joining us now is ron suskind, pulitzer prize winning journalist.he author of many bestselling books including the aforementioned "one percent doctrine." >> we with have a lot of experience here. there have been instances in '01, '02, '03 things were disclosed. terrorists, people we're after, understand a great deal about this. many of their troops, many of their e-mails have been caught by it. this tripartite nexus. when they say, my god, we're handing a weapon, to the terrorists. the terrorists are very clear, anyone with a passing interest in this realm of terror understands exactly how this process works because it's been published many times in many places. in my book, in other books, in the newspapers. and that's certainly a main issue that they need to be concerned about. how do we get caught? how do we evade them? and so this whole notion that they say time and again, oh, gosh, now we've handed a weapon to the terrorists, now they know how we do it is actually pretty hollow and i think they kind of know that. >> it seems like we're getting t