of the way he attacked me. he was saying things that were ridiculous, outright lies about me and my record. i called it disgusting. i don't think ron paul personally is disgusting but what he was doing was. and -- no, i do have concerns about the impact and influence of libertarianism on the conservative movement because i think it's -- i don't think it's consistent with conservative thought, i think the idea that libertarians -- i'm talking about -- not talking about libertarian conservatives who are stronger on these issues, particularly on the issue of constitutional protections and limitations, and so i respect that. i think that's a very healthy debate within the republican party to the role of government, how much government does. to the issues of privacy. i think those are very important issues and so libertarian conservatives not as big concern, but libertarian some of

presidential campaign. >> yes. >> shoutout to ron paul. a few of those tonight. [laughter] and reported from the rally in 2009. david weigel. [applause] to my far right, historian michael rubinoff has been an asu faculty member for 17 years and first interviewed barry goldwater as a little boy in 1969. they met several more times including one of the final interviews goldwater granted granted before his retirement in 1986. michael rubinoff. [applause] before i ask these guys, a few questions for you folks -- how many people in the audience voted for barry goldwater at least once? [laughter] ok. did anyone vote for him in 1964? any family members in the audience? i heard barry jr. was out of town. he was here yesterday. we can say whatever we want. [laughter] it seems we are having a libertarian moment. rand paul is being taken seriously as a presidential candidate. libertarians on the right and on the left see eye to eye on protecting privacy and legalizing marijuana. is this a moment that barry goldwater helped to create? >> i do not thin

there was ron paul, but ron paul was completely marginalized. i say within the republican party it seems like not only is it even, maybe the balance of public opinion is on rand paul's side. >> look at public opinion. most of the elite republicans, the john mccain's, the lindsey grahams are in the more hawkish group with dick cheney. we should be more involved with iraq. we should do something. the president isn't doing enough. the notion that paul said last week which was the president should not be blamed for this, maybe -- >> so striking and so unusual. >> usually every problem in america is blamed -- everything is blamed on obama by republicans. the paul group, the isolationists or the noninterventionist group, if you look at paul, it's growing among republicans and democrats as well. that's where things are moving. that's why a vote in congress to get involved in iraq will never pass. the white house knows that as well. if it comes to a vote in congress, that means we've decided basically not to have any kind of air strikes because congress

leading democrats there are a lot considerably hawkish these days and then we have a paleo con like ron paul and he is very non hawkish he's very much against military interventions around the world. well as i was thinking about this subject last night i came up with fourteen areas where there is almost no difference between the right and left when it comes to politics i mean what comes to us foreign policy they seem to share rousseau phobia. hillary clinton is as bad as john mccain. they both support they both supported the illegal and more in moral evasion of iraq. they they ignored the role played by the right wing fascist in the in the coup in ukraine there but they're equally ignoring that position. they. they've they've studiously avoided the murderous assault that's taking place in slovyansk the artillery in the air and the air attacks. they they they both they are both sides except this end of history idea about the. there's an in exile rable march in which markets and democracy are going to penetrate the world and it will be for the. walter i agree with you that a lot of things but

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