senator ron wyden has sponsored a bill on forest land in oregon.e would say it would allow too much logging, others say not enough. where do you stand? >> probably right in between. everyone will be upset with this bill. i had a conference call last week. we are getting a new bill drafted this week there is a pathway hear to allow responsible increase in harvest of those o & c lands that still provide significant conservation lift. it's not impossible. the issues really are not the board fee as much to me as the certainty that whatever board level is arrived at we can count on and revenues into the county. this isn't about gutted the endangered species or enenviron mental laws. it's asking can we get more value off of that specific 2 million acres of land in southwest organizeon and manage that in a way that improves the gain we can gets from those resources? >> governor, thank you. representative richardson, this again about senator ron wyden's bill to double the timber in ogon. where do you stand as far as it being enough or too much harvest in o

senator ron wyden has sponsored . bill to double the harvest some groups would say it would allow too much logging. others will say donna. -- others will say not enough. >> everyone is going to be upset with this bill. i have had a conference car with the center. we are getting a new bill draft this week. there is a pathway here to allow responsible increased harvest that still provides a significant conversation. -- theues are really certainty that whatever the border right said, you can count on and we can bring some revenue into the county. the isn't about cutting endangered species act or rolling back my mental laws. it's stepping back and asking ourselves, can't we do a better job finding a pathway to get more value off of those specific 2 million acres of land in southwest oregon and manage that in a way that dramatically improves the conversation -- conservation value? >> representative richardson? >> i think the bill is flawed because once again it doesn't give the certainty that the timber industry needs. lls

senator senator ron wyden a sponsored bill to double the timber harvest in forestland in oregon.s would say would allow too much logging and others will say not enough. where do you stand? kitzhaber: probably right in between them. everyone will be upset but this bill. i have been in a conference call at this senator and representative ociio last week. there is a pathway here to allow responsible increase in harvest on those onc lands that still provides a significant conservation lists. it's not impossible. the issues really are not the word fee as much to me is the certainty that whatever the board has arrived that you can count on and we bring some revenue to the counties that they can also count on. this isn't about letting the endangered species act and rolling back environment laws. it's about as scarce as can we do a better job running a pathway to get more value off of that specific 2 million acres of land in southwest oregon is certainly needs it and managed in a way that dramatically improves the conservation value and again we can get from those resources. >> moderator

i know the republicans in the house want to do it and i am sure that ron wyden i know wants to do it and certainly orrin hatch. and the business community is very clear i'm not. so i'm not a pessimist. i am a not to miss. .. hall >> >> is john is right not doing any of the end things the was adjusted to decrease the amount of conversions was no affect then the regulations would not have any benefit but some transaction cost with the analysis they would say don't go ahead i don't know it would not work but that is the issue to be addressed to. but the issuance of the regulations antagonizing the congress that love to work hand in glove and looking at that degree in their work of greenhouse gases such and climate change they begged congress to enact climate change legislation. they said on tax reform is much better if congress does it and if we are to do it. but in any event it has to go ahead to alienate the congress. i would submit know even if you have gone ahead but what it does show so you know, the other marker so this is what is likely to occupy the field that helps to analyze w

senator ron wyden has sponsored a bill to double the timber harvest on onc land.ome groups would say it would allow too much logging. others will say not enough. >> everyone is going to be upset with this bill. i have had a conference car with the center. we are getting a new bill drafted this week. there is a pathway here to allow responsible increase harvest onc lands that still provides a significant convservation. the issues are really -- the certainty that whatever the border right said, you can count on and we can bring some revenue into the counties. this isn't about gutting the endangered species act or rolling back environmental laws. it's stepping back and asking ourselves, can't we do a better job finding a pathway to get more value off of those specific 2 million acres of land in southwest oregon and manage that in a way that dramatically improves the conservation value. >> representative richardson? this about the bill to double lands.rvest on onc >> i think the bill is flawed because once again it doesn't give the certainty that the timber industry n

i know the republicans in the house want to do it and i'm sure ron wyden i know wants to do it, and certainly orrin hatch does. and the business community does. i want to be very clear on that. so i do think -- i'm not a pessimist. i'm an optimist. i think regulations would make tax reform more difficult, not less difficult because, a, to the extent they were effective, and i'm not sure they would be. transaction would morph into another form, they would antagonize the congress. the political comity would be destroyed. speaker boehner has written an op ed saying, please, mr. president, don't rewrite the tax code yourself around inversions. so i think it would be a bad idea in terms of moving us to where we need to be as a country. i also think it would be bad -- this is in the long run maybe the most important factor -- create a dangerous precedent and damage the institutional integrity of the office of tax policy at the treasury. there was a letter written to tax notes by dennis ross a former tax official, expressing dismay over the use -- potential regulatory use of 385 to stop inversion. a