ronald hampton, how do you see this? >> i think the first mistakes were made in the beginning when the chief wasn't open and honest and transparent with the information about what had happened, who was involved. when the report would be released. talking about the circumstances of it, there is a lot of information that key have given up noon i think would have given people some information to work with and then as information began to come out more information to handle that information given. >> woodruff: excuse me. go ahead. even if it's partial information you're saying get it out there. >> absolutely. i think so because they're looking for transparency. for example, if a crime happens in our community the first thing the people want -- police want to do is talk to the people that they are getting information to help solve the crime. then as information becomes available then they arm the community with it because it's things are happening. it didn't happen in this incident, i believe that that was one of the leading

one of the other things that police reformers say all the time like ronald hampton, who is the founder of the national black police association, points policeall we want is for to behave in poor black communities the way that they behave in white communities. understand it white communities at their job is to protect the community. why did i not understand that -- why do they not understand and poor black or latino communities? host: david from pennsylvania is calling on the republican line. david, you are on the air. caller: hello. professor, you set me up perfectly. -- whereon to you is where with angst, all this pressure and know-how for this community -- to make my point, right now every white cop has less ferguson and dropped their jobs, they were the very few policemen there. i heard two thirds of the population is african-american, and there are about three or four african-american policeman in the community. why don't the community itself apply for these jobs? it has been 50 years since you could discriminate against someone to apply for a job, and then when they are not gettin

one of the other things that police reformers say all the time like ronald hampton, who is the foundere national black police association, points policeall we want is for to behave in poor black communities the way that they behave in white communities. understand it white communities at their job is to protect the community. why did i not understand that -- why do they not understand and poor black or latino communities? host: david from pennsylvania is calling on the republican line. david, you are on the air. caller: hello. professor, you set me up perfectly. -- whereon to you is where with angst, all this pressure and know-how for this community -- to make my point, right now every white cop has less ferguson and dropped their jobs, they were the very few policemen there. i heard two thirds of the population is african-american, and there are about three or four african-american policeman in the community. why don't the community itself apply for these jobs? it has been 50 years since you could discriminate against someone to apply for a job, and then when they are not getting hire

ronald kessler comes in fourth. it looks at the lives of u.s. presidents for information provided by their secret service agents. hampton within the kingdom of ice, a recount of the 1879 u.s. naval expedition to the north pole. you can watch his discussion on his book from his recent talk at politics and prose bookstore in washington d.c. this weekend. that is a list of nonfiction bestsellers according to the chicago tribune. >> booktv asks what i you reading this summer? >> before i answer your question i would like to give you background that for the last ten years i have concentrated most of my reading on the early constitutional history of our country and early presidents of our country and i suppose i studies that stuff 50 years ago or more but it is dud to go back to it. thomas jefferson, john adams, john quincy adams so let me tell you my main interest this summer will be a book with a long title. the great debate:edmund burke, thomas paine, and the birth of the right and left. the reason i am very interested in that is i have quoted edmund burke so much during my political career, never really studied his backgr