at the center on peace and liberty at the independent institute and in los angeles we cross to ron paul cone he is a comedian is a frequent guest on the jimmy doris show and the young turks as well as host of his own streaming show get your news on withdrawn all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate i always go to the person that got up early is for the program so that means it's you ron in los angeles god bless your soul. we you know we hear a lot about the the rise of democratic socialism. that turn to the left in the party though the donors don't seem to want to go there what is democratic socialism because i'd like to remind our viewers i've lived in communist eastern europe and they call that democratic socialism ok and they didn't have a lot of birkenstocks and they didn't have a lot of capital to point out so what is that in a nutshell go ahead. well democratic socialism in the contemporary american sense i mean you know whenever people throw around these terms you need to factor in you know the snapshot in contem