now you have seen this interview, you heard ronaiah do the voice.ve te'o was not involved in the original hoax? >> i certainly think that if you buy, even half of what ronaiah is telling, and that requires a leap of faith, frankly, given how long he's been telling these lies and executing this hoax, you sort of have to assume that manti te'o, his involvement was minimal, insofar as at least ronaiah says it was manti who initiated the conversation by adding the lennay kekua character on facebook. other than that, it is tough to say that manti had any sort of active involvement. but that, again, requires you to believe both two -- you have to believe two people who both admitted to lying. >> what surprises you the most about the interview? >> well, certainly the fact that ronaiah claims that manti te'o dumped lennay kekua and actually told her he didn't ever want to talk to her again and that's what sparked ronaiah tuiasosopo to kill off the character. and that they had a conversation about this hours before she allegedly died. that throws a lot of do

phil says was behind ronaiah on line hoax on take oychlt ronaiah had a number of life experiences thatieled this young man in some very serious ways. here we have a young man that fell deeply romantically in love. >> did you say that. >> i asked him straight up. was this a romantic relationship with you. and he says yes. he said are you then therefore gay and he said well, when you put it that way, yes. and then he caught himself and said i am confused. >> i'm just calling to say good night. i love you. >>reporter: big question still remains. who is the lennay voice on the voice mail heard on katie. post reported it belonged to ronaiah cousin but heen

so, he had ronaiah tuiasosopo record, again, from his home.here's a different voice mail. >> i don't know who answered your phone. and i don't care. >> reporter: here's ronaiah tuiasosopo's version. >> i don't know who answered your phone and i don't care. >> reporter: while dr. phil said that all three of his experts confirmed that his voice matched the voice on the voice mails. we asked our own expert. >> from the three voice mails that have been released there really are no signs that i think te'o could have heard, to give away that he wasn't talking to a woman and he was talking to a man. >> reporter: watch as we compare the two voice samples side by side. >> i got here. i'm getting ready for my first session. just wanted to call you and keep you posted. >> i'm getting ready for my first session and i just wanted to call you and keep you posted. >> reporter: when te'o sat down with katie couric last week, he said that he was convinced that he was talking to a girl. ronaiah tuiasosopo said that he created the whole lennay character as an es

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for the past seven years he's been in a relationship not with jesus but with hawaiian ube prankster ronaiahasosopo >> yes, jon. that's exactly what i'm saying. the pope can't let that happen again. besides, jon, the clues were always there. all benedict had to do was look up. >> jon: look up what? no, look up. jon: oh! it can't be. sam bee at the vatican, everybody. ( cheers and applause ) now, news of benedict's departure did come as a bit of a surprise. for the most part the pope played his resignation pretty close to the vestments >> this is a decision, this has always been a low-key pope >> jon: yes, yes. a low-key pope. as to the past wild man popes like pope awesome iii. can a brother get an ava maria up in the basilica. party pope is in god's house. actually, this does raise an interesting question. who might the next pope be? one analyst suggests history could be our guide. >> the church, whennity lects popes, has a history of going long pope short pope long pope short pope. >> jon: you are talking length of service, yes? for more, john oliver is going to be there. our senior cathol

phil aired the first of a two-part interview with ronaiah tuiasosopo, better known as the man behindo girlfriend hoax. it was good. if you haven't been following this story, this guy pretended to be a woman online and then engaged in a multi-year relationship with the notre dame football player. anyway, he sat down with dr. phil today and i have to say, from what i could tell, manti te'o's girlfriend seems like a very nice guy. [ laughter ] i look forward to seeing him on next season's "celebrity apprentice." [ laughter ] but if you didn't already, you should definitely watch this. dr. phil was relentless. he insists that the woman's voice that manti would hear was his. but they have voicemails and there's no way it was him. >> much of this relationship you had with manti was on the phone. >> right. >> you can speak with that voice. >> correct. >> let me hear that voice. >> i can't. >> give me a little of the voice. >> i'm sorry, it's really awkward and uncomfortable. >> jimmy: you know what? i get uncomfortable having lady sex talk with dr. phil as well. very understandable. they sa

ronaiah does his girl voice. >> i love you so much, hon.reams. >> was he really the person on the phone with manti? >> barbara walters' chickenpox. >> even death can result. >> will the tv legend ever return to work? >>> then, "e.t." breaks two super bowl stories. sandra bullock's surprise plan for sunday. and

ronaiah tuiasosopo is opening up about the relationship he had with te'o. abc's linsey davis has the details. >> reporter: in an exclusive interview with dr. phil, ronaiah tuiasosopo, the confessed mastermind behind the manti te'o girlfriend hoax, refused to re-create the female voice. >> i love you so much. >> i can't, even if i tried. there was a whole lot that went into pushing me to do something like that, to go that extreme. even if i try, it doesn't come out right. >> reporter: dr. phil keeps pushing. saying that he had the voice mails analyzed. >> the chance that you are the person on that voice mail is like 1 in 10 million. >> i've never done it in front of people. i was in a dark room. i just don't want to do it with all these cameras. >> reporter: but no topic seems off-limits. from his sexuality. >> i would say yeah, i'm gay. but honestly, i'm so confused. i'm so lost. i'm just finding me. >> reporter: to what te'o really knew. >> he had no idea. >> reporter: ronaiah tuiasosopo explains how it all began. te'o, friending a not knowing tuiasosopo w

. >> me, ronaiah, it hurt me, it was like a brick, i was like, whoa, i've given so much into this, and i realized that i poured so much into lennay, i, myself, wasn't getting nothing. and i was crying that morning, i was hurt, emotionally, all kinds of things took over. and so right then and there, i made the decision i can't do this lennay thing anymore. >> when he asked why he did it, he said the hoax had roots in sexual abuse he endured as a child. >>> new developments in a 17-year-old murder case. the grand jury voted to indict jon benet ramsey's parents. that's a headline out from a boulder, colorado, newspaper. the 6-year-old was found murdered back in 1996. nearly three years later according to the newspaper, a grand jury wanted to indict jon benet's parents john and patsy ramsey. but the district attorney at the time didn't sign the indictment claiming there was not enough evidence. i spoke with hln's nancy grace about this. >> i think it's a huge big deal. i think it's a headline, a bombshell. the fact that the grand jury voted that jon benet's parents were liable for her deat

ronaiah tiusasosopo tells tv's dr. phil, he knew the hoax was cruel but says he actually developed feelings for the football player. >> i grew feelings, i grew emotions, that i sooner or later couldn't control anymore. i tried every other way to end this. i tried this lie and this lie and this lie. but nothing would work. >> tiuasasosopo says te'o had no part in the scam and said he didn't carry out the hoax for any personal gain. he said he eventually confessed to te'o because he could no longer maintain the lie. >>> she had little to say since the lip-syncing scandal broke back on inauguration day but today beyonce was back in the spotlight and cbs news reporter teresa garcia says, came with a loud defense. >> reporter: at the start of her news conference beyonce got right to the point. ♪ [ music ]♪ >> reporter: her surprise performance was clearly intended to silence critics following her performance of the national anthem at president obama's inauguration. beyonce admits she sang along with a prerecorded track. >>

ronaiah tuiasosopo told dr. in love. >> the pain, the sorrow, that was all real. >> reporter: he first killed off the girlfriend character, then in her voice extended the misery. >> why call back and say she's not dead? >> i felt like even if we ended this and moved on with our lives and this wasn't brought back up and the truth wasn't, you know, known, that we wouldn't truly be moving on. >> reporter: he keeps using the word "we" because he, tuiasosopo, acknowledging that he is gay, that he had fallen in love with te'o and he needed to end it so he could get on with his life. he said he was sorry. >> i hurt every day for the decisions i've made. >> reporter: but told mcgraw much of his sorrow is for himself. >> the me, ronaiah, i was hurting. it hit me like a brick wall. i poured so much into lennay that i, myself, was getting nothing. >> reporter: mcgraw didn't buy his whole story. for example, that it was only tuiasosopo's voice as lennay. >> i love you so much, hon. sweet dreams. >> he had the voice tested.

ronaiah tuiasosopo telling dr.w the hoax was cruel but he developed feelings for the notre dame football player. >> i grew feelings, i grew emotions that sooner or later i couldn't control anymore. i tried every other way to end this. i tried this lie and this lie and this lie but nothing would work. >> it's a strange tale. he says he didn't carry out the hoax for any personal gain. he said he eventually confessed to te'o because he could no longer maintain that charade. >>> another famous sight in the big easy, the french quarter, famous writer who may have enjoyed a cocktail or two on balcony, that story coming up next. >>> live shot for you in new orleans. looking good as we've got partly cloudy skies there. the storms have moved out and nice weather coming our way for the super bowl. partly cloudy, 63 degrees. >>> getting ready for r sunday. let's take a look outside. if you're heading to work this morning, this is what it looks like, pretty quiet on the bay area bridges, golden gate bridge and san mateo moving

. >> ronaiah tuiasosopo told tr phil it was actually him.m to do lennay's voice to prove it was him. he agreed to do it but only behind a privacy screen. >> hey, babe. i'm just calling to say good night and i love you. i know you're probably doing homework or with the boys or grubbing but i just want to say i love you and good night. >> dr. phil asked him to do the voice again, this time leaving a voice mail from his home phone while a producer from the show watched. >> hey, babe. i'm just calling to say good night. i love you. i know that you're probably doing homework with the boys or grubbing, fatty. i just wanted to say i love you and good night and i'll be okay. i'll be okay tonight. i'll do my best. um, yeah. >> the three voice analysts said that tuiasosopo's voice matched the one. he also said there was no malice in pretending to be te'o's girlfriend and also says that he fell in love. listen to how invested he was in this relationship. >> for me, ronaiah, i was hurting. it hurt me. like it hit me like a brick wall. it was like, whoa,

in an interview on the doctor phil's show, ronaiah tuiasosopo says the although making up lennay kekua, is still provided benefits for manti te'o. >> every interview that he has released and whenever he would reflect on heard he said nothing but things about how her heart and her character had a major impact on him, though it was deceptive it was a lot of positive that came out of it. >> to date on dr. phil. the men behind the faked girlfriend you can see part 2 of that at 10:00 a.m.. >> when the reagans and the 49ers play in super bowl this weekend their coaches will make nfl history. we are just minutes away from hearing from both of them. we will carry that for you live. melisa raney has more on the story. >> there will be a lot of fans to watch the san francisco forty-niners a battle of the baltimore ravens and super bowl 47. some will just tune in justice the beyonce perform at the halftime show. >> there is another reason why this year's game is one that the fans will not want to miss. this is the first time that to sibling coaches will compete in the nfl contest. jim harbaugh to

. >> jimmy: i want to talk about this ronaiah tuiasosopo. >> that's pretty good.hat an interview this was. i mean, you really -- it was like "csi" dr. phil. you ran him through the ringer. you had fbi experts. how do you even get fbi experts to -- voice analysis of his voice. >> well, people were really curious about this, and i thought this young man deserves somebody to truly do an in-depth interview and get to the answers, because i read everything in the media, and everybody came to one conclusion, and i didn't feel like they really did their homework. and they came to the wrong conclusion. and so we kept digging and digging and digging until we finally got a research design that gave, i thought, a fair reading of this and got to the right conclusion. >> jimmy: it seemed like you were heading to the wrong conclusion also because it seemed like you did not believe when he said it was my voice, i was the one playing on the woman with a telephone. >> you sit down with a confessed liar that has perpetrated a multi-layered scam across an extended layer of time, you

. >> ronaiah, the self-proclaimed master mind of the fake girlfriend hoax telling dr.l why he decided to kill off the persona he created. tuiasosopo said he was in love with te'o and ended the relationship out of revenge when he said he was in contact with other women over skype. >> me, i was hurting, it hurt me. like it hit me like a brick wall. i was like, whoa. you know, i've given so much into this. and i realized right then in that moment that i poured so much into it that i, myself, wasn't getting nothing and look what i was left with. i made the decision i can't do this thing anymore. >> that started a national scandal. the well-publicized story of the tragic death of te'o's girlfriend was revealed as a hoax by the sports website deadspin. >> it's important to remember this is a compulsive liar who pretended to be another person for several years. that he would suddenly open up and become honest with dr. phil, i'm not sure how much we can trust out of his mouth. >> he backed up his claim about his role in the hoax. >> truthfully, honestly, he had no involvement.

another big interview she has coming up, a new confession that they say is going to blow manti and ronaiah tuiasosopo and even lance armstrong out of the water. >> next week on "katie," parking lot security guard guillermo in his first televised interview since the scandal. >> you thought you had a friendship with a real chihuahua. >> that is correct, ms. katie couric. >> but was it a real chihuahua? >> no, it was a mix. of a chihuahua and a poodle. >> so it was a chi-poodle. >> it was. it was a chi-poodle. >> and later, the question everyone wants answered. >> demeanor, are you gay? >> no. no. no. >> exclusive on "katie." >> jimmy: in florida -- and i know i shouldn't be surprised by anything that happens in florida anymore, but by this i am. a 10-year-old girl, her name is emma, submitted a school science project that involved three drug-sniffing dogs and an ounce of real cocaine. this sounds less like a science project and more like a raid on charlie sheen's bungalow on south beach. but it was a real project. her dad is a police detective, so he helped her get cocaine, i guess. the poin

. >>> ronaiah tuiasosopo. >> tuiasosopo. >> tuiasosoronaiah tuiasosopo. >> tuiasosopo. >> ronaiah tuiasosoposopo. >> tuiasosopo. >> tuiasosopo. >> sources say dr. phil and -- what's his name. >> hilarious. >>> okay. welcome back to "morning joe." live look at rockefeller plaza, the ice skating rink. joining us now "fortune" magazine's assistant managing editor lee gallagher and in washington columnist for "the washington post" and msnbc policy analyst ezra klein. good to have you both on hour show this hour. someone else is here, too. >> that's right, andrea's here. >> andrea is here. this is a big day. >> i never met him. >> you're going to. >> what do we have going on here, mika? >> i have absolutely no idea. >> oh, just stop. >> no, we've got the jobs numbers coming up in about seven minutes. i guess give us an expect of what we can expect. joe pointed out at the top of the show that the jobs council -- >> lost their jobs. >> there's an irony to that. >> irony, subtext, yes. >> i don't think we're the ones that are most worried about losing their own jobs but, you know, it was a pretty si

. >> me, ronaiah, i was hurting, it hit me like a brick wall. i was like, whoa.moment i realized i pored so much into lennay, and i was not getting nothing and made the decision i couldn't do it anymore. >> and then that started the tragic story of the girlfriend dying on the same day his grandmother died because looked into as a hoax. >> this is a compulsive liar that pretended to be another person for several years, that he would suddenly open up and become honest with dr. phil. i am not sure how much we can trust out of tuiasosopo's mouth. >> truthfully, honestly, he had no involvement. >> the heisman trophy runner-up admitted on the katie curic show he lied, but after he realized he was a victim of deception. >> that was real. the pain and the sorrow, that was all real. >> some questions remain that it was tuiasosopo's voice. >> i know you are probably doing homework or with the boys, and i do want to say tkpgood night. >> dr. phil asked him to speak in the voice, and that part is for the next segment. >>> you know, steven tyler is the lead singer of arrow do