there's one piece of video that you got from it was an old rona barrett celebrity interview from the 1980s which had never aired. you got parts that had never aired, and he was remarkably similar in the way he talked about political issues, but he was also very frank about the sort of dynamic of what was making him decide to run or not to run. >> it's interesting, and maybe it's because it was so early in donald trump's political career, but rona barrett really got probably the best information out of donald trump than any interview that i had seen, us notwithstanding. [laughter] and you see, you see him going through -- he said -- rona barrett asks him, do you want to be president? he said, no, i love building. i'm an artist, i love building my buildings. and over time it really affects him. and he starts to take to this idea that, huh, maybe one day i could be president. particularly because people continuously ask him whether or not he wants to be the president of the united states. >> and he shows up in polls through the decades again and again not because he was running for anyt