i have a colleague, a friend and a minister with us today it's the reverend ron swisher or ron swisher pastor. we didn't have to go too far to find the perfect mosaic guest today because you are the perfect guest. not only have you been a clergyman in the bay area for 47 years but you grew up here. ree baarea shaped your ministry as you influenced and served as a parish pastor. >> this is the first time in a long time i been on this side. >> well deserved because after47 years, you are officially retiring from parish ministry. >> that's right. >> but not from ministry. more about that later. >> okay. >> we are so glad you are here. >> thank you. >> and you are local. you were born in oakland. >> that's right. >> grew up in alameda and tell us about your call to ministry, why did you end up serving in the methodist church? >> at the age of 18 i had a conversion experience da mass cuss experience two friends i grew up with, elementary school and high school, they shared with me christ. and they were pentecostal. holiness. and so that person experience, would i like to accept christ in my

the reverend ron swisher. we didn't have to go far to find the perfect mosaic guest today. ron, you are the perfect guest. not only have you been a clergyman in the bay area for years, you grew up here, you're local. the bay area has shaped your ministries as you have influenced and served as a parish pastor. >> this is the first time in a long time i've been on this side. >> well deserved. after 47 yearsu are reti retiring, officially retiring from parish ministry. >> that's right. >> but not from ministry. more about that later. we're glad you're here. >> thank you. >> you are local, born in oakland and grew up in alameda. >> that's right. >> tell us about your call to ministry and why did you end up serving in the methodist church? >> well, at the age of 18, you i had a conversion experience. two colleagues of mine, friends i grew up with in elementary school and high school, they shared with me christ. they were pentecostal, holyness. that personal experience, they said would i like to accept christ and i did. and it changed my life almost overnight. i was 18 and doing a