as ron reagan knows, for example, ron reagan against george h.w. bush. >> yeah, but reagan won that. >> yeah. >> and i'm wondering more like 1980 or it's more like '68? which years more like. >> go to the center right or to the hard right. >> '68 no real competition. >> you had romney. >> '64 year where you get goldwater versus rockefeller down to the final. >> i think that the current romney could fall victim to the romney of the past. i'm not sure he has the political chops. here's more on palin today. our story today is really about the rise to the top of the republican party of palin and bachmann. of course, sean hannity and talk show radio people like limbaugh we've been talking about before. these two women have grabbed the stage here today and more than just today. here they are. here's palin welcoming the crowd. let's listen. >> it is really good to be here in the land of 10,000 lakes with pate patriots who love your country. you're so proud to be americans. and you who love your good hunting and fishing and some of you proudly clinging to y

ron reagan is an author and political commentator and earl lewis is a radio talk show host.to start with ron. president clinton i think said something here very important. the atmospherics right now it seems to me are toxic, they're hateful. you hear similar language all the way over to the far right, all the way over to the center right where it's the tea people or the tea bag people or the militia people or just conservative politicians, they're all using the language of delegitimatization, this is an unamerican administration. it all rhymes with, he shouldn't be there. >> well it's easy to ridicule these people and god knows they deserve ridicule, they're fools most of them. talking about gangster government or totalitarianism. this is a totalitarian government now. maybe michelle bachman should take a trip to the soviet union with todd aiken. >> explain your joke, there's no more soviet union. >> but as bill clinton pointed out, there's something very dangerous going on here. you've got 330 million people in the country and some of them are dilutional. and when you use w

the challenge we faced under ron alt reagan and under bush. part of the other deal was that the administration would make whatever is necessary to protect that money. that deal wasn't upheld. we have a problem on the budget side that is now spilling over to special security. it's not a problem created by social security. we node to get a hand l and start looking at this in a serious fashion. host: we have a twitter message, the problem is when you suggest entitlement cuts, democrats suggest that republicans -- republicans whine that democrats are killing old people. guest: really? if there is that rhetoric, it's certainlyly going both ways. i don't think healthcare reform has to mean dying sooner. i'm skeptical about the current cuts they need to see more of these costs. we think about what we are getting with our money. as long as they have a system where people are not baring a cost of the healthcare. no, we don't need to die sooner. host: i just want to ask you, if the numbers hold up going into 2010, how is that going to affect this admini

this is basically the same treaty that ron reagan tried to get passed.ost: congressman, you do mention progress in afghanistan. so where do you support the president? guest: i believe the president means well. i have been one of his most vocal critics, whether it is on social issues, economic issues, and defense issues, whether it is undermining constitutional definitions. i have been very vocal, i wish i did not have to be. i wish i could just say, that is great. unfortunately, i came to congress because i believe in what i believe in. i think this country is taking this country down the road to socialism, economically. i believe he is weakening of our country militarily. and truly creating a posture that makes us more vulnerable to terrorism and national security threats. those are things that have the tragic character of being true. host: "the washington post, and other papers talking about this world summit. and they say that president obama is doing well as a seminar leader. he is making important relationships with many world leaders. what do you t

. >> first off, i mean i had edited ron all reagan's diaries and he had a passage in which he said iad voted for fdr four times. i don't mind the new deal. what i want to do is overturn the great society. and i think this battle isn't just about health care. that's just a piece in the game. it's about whether, it's about old states rights issues. today a governor mcdone all of virginia is talk being neocon fed ranceee. in texas where rick perry talked about secession there is an exhaustion of the american people about the role of the federal government in their lives. and ronald regular hand-- reagan has become the spokesperson from the grave of really a movement. but it doesn't have the humor or the benignness of reagan. and there isn't this sort of collegial attitude any more. so it's really i think a philosophical battle going on now. and to touch on something jon said i was surprised president obama earlier hadn't packaged what he is doing in a way. i mean you did have with fdr the new deal right out of the gate and harry true man's spare deal or the new frontier. it has been bai