but what ron wyden is saying, essentially, is that with each one of these indictments it's showing some sort of a pattern because it's all generally about lying under oath. the question is, where they lying under oath? is there something they are specifically covering up? but to take it one step further, it's because they're covering up collusion -- we don't know that. >> harris: katie, why they are lying and also who is lying? also, could the be the investigation of the weights being handled? all of these are process crimes, not that they are not serious. >> katie: they are process crimes. the interesting thing to be is the way people have been indicted for lying to congress. what that means is that congressional investigators, lawmakers, referred them to the special counsel -- or at least help them, and said "this is the testimony we have. it's not consistent maybe with robert mueller was stating." you will make this mistake all the time, that going and testifying in front of congress would have consequences if you don't tell the truth. we have seen, in these cases, that they are goin

as for senator ron wyden, this is actually a national security issue. secret service agents, fbi agents leaves them and all of us vulnerable. >> members of the u.s. coast guard will not see a paycheck today. they are part of the department of homeland security effected by the partial government shutdown. a website posted some advice for those feeling the pinch such as have a garage sale, baby sit, or tutor students. janet spoke with three coast guard wives about what lies ahead. >> what kind of changes are you making to account for the fact that you may not be getting a paycheck? >> our budget is extremely tight. we have bought only the necessities when we went grocery shopping and trying to, you know, look at the sales and see what's on sale. >> are you cooking? or are you changing how you utilize -- >> we have been having struggle meals. >> what's a struggle meal? >> you take whatever's in the fringe or the pantry and throw it in the casserole and that's a meal. >> no target run? >> no target run. can't even shop in the little dollar section that ever

. >> reporter: senator ron wyden of oregon is proposing igislation to better protect personal information>> what we were told in 2018 was that they would stop selling location data, and now we're seeing evidence that it is still happening. pd it's a pattern. you know, they do it, they get caught, they apologize, and it's kind of wash, rinse, and repeat. >> reporter: t-mobile and at&t have both pledged to stop selling location data to third parties. sprint tells cbs news its investigation determined some companies it sold to were not sufficiently protecting customer inta. those deals have been terminated. jeff? >> glor: kris van cleave, thank you. coming up here, where a fierce winter storm is headed. k you. up next, a fierce storm and where it's headed. military-grade aluminum alloy body gives you best-in-class torque, best-in-class payload... and you got it, baby... best-in-class towing. still leading the pack. this is the big dog! this is the ford f-150. it doesn't just raise the bar, pal. it is the bar. coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood p

emily: marco rubio has injured his privacy legislation, ron wyden is expected to introduce privacy legislationof these big tech companies spend a lot of money on lobbyists on capitol hill, whose messages are lawmakers hearing? is facebook and google speaking to them? or are these message from apple having an impact? >> google and facebook are speaking to them and going to their offices and making their --ch, but the drumbeat from everything started with cambridge analytical has really pushed legislators to want to act. it is important to see that bill you passed in california in the middle of last year has made industry want to come to congress and get a federal standard that can preempt some of the state laws. they are hearing facebook and google because they want to move something forward that can create a federal standard, but would make it so that california when it comes into effect at the beginning of next year, may not have the teeth they spoke at google are most worried about. emily: tim cook mentioned it is not too late to do this. but finding something republicans and democrats agree

as for senator ron wyden, he points out that this is not just a consumer issue, it's a national securityrvice agents, fbi agents, if their precise movements and locations are known, that leaves them and all of us vulnerable. >> tony, much to be discussed here. thank you. again, we all have smartphones for accuracy. i think the takeaway is transparency. i think a lot of people would be okay with the companies knowing their location. at least tell them about it. >> yeah. let us know that you know where we are. >> and don't bury it in a 10,000-word terms of service -- >> before you hit "accept," yes. >>> next, the other headlines including a california man's alleged plot to switch his roommate's winning lottery ticket and claim a $10 >>> good thursday morning. we are catching a break from the rain with high pressure briefly building in, and more rain on the way tomorrow. this morning we have areas of dense fog to start the day with partly sunny skies. upper 50s and 60 for the high in oakland, fremont and san jose. rain returns friday afternoon, a break on saturday, a series of storms return

that was ron wyden with a timely question to dan cotes during that hearing yesterday. of meetings in four countries have beshrouded in secrecy including argentina. at the time the white house acknowledged it as brief and informal. the financial times reports they huddled virtually alone. noting trump was akfrmanied by melania trump but no staff while mr. putin was flanked by his translator. according to a russian government official's account, they spoke about a number of foreign policy issues. it's been not yet independently confirmed by nbc news. it come cans on the heels of a bomb shell report. those efforts include on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter. i'm joined by a democrat who served on the house intelligence committee and kelly maxim, a senior pentagon official in both obama and bush administrations. what is it about these meetings? they're almost like quiet taets. he's meeting with a person as if there was no world around them except their relationship. >> that's right, chris. it's like a "soprano's" episode where he'

senator ron wyden asked coats about this.et's listen to the exchange. >> according to press reports donald trump met privately with vladimir putin and no one in the u.s. government has the full story about what was discussed. director haspel and director coats, would this put you in a disadvantaged position in terms of understanding russia's efforts to advance its agenda against the united states? question for you two, then i am out of time. thank you for letting me have them respond, mr. chairman. >> well senator, clearly this is a sensitive issue and it is an issue we ought to talk about this afternoon. i look forward to discussing that in a closed session. >> what did he say? you have to be kidding me, only one right answer, no, clearly nothing the president did put us at a disadvantage in terms of understanding russia's efforts to advance its agenda against the united states. i understand dan coats is trying to be sensitive about stuff but it is actually a clear yes or no answer. the fact he couldn't say no, the president

this happens in any country, let alone here and a letter posted publicly today, they told senator ron wyden have no idea. we're not aware of any data to substantiate this estimate from the inspector general. suggests maybe it's 300 or so. maybe more, maybe less, who knows. wasn't tracked before 2018. we don't know. here we are in 2019 with a new inspector general report that says it isn't just the 2700 kids from last year, it's maybe thousands of others. nobody is really looking into it. the reason we know as much as we do about 2018 is because of the aclu, the civil liberties union took administration to court and the courts intervened to stop that official policy. the aclu's case is on pause because they are affected by the shutdown by attorneys with the aclu say they are not willing to wait for answers about how many kids were taken overall and where all of those kids might be. they tell us never mind the shutdown, they are ready to ask a court to intervene again now as we learn now about thousands more kids who have been taken away from their parents by this administration. the national

senate finance committee ranking member ron wyden introducing a bill today requiring the president to make his returns public, which he obviously won't do without a fight. but -- and here's something else that may have this president spooked. the thing he has counted on to be the force field around his presidency, wall street. look at those numbers. the dow took another nose dive today, falling 660 points, its biggest percentage drop since 2013. that's after a roller coaster december. it's worse since the great depression. on just the second trading day of the month, president trump tweeted that he is a tariff man, receiving to completely misunderstand the fact that a tariff is a tax on imports, one that raises prices for, you guessed it, consumers. and the dow dropped nearly 800 points. on christmas eve, the president tweeted an attack on the fed, and the dow lost 653 points. the biggest christmas eve decline in history. so, yeah, the market looks like it's no longer the bright spot it used to be for this president. all of this with no end in sight to the shutdown. as the president s

afternoon in closed session, but that turns out to have been a very pressient question from senator ron wyden there. "the washington post" reported that president trump has taken multiple meetings in person with russia's president vladimir putin in which the president however our president has ensured that there are no other u.s. officials present for those discussions, including at least one instance where the president seized the notes from his u.s. translator and ordered that translator to not discuss anything with anyone what he had heard at that trump putin meeting. "the washington post" reported on these unusual meetings a couple of weekends ago. they described meetings of this type between trump and putin in germany in hamburg, also in helsinki last year. but you may remember late last year right around the time michael cohen was pleading guilty to lying to congress about the trump tower moscow project and his communications with the kremlin, right around that time, just after thanksgiving, late november, the white house announced that president trump's next planned meeting with vladim

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. >> let's listen to ron wyden, senator wyden asking dni coates about that trump/putin meeting and why it seems that there's not more information about what was discussed between donald trump and vladimir putin. let's listen. >> according to press reports, donald trump met privately with vladimir putin and no one in the u.s. government has the full story about what was discussed. director haspel and director coates, would this put you in a disadvantaged position in terms of understanding russia's efforts to advance its agenda against the united states? >> senator, clearly, there is a sensitive issue and it's an issue that we ought to talk about this afternoon and i look forward to discussing that in a closed session. >> in a closed session. why can't he talk about it publicly? >> i think there's some concern about how they know what they know. and you know, from a political perspective, some of these intelligence chiefs are going to say things that the president may not want to hear, so they don't want the public to know what's going on here. but often, in the closed session, they're h

oregon senator ron wyden and a state representative further highlighted it emphasizing it left students with fewer privacy protections than public citizens when it comes to health records. the last thing sexual assault victims should have to think about is whether their own words should be used against them when they seek help. holmes, an administrator at the university of oregon, who encouraged sexual assault victims to take advantage of the university's counseling service in her interview with the governor january looked particularly untrustworthy after seeking private records from these kinds of sessions for use as opposition research to be used in the case of a lawsuit. and shelley care was fined $5,000 and forced to take ethics classes which investigated morerock's complaint and found that care had breached the student's confidentiality. a month later the university of oregon reached a settlement with the student paying her $800,000 while providing four years of free tuition, housing and student fees. one week after the settlement was reached, morelock reseened in an open letter --

democrats and republicans, including the consumer data protection act, sponsored by for -- senator ron wyden and the data care act sponsored by senator brian schatz, among others. that brings us to today's event and our distinguished panelists, who hold a wide variety of views on privacy, which they will happily share with us. left to right, we have brett swanson, visiting fellow at the american enterprise institute. we have sally greenberg, executive director at the national consumers league. theatkinson, resident at information technology and innovation foundation. his organization recently released their own proposal for privacy legislation. we have nicol turner-lee, a fellow at the center for technology innovation at workings -- brookings. each of them will speak in turn, then we will have constructive discussion, and hopefully we will have time for discussions. brett, you first. >> thank you. thank you for hosting us today on national privacy day, no less. that's amazing. i will give sort of a broad overview and may be some of the others can address some of the specifics. all successful

tell you and this is people don't report this enough one of my better friends in the saturday is ron wydenprivacy with gill grand we work together we disagree don't hit a each other we actually work together on things, the hatred you are seeing back-and-forth on internet really isn't real in washington it is worse on internet. >> reflects what is really going on great to see you. thank you so much. 's goals... all while helping you to and through retirement. can you help with these? we're more of the plan, invest and protect kind of help... voya. helping you to and through retirement. >> welcome back google turning a failing mall into a campus in california for the company hillary vaughn with details in los angeles, right there at new headquarters hello. reporter: hi. good morning google growing out of silicon valley expanding two two major u.s. cities following announcement will build a one-billion-dollar campus in the new york city by 2020 google also planning, a major move in here in heart of west l.a. instead of you biflgd a brand new campus from ground up google is breathing life into

so senators ron wyden and rand paul are interested in this issue. i'll go to the back again. the gentleman -- >> i'm from global network initiative. first, we haven't said a lot about when devices might be sending data back to other countries and we don't have anyprotection legally and i'm just wondering if there are any thoughts or thinking that your institutions are doing individually on that issue but the other one , thinking to the ladies question in terms of how we can protect ourselves, i'm wondering if you've heard about either public development or work going on in standards development processes to allow basically consumers to protect themselves. are there ways you could configure a wireless router which is the nexus between all your in-home devices and the rest of the world so even if the devices you buy art well-designed or have privacy built-in, the wireless router can protect you from them or if you're an individual walking around in the world and your interfacing especially with your devices with other devices, is there a way that you could activate on your devi