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ron warmington, i representing us so well. not at all, i that's ourjob. starting to find _ they do? by that point we were starting to find particularly - they do? by that point we were starting to find particularly my | starting to find particularly my colleague ian henderson was starting to find _ colleague ian henderson was starting to find pretty odd material in the papers _ to find pretty odd material in the papers that were being submitted. the agreement had been, nothing would _ the agreement had been, nothing would be — the agreement had been, nothing would be held back. second sight was off the _ would be held back. second sight was off the leash, we can look at whatever— off the leash, we can look at whatever we liked and nothing would be withheld. even privileged or confidential documents were to be given— confidential documents were to be given to _ confidential documents were to be given to us — confidential documents were to be given to us and that is what had happened. 0f given to us and that is what had happened. of course as soon as we sta

ron warmington, because he's high he's a man of high morals, leaked the unredacted information becausest were all post office were redacting all his it all up . his reports to cover it all up. even point in 2012, even at that point in 2012, andrew, as a lawyer , listening andrew, as a lawyer, listening to this with your legal hat on, what's your instinct? >> scandalous. and there's a number of things here. you hear of the cases where people of the tragic cases where people have said, look, if you plead guilty to fraudulent accounting , guilty to fraudulent accounting, you may not go to prison. and they basically people who were innocent were forced to plead guilty. and always say baby guilty. and we always say baby lawyers, the first thing you're told is better than 99 guilty people get off, than one innocent person gets convicted andifs innocent person gets convicted and it's completely scandalous . and it's completely scandalous. the whole thing about the fact that it took an itv drama to bnng that it took an itv drama to bring this to light is extraordinary. what i also say is there