ron taylor, you raise a very interesting question. one that is rarely discussed. the traditional ideology, religion, of latin america is catholicism. and it was dominated by a church with a very clear hierarchy, but that has faded. it's faded because the abuse of power -- i'm a practicing roman catholic into i'm talking about my own faith but the abuse of power by the leadership of the catholic church in terms of it land ownership and abuse of human beings, has led for a search for alternatives, and the protestant religions are now making steady headway, particularly in central america, because instead of saying, if you sin you are doomed to hell, they say, you will be redeemed. god is a loving god, a forgiving god, and i am bringing health care, hospitals, education, orphanages and -- to help you. so -- [inaudible] -- >> thank you for what your various moms are bringing there. so there's a shift away which i accompanied by what we talked about, the growing middle class. a middle class which is not only economically more independent but psychologically more willin