. >> a few other people took the snap challenge, including the founder of pan panera bread ron saish. quote, i was forced to find foods that were filling but not the fruits vegetables and meetss that many would say would be in a balanced diet." is it enough for people to stay healthy? >> that's up to interpretation and you're right, the operative word here is supplemental assistance program. by no means is this program intended to be -- pay for entire cost for a struggling person's food. >> chiming in, systemic problems in the economy and jonathan raise the minimum wage. jonathan from new york: >> defined living wage to be $10 an hour with benefits and 11.50 without benefits. so clearly the federal minimum wage, 7.25 is not adequate for a lot of people living in new york city. and the increase in the amount of people on food stamps in new york city to 1.5 million out of the entire population of 9 million now i think reflects the difficulty that people have buying food with their current wages. >> so christine you mentioned the economy right now, that's the problem. i mean look are the