he did his ronald reagan imitating ritual during ronald reagan. well, yes, tear down the wall. that's what i have been folks. i'll tell you, everybody in the foreign policy community tried to get that line out. peter robinson did a brilliant draft. we fought like for it. we went through a lot of provisions and we came out a bunch of times and got it back in. there is an ugly memo about me in the nsc files. we've had, what, five conversations. et cetera. the wonderful part about it was this a poor draft of larry and regan worked it over as he would and it was very much him. in the final analysis, that was the major of ronald reagan. everybody wanted it up. he said, no way. i'll tell you, i wrote this in the wall street journal, if anybody is interested, four little words. it tells the story of the morning of the speech. we got a cable from the state department. tom griscom gave it to me, the director of communications. i said, tom, is that what i think it? is he said, yes. don't pay any attention to it. the wall is going to be there another 20 years. everybody had brought it to

he did is ronald reagan imitating doing ronald reagan. [laughter] will yes, tear down the wall. that is how it happened folks. i will tell you everybody in the foreign policy committee try to get that line out. we thought like hell for it. we went through a lot of revisions that came out a bunch of times and we got it back in. >> it was the best moment. >> is an ugly memo about me in the file to saying we have had five impassioned conversations he refuses to step back et cetera. but the wonderful part about it, and reagan worked it over as he would it was very much him. in the final analysis that was the nature of ronald reagan. everyone wanted out hotel i wrote this in the wall street journal if anyone is interested for little words it tells the story the morning of the speech got a cable from the state department, tom and risk and gave it to me as director of communication. it's a tom is out i think it is? said yes to pay any attention to its another last-minute plea the walls going to be their last another 20 years. everyone brought it to regulars ultimately his decision. as

ronald reagan came into office, said, no, we're going to stop. neil said, you're in the big leagues now, we're gonna teach you a few lessons. he went on the air and everything changed. ronald reagan, soon, bill sapphire came up with the perfect label for him and branding. it also helped the media assimilate. yes, that's. right reagan had this video magic. this trans he could put people in. so, he was the great communicator. he was quoting, larry, again when this bill came up. the reason they were doing it is because, i have a 20 book question on this. we're going to the fetus. reagan did what he had done prior, with the economic speeches. and by the way, marty anderson to the audit that was based on. so, grateful to him for bringing it up. but i must tell you, reagan wrote the speeches. they were his. we were talking about this forever. it's the same thing. he called up pete handford in the 70s and said pete, have you seen this camp roth tax bill? so, they did a script together. he insisted on it. nobody thought reagan was going to run for presid

rhys hoskins scoring ronald acuna.ohn: this is a great at-bat, but it's also a pitch he could handle. he wasn't catching up to fastballs. he gave him a breaking ball and put it in play firmly. he hit it hard enough to where it gets by hoskins on in between hop. acuna easily scores the first run of the game. >> john: really bad legs there, going to score. a run on contact. matt olson delivers. first two games of this division series. first and third, two gong. >> john: i'm sure that pitch was supposed to bounce, but he had fed olson fastballs all game, gave him the one pitch he could get the barrel the bat down to and make contact, scored a run. >> joe: 50 pitches over the first five, 20 here in the sixth. he takes back-to-back heaters. >> john: here's the pitch i'm talking about. that ball backed up, it didn't turn the corner, it gave olson the ability to get to the barrel the bat to make that contact. it was really the only pitch all night where he has not made the pitch. going to ask him if the delay will cause him t

two books, as 1600 page set of books on the history of ronald reagan. "the age of reagan", the conservative counterrevolution 1980-1989 is a letter of nine is a latter of the two. the former greatness, the former on-site "the age of reagan" the fall of liberal order 1964-1980. just some of the eight books by steven hayward and were talking about all of them on "in depth" this morning if you want to join the conversation. the phone lines as usual if you're in the easterner central time zone 202-748-8200. if you're in a mount hor pacific time zone, 202-748-2001. 202-748-2001. you can also send us a textbook that number 202-748-8903. if we do include your name and where you're from. also on twitter it's at booktv. steven hayward will be with us until two p.m. eastern joining as throughout this entire conversation of "in depth." want to talk about ronald reagan and his relationship with mikhail gorbachev to gorbachev died august the 30th just last week. what was the relationship like when they were both in office and later? >> guest: that's an extraordinary

i'm a big ronald reagan fan. and so once up there, my book is about ronald reagan and what i think america needs new ronald reagan. i don't know who it but i think this would crazy things in the moment you have a new ronald reagan i move from the united i move from germany to the united states. reiner seidelman has written 26 books, the most recent is the power of capitalism. a journey through recent history across continents. thank you for joining us on c-span's book tv. good evening, everyone, and welcome to politics and prose. i'm brad graham, the co-owner of the store, along with my wife, lissa muscatine. and we're very excited to have with us this evening one of my favorite journalists, the ever entertaining mark leibovich, who's to talk about his revealing amuse and ultimately quite alarmed my new book, thank you for your service to donald trump's washington and the price of submission. mark has enjoyed a distinguished career in journalism with with some of the nation's best newspapers and publi

new work, she examines why the republican party in 1990s shifted from the kind of conservatism that ronald reagan represented in the previous decade that was optimistic and popular to a more pessimistic, angrier, even revolutionary conservativism. with a period of intensifying partisan conflict and a new fury took hold on the right when republicans grew less tolerant of dissension in the ranks and began viewing democrats not as opponents but as enemies. what accounted for this shift? nicole cites a number of factors she will get into in a minute, but understanding why it happened is important because it remains very relevant today. nicole explains what set republicans on a course that led eventually to the election of donald trump and the radicalization of the right. we are in for a very informative discussion with nicole in conversation with one of the most astute political analysts in washington today, journalist and author eugene joseph dionne jr.. in addition to writing and always interesting column for the washington post, ej is a senior fellow at the brookings institution and teaches

i'm a big ronald reagan fan. and so once up there, my book is about ronald reagan and what i think america needs new ronald reagan. i don't know who it but i think this would crazy things in the moment you have a new ronald reagan i move from the united i move from germany to the united states. reiner seidelman has written 26 books, the most recent is the power of capitalism.

so watch out for my book about ronald reagan. i think reagan needs new ronald reagan. i do know who it is but i think this would be crazy come in the moment given new ronald reagan i moved from germany to the united states. >> host: rainer zitelmann has written 26 books. the most recent is "the power of capitalism: a journey through recent history across five continents." thank you for joining us on c-span's booktv trinity thank tk you very much. i appreciate it. >> if you are enjoying booktv then sign up for our newsletter using the qr code on the screen. to receive the schedule of upcoming programs come author discussions, book festivals and more.

what kind of conservative is ronald reagan? >> what that means is he was really not that conservative and a couple of ways. remember it reagan very fond of quoting tom payne was a radical sympathizer of the french revolution. if you love quote pain then we have it in our power to make the world over again. i member george will the times f is four years ago now any time anywhere that is nonsense but that's most unconservative thing you could possibly think. people sets part of reagan's optimism. there is a certain truth to that. on his headstone where he is married at the luncheon. at that lot i know in my heart man is good. ryan was disposed by his character to look at the good side of human spree that certainly lives leaves out the christian doctrine of sin. which other keep in the forefront of their mind. as wright reagan wasn't conservative libertarian sympathies of course in traditional sympathies. but he was his own special thing. >> when did ronald reagan become that? >> that is an interesting question. probably starting

now not richard vigero but pat buchanan, saying why are ronald reagan and george h.w. bush denouncing this guy, we need to feel out why he is so appealing and win his voters, part of buchanan's campaign in 1992 is about the duke vote. >> i -- the book does not focus on donald trump. however he makes an appearance at the end. it is wonderful passage it pulls the book together. there was a debate at reagan library in simi valley in 2015. every candidate on the stage were appeal tote reagan legacy excepting for donald trump. and as you write president trump understood something that the debate moderates and other candidates did not, the -- age of o reagan was over, it was over for a long time, you conclude the book with following two paragraphs. then you should get the whole book to read. few people in the reagan library in. fall of 2015, including donald trump, new that trump would be president two years later here, had risen quickly to top of polls and stayed there. and the trump bubble, would soon burst. they didn't realize that the ground had already shifted, had been

and he's saying why ronald reagan and george h.w. bush denouncing this guy, we need to be figuring out why he's so appealing not a hard puzzle. and when his voters. and so part of pat buchanan's in 1992 is about the duke vote just as a previous candidate had looked at the wallace vote. and so i'm the book doesn't not focus on donald trump. however he makes an appearance the end and a it's a wonderful passage because it really pulls the book together and there was a debate at the reagan library in simi valley. 2015, and every candidate the stage basically appealed to the reagan legacy except for donald trump. and as you write, trump understood something. the debate moderators and other candidates did not. the age of reagan was over. it had been over for a long time, and conclude the book with the following two paragraphs and i'll just close on this and then you should get the whole book to read. that came before a few people in. the reagan library in the fall of 2015, including trump, believe trump would president two years later. yes

john: ronald reagan is the subject of two books. a 1600 page set of books on the history of ronald reagan, the age of reagan, the conservative counterrevolution, the former greatness -- the age of reagan, the fall of the liberal order. these are just some of the books by steven hayward and we are talking about them on in-depth, if you want to join the conversation. you can also send us a text. if you do, please include your name and where you are from. on twitter, it is at the tv. steven hayward will be with us throughout this conversation of in-depth. i want to talk about ronald reagan and his relationship with or which off. gorbachev died just last week. what was the relationship like, when they were both in office and later? steven: that is an extraordinary story. initially, they were inclined not to like each other. reagan wrote in his diary, people tell me he is a different kind of leader. but he hoped to sit down with a soviet leader and see if they could make a breakthrough. gorbachev turned out to be that person, but not ini

i think a lot of it had to do with knowing ronald reagan very briefly.audible] i'd say wait ati minute. you are excited about ferraro until he met ronald reagan. >> just to back up as a summer of 1984 youai will remember it well. the republican national convention is being on. the democrats are first, party out of power. i was so enthralled. there she is just like the women here raise me in italian catholic woman preaches a congressman from queens, waltere mondale the democratic nominee tapped her she's going to give a primetime speech and accept that nomination of the first woman ever on a major party ticket. and i listened to her. thought she was a great messenger. but that meston did not grant me the way president reagan's did group to me. h peace through strength, calling out communism. i think he had a very joyful way of communicating free market capitalism of communicating why it's important to invest in military strength. why it is important going back to an honest day's wage for an honest days work for. >> are attracted his message or you were at

much of that was a result of the values and voice of the 40th president, ronald reagan. when i heard ronald reagan's vision for the country -- strong national defense, limited government, strong national values, i heard the ideals i was raised to believe. i joined the reagan revolution. i met president in 1988 when i was close to the age of most of the people in this room. i was a candidate for congress, standing with my bride. the president was ending eight years of an extraordinary administration that transformed the american economy and the world. i had been inspired to become a republican because of ronald reagan and was in line for the photo op. i turned to my wife karen, who has not changed a bit in 37 years, and i said our campaign team said that was supposed to mention our campaign, about how we needed a bridge or something, or a river to go with a bridge, something you ask the president for. and i said, i am going to tell my grandkids about this meeting, and karen said, talk from your heart. i walked into the blue room and set down and i looked into ronald reaga

ronald reagan flies and on air force one.he hatch people very cleverly arrange for a huge singing group that closely resembled the mormon tabernacle choir but wasn't exactly. it included the osmond family. in the cow palace insult lake city. reagan is on the stage sitting next to orrin hatch, and the singing group and the osmond family sing an emotional, passionate version of "battle hymn of the republic." the camera slowly zoomed in on the face of ronald reagan, who looked moved and shocked and spellbound by the way they were singing. the singers reached the crescendo and the cameras zoomed in on reagan's face and a tear formed in his eye and slowly rolled down his cheek. watching at home, catch's opponent said -- hatch's opponent said that is it, i lost. and he did. the image of reagan than holding up hatch's hand and that emotional moment carried hatch into all of his remaining 42 years, or the remainder of his 42 years in office. he never really had a serious reelection threat after that. orrin hatch had the luxury of a v

kind of conservatives ronald reagan?there's a whole bureaucratic conservative. that means he was not that conservative in a couple of ways. reagan was fond of quoting tom payne, the radical supervisor of the french revolution and loved saying we have an hour power to make again four years ago now george said anytime anywhere it's nonsense, most unconservative thing. people say it's reagan's optimism and creative spirit but on his headstone where he's fair at the reagan library, i think the word is i know in my heart man is good. reagan was disposed by character to look at the side of humans that's good t but that leaves ot sin which other conservatives keep at the forefront of the mine, especially the design of an institution and so forth, he has libertarian sympathy and traditional sympathy but his own special thingng. >> when did ronald reagan become conservatives. >> probably starting may be in the 40s when he adopted liberal anti-communism, a german support and 48, democrat action but in the 50s especially touring th

named after somebody was shot in an assassination attempt against ronald reagan.ut even after that came to the assault man was strongly supportive of it. comes out of the president said yes we should have the assault weapons ban he runs up against the opposition of the nra. >> i think pat buchanan could suit donald trump for plagiarism. you go to the 1992 campaign had forgotten at the end of the campaign pat buchanan went to the border with mexico talk about the buchanan campaign third and kind of populism on economics. they trade with these very, very right wing positions on culture, race and immigration that was almost a perfect templates. it's hard to figure out where donald trump campaign was actually different from pat buchanan street. >> that is exactly right too. >> which is why he is on the cover. pat buchanan changes on immigrationwa a very short perid of time. 1984 he was talking about undocumented immigrants. and how they paidth payroll taxs they paid a sale taxes per their good taxpaying citizens were not on the where pharaoh wrote basically his way he

it's now not richard vigorie and saying why are ronald reagan and george d. w. bush denouncing this guy? we need to figure out why he's so appealing. not a hard thing. and win his voters and part of the campaign is about the duke vote just as previous candidates have looked at wallace vote. >> the bookk does not focus on donald trump and it's a wonderful passage and pulls the book together and there was a debate at the reagan library in the valley in 2015, and every candidate on the stage would basically appeal to the reagan legacy except for donald trump. as you write, trump understood something the debate model and other candidates did not. the age of reagan was over. it had been over for a long time. and you conclude with the following two paragraphs and i'll read this part. seeing people in the reagan library in the fall of 2015 including donald trump maybe trump would be president two years later. yes, he had risen quickly and the candidates and that's a first. they didn't realize that the ground had already shifted, had been shifting for a quarter century

work, she examines why the republican party in the 1990s shifted from kind of conservativism that ronald reagan had represented >> the previous decade, conservativism that was optimistic and popular, to a more pessimistic, angrier, even revolutionary conservativism. it was a period, nicole writes, of intensifying conflict when a new fury took hold on the right and republicans grew less tolerant of dissension in the ranks and viewing democrats not as opponents, but as enemies. what accounted for this shift? well, nicole cites a number of factors she'll get into in a few minutes. why it happened is important as it remains relevant today. as nicole explains, to led to eventually the election of donald trump and to the radicalization of the right. now, we're in for a very informative discussion with nicole who will be in conversation with one of the most political and astute analyst ins washington today, journalist and author, dj is a long time friend of p & p and in addition to writing an interesting column for "the washington post," ej is a fellow at brookings institution and teaches at ge

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but even ronald reagan. -- not even ronald reagan.aid we have a constant flow of newcomers to our country and when we close a door, we will be diminishing our preeminence in the world. don't take it from me. go to google. look at president reagan's last speech as president of the united states. this is the last speech i will make us president of the u.s., and i want to communicate a message to the country that i love, and go from there. >> [indiscernible] -- protest about the arrest of a woman two weeks ago. that was she was killed in police custody has grown far more than the capital. and now there's an international outcry about it. firstly, i want to ask you about women in iran burning their mandatory job. what do you think about women in iran protesting the mandatory job? -- hijab? and secondly, with all the calls growing for the downfall of the islamic republic. do you think if in fact regime falls in iran washington, d.c. will be ready for them? >> well, let me just say that we're all in awe of the courage of the women of iran c

host: joining us now is ronald hansen who is a national news reporter to talk about the arizona senate debate. thanks for joining us. guest: nice to be with you. host: set the stage as far as tonight's debate and relate it to larger issues in this rate for arizona's senate seat. guest: this is arizona having a senate race and we've been doing it since 2016 stop this is to complete the final -- to start a new term in 2020. he is facing a first-time candidate the republicans in this race has been about masters trying to make the sick as -- a case against mark kelly not being the independent he claims to be. mark kelly is trying to make the case that he promised to be an independent voice for arizona. host: as far as the race itself, where to the two stand? >> at this point, mark kelly is the favorite. he is wildly popular in arizona and is in good standing with independent voters which is a critical block in arizona. there are quite a few of them. he is in the favorite heading into the debate and lake masters wants a five way republican primary and he is someone who has the horseman of p

listen to ronald reagan. when i quote ronald reagan and my republican colleagues he doesn't get any applause. can you imagine that, not even ronald reagan who has said america is preeminent in the world because we have a constant flow of newcomers to our country. and when we close the door we will be diminishing our preeminence in the world. don't take itfrom me. go to google, look up president reagan's last speech as president of the united states . this is the last speech i will make as president of the united states and i want to communicate a message to a country i love and go from there . >>. [inaudible] will you ask is a whole are of the women ran out in terms of personal. the status of the, the murder as we've seen. it is of her death, of his brave woman is heartbreaking. but it has a response. his anguish is his response can be helpful in terms of freedom of which is. anyone who hasn't spoken out support will and courage have come forward. at least two machines and governments in we will see what happ

i hone that skill, eight dollars an hour job at the ronald reagan's upholsterer. i credit frank with giving my great opportunity to get back into polling after had a law f degree at dawn i had something else that are brought to theth table to the men which was they all talk like pollsters. they all talk like people of data. what did the data mean? even over the decades of having my own polling company i woulde say to my team okay that's the data. when you are weighting the analysis stop every twos paragraphs and actress elsa what?? what does it mean? hockley communicated to people? what are telling us? argued a great example. i saw an race you are the campaign manager i saw early on in 1997 i believe it was or even 1997 or so, this ridiculous polling question that asked which of the following would you vote for a president? al gore or george w. bush?sh the summer of 1997 is closer to 1996 election than the 2000 election. how do you know who the00 candidates are going to be? the answers at the time of 48% and 47%. of course everybody goes on tv and says oh my god i

you were excited about geraldine ferraro until you met ronald reagan. "cavuto coast to coast" summer of 1983, the republican and democratic national conventions are going on, democrats were the first party out of power and i was enthralled with geraldine far aro, she was a congresswoman from queens, walter mondale tapped her and she was going to get her primetime speech and accept that nomination, first on a major party ticket and i listened to her and she was a great messenger but it didn't grip me the way president reagan's did. pulling out communism, had a very joyful way of communicating free-market capitalism, why it is important to invest in military strength. going back to an honest day's wage. >> you are attracted to his message or the fact that you have his instincts. "cavuto coast to coast" the election cycle, i won't say he won every state, to walter mondale's district of columbia. at that time republican presidential candidates were competitive, here is ronald reagan in new jersey, september of 1984, cocaptain of the field hockey team, i had

your audience, the name of a book that was published by an advisor in the first administration of ronald reagan had to do with the fact that at the time, 80 americans were being held hostage in iran by the new regime that had taken over. there was concern that president jimmy carter, if his administration had secured release of those hostages, it would have given him just enough edge to win that election of 1980. at the time, his administration in areas of finance but the people running the campaign for ronald reagan which was george herbert walker bush and william casey later became head of the cia negotiated a secret agreement with the new revolutionary regime under the ayatollah ho maney in iran -- host: do you want to bring us up to the midterms of this year? caller: this shows how elections can be manipulated. guest: i can name october surprises before the term became common. lyndon johnson's bombing hauled to north vietnam announced on national tv without much prior buildup. it was right before the november election which helped get hubert humphrey into a near tie back in 1968 step

i was not registered to vote i missed voting for ronald reagan by two and a half months. that's right because you're born in january 20th, and that's right being able to vote for him. i was still 17 for his re-election. you're absolutely right the first words in my entire book. here's the deal donna, you know, by every imaginable metric. i should have been a democrat and liberal and a feminist and probably a man hater too. my father left the men in my life my uncles my cousins. they expanded family members all these great male role models in my life who stepped in and and stepped up for me. they pretty much were all members of the private trades carpenters and welders and iron workers plumbers and who you know graduated high school with their skill certificate and their high school diploma went to work right away and have had those jobs for decades being able to support themselves and their families the most wonderful people so, you know, they tend toward the democratic party irish and italian catholics at that time. i think, you know not to over generalize. they absolute

bush doesn't find what's called -- and up in 1991 that ronald reagan reluctantly advanced affirmativeuring his presidency but it's george h.w. w bush who really takes it on the chin for advancing those policies or compromisingng pragmatism reagan part of his appeal, pragmatism was as heresy. it's those ideas george w. bush was a heretic and made it easier for buchanan to run in 1992. you may have that in 1988, he wrote fraud campaign in spring of 1987 part of the reagan administration and realizes quickly will be the sacrificial lamb for the new right and robinson takes the roleag and waits one more year and once he runs against bush instead of reagan, the same politics take hold and gain more traction than they would have an 88. >> another thing i have forgotten and particularly today because joe biden gave his speech on for the assault weapons ban. ... brady named after somebody who was shot in an assassination but even after that and went to the assault weapons, reagan was not only opposed, comes out with the other former presidents. he comes out with other presidents and says we s

like ronald reagan. ronald reagan came in to defeat communism. the soviet union -- russia is the most powerful country when it comes to arsenal. ronald reagan's listings to rest because of beliefs. he was the greatest president of the 20th century, hands down. host: what would you like our guest to address? caller: guest: i'm, it is great that people have opinions -- it is great that people have opinions about the past president. whether you live ronald reagan, or jimmy carter, whoever it may be, one of the things that is important to go back to is, debates help people inform people's decision on whether or not to vote for and if they are ready for presidency. caller: how do you expect women voters to vote this election season without having turning bankruptcy protection and student loans on s2598. there are many women voters who have predatory student loans and a there have been nothing done about it. we need these bills passed in order for us to move on. can you answer that question honestly and openly? guest: what i can say, thank you for that